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Tinslinger
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Gear Jumping

Postby Tinslinger » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:24 pm



Ok, so this is my first Wing and I'm still getting used to it. I seem to jump out of gear more frequently than I should. It never happens in 1st or 5th, and seldom in 4th. But 2nd and 3rd like to test my shifting. How can I improve my shifting? I try to concentrate on it and making sure I get it well into gear, but so far I'm still jumping more than I would like.



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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Pam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:42 am

I haven't had an issue on my 06 with jumping gears. I really try to make my shifts deliberate. Does it jump to neutral or seem to jump out of gear then back in??? Does it happen under hard acceloration??? I have an 83 Yamaha Venture Royal that would jump in and out od second because of a soft washer in the transmition. Not to get you wound up or anythign but I am pretty sure I read some where that some of the wings (not sure what years) had an issue where the tranny, and the gears would slip. I see you have an 09 so I would expect that any tranny issues would have been resoved. I think I would try to be real deliberate with my shifting.

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Mike 545 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:14 am

The 09 should still be under warranty. Take the bike in and have the service department check the transmission; have them pull it apart. I am saying this, because the clock is ticking on your warranty.

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Bouvier1 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:35 am

I agree with Mike on this. Last time it happened to me was with a 1500 and it turned out to be the gear selector slightly worn.
If you are under warranty then get it done quickly or it will cost a fortune to repair.

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Tinslinger » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:53 am

This Wing has just under 4000 miles on it. Could it wear that quickly? Just wondering, because I'm pretty new at this.

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Bouvier1 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:11 am

It shouldn't do but I would say that the problem is definately the selector arm rather than human error. To continually 'miss gear' or 'jump out' should never happen on a relatively new bike (especially the wing). All I can suggest is that it has not been checked fully when put together. In the UK we would say it is a Monday morning bike i.e. put together sloppily as they are still getting over the previous drinking weekend. Even in the best companies it happens.

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby tfdeputydawg » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:00 am

This is a big topic on another forum! Called Ghost Shifting. If this is what you have, it will not improve. You will end up w/a trans failure :x
You need to get this documented ASAP if your still under warranty. If you have not purchased the extended warranty, do so immediately. Good source is DLP(Direct Line Parts) Find it here: http://www.directlineparts.com/product. ... 1120&str=4
Also please note:
If you have a heel/toe shifter installed, remove it before you take your bike to a dealer.
A heel/toe shifter is a non-approved part/modification and MAY result in a warranty claim being denied, if that part or mod can be "blamed" for the failure experienced on the bike.
While I am not an alarmist by nature, I have watched this topic evolve on that other forum for some time now. Although the number of bikes experiencing this "Ghost Shifting" seem relatively few, it does exist. So far Honda has not recognized this as a "problem" so, no recalls or campaigns!
There is a member there that has determined under cutting the gears prevents this failure mode w/the GoldWing transmission. He provides this service, as he is a Wing mechanic. Sad news is he is located in Florida. So, unless you live close or want to travel..........................

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby Mike 545 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:53 am

How universal is this problem? I am considering a 2012. Has this issue been reported for a 2012?

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Re: Gear Jumping

Postby tfdeputydawg » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:29 am

Mike 545 wrote:How universal is this problem? I am considering a 2012. Has this issue been reported for a 2012?

The percentage seems to be very small, unless you happen to be one experiencing the problem!
Haven't seen any on 2012's yet but, it seems almost everything under the "tupperware" is the same as earlier models!
I would definitely get the extended warranty!




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