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Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:27 am



Not being much more than a totally amatuer mechanic I've been a litlle nervous about doing any serious work on my gl1000. Don't want to screw up. Today however I'm all prepped for doing the timing belts, re-installing the rad, resetting the valves and checking the timing. I have a friend coming over to kind of supervise while I do the work myself. Really want to be able to do the repairs myself( have you seen the prices an hour a mechanic gets) as I'm on a limited budget.
Have a couple of ?'s tho.
1-When the cam pulley on the right side moves after removing the timing belts do I turn the pulley counter clockwise rather than clockwise to repositon it.
2-Don't forsee this happening but if the main shaft(where the 2 pulleys meet in the middle) turns am I hooped( don't know how I would ever get the timing for the cam pulleys ever set up again.
3-when reinstalling valve cover gaskets(new) do I / or should i be using gasket compound of some sort . The new gaskets look like rubber of some sort and would hate to ruin them by using the wrong compounds on them.
Maybe silly ?'s I know but they've been bugging me and am hoping some one here can help ease my (probably needless) worries.

4- Have read a lot about people using Seafoam in the gas to clean carbs. Have a ? tho about carbon build up in the cylinders, won't the seafoam break it up. These motors are 0 clearance ,what are the chances of damage if theres a lot of carbon.


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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:19 pm

1. Before you remove the timing belts, mark the cam pulleys against the outside so you know where they are supposed to be positioned.

2. You should NOT turn that center crank with the belts off, because you will bend valves. If it moves ever so slightly, make sure the "T" mark is showing in the timing window - that will tell you it is in the correct position.

3. No compound, gasket only.

4. Haven't heard of carbon building causing that much problem, but Seafoam can certainly help it, and it certainly won't hurt it.

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:04 am

Timing belts easy( thanks to the excellent directions from this forum), radiator not so easy to reinstall. Will make another attemt tonite. Pics to follow. :D
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Re: Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:45 am

Got one more ? re the timing belts. One of the belts is noticably tighter than the other. Is this going to create a problem with timing or am I needlessly worrying again. :?
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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:11 pm

The right timing belt will be noticibly tighter than the left because the right cam is under pressure from the valve springs. However...check, re-check and triple check all of the cam positions and timing positions before you attempt to turn the engine over (by hand). If you meet ANY resistance, stop, and check again.

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WA9FWT » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:35 pm

Hope I'm not to late here, just make sure when your done with the belts and replacing the radiator and fan assy. Make sure that the fan turns by hand and doesn't hit the radiator. That way when it kicks in you will not jump out of the seat like I did.Need I say any more.

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby lnfog » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:58 pm

WF9FWT,

Hi, do I take it you are a Ham Radio operator? I am KE6GRN. That comment about you jumping out of your seat had me on the floor in tears I was laughing so hard!

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WA9FWT » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:41 pm

lnfog wrote:WF9FWT,

Hi, do I take it you are a Ham Radio operator? I am KE6GRN. That comment about you jumping out of your seat had me on the floor in tears I was laughing so hard!

Michele

Yes you are correct, I am a active ham.In fact I just got done talking to a guy in Paris TX using that digital mode PSK31
Nice picture of you on QRZ.In the last few months I have ran into several Ham Radio ops on this trend.
I can't wait until we can get the bike out and ride.But that will be a month or two before that happens.Today the temp is up to
37 and is helping to melt all that snow we got the other day. 73

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:33 pm

I'm surprised at how many hams as well as pilots I have found are also Goldwing owners. There must be some connection!

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:30 pm

Some pics as promised.
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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WA9FWT » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:00 pm

gnarlyroad wrote:Some pics as promised.

Nice pictures, and sure looks like you got into it or just made a mess on the garage floor Ha Ha .Sure hope it works out for you, and I give you credit doing it your self and saving all the $$$ Labor. How did the old belts look ?

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:14 am

Thought about not changing them because they looked almost brand new. The PO however said he'd ordered new belts as they needed changing. As others in the forum have said , if you're not sure change em. :D
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Re: Todays the day!

Postby WA9FWT » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:49 am

gnarlyroad wrote:Thought about not changing them because they looked almost brand new. The PO however said he'd ordered new belts as they needed changing. As others in the forum have said , if you're not sure change em. :D

Well at least it gives you peace of mind that they are now new. The other thing is to make sure you don't have any air trapped
in the system when replaceing fluid.I had a problem there one time and thought I did it right.It did take some time too show up as running hot and I wondered why.Other words I ran about 10 miles and in town when I saw the gauge run very hot.It had never did this before.So off came the cap and I let it sit and idle, thats when I saw very small bubbles.Had to add very little and back on the road.All was well now..So just take your time!!

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Re: Todays the day!

Postby gnarlyroad » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:48 pm

While trying to remove valve covers discovered I couldn't do it without first removing the engine guards(the valve covers don't clear the valves). The lower engine guard is attached to a thru bolt for the bottom engine mount. While the top engine and motor guard are also the same frame bolt either side. Both motor mount bolts(top+bottom, same side) need to be removed to remove engine guard and thus get at the valves. Don't really want to remove motor.
So a coupe of ?'s. At this point I'm not sure what my ?'s are. Don't really know my options( limited I know). Any clues where to start. Her's some pics.
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