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83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:17 pm



Need a little help/Advice

I am considering an 83 Aspencade, that is all the info I have other than the guy says it needs a clutch and make me an offer. What would be a fair price with the info available?? Are the parts readily available and where do you get them? I am thinking the engine has to come out for this? Are any special tools needed?

I am considering this bike for my son so if the price is right and I can get it on the road for a good price I might try for it. The labor don't worry me as I have no time line.

Any info would be great

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:59 pm

My 2 cents worth.
1st.lets assume that the clutch is trashed and slips...would you really want a bike that has been abused so bad that someone trashed the clutch???
These things last forever unless it's driven hard and put up wet.

Maybe the bike has 250,000 miles on it and is just plane old worn out.I don't think the odo shows the 100k numbers

2nd...Is it possible the clutch is OK and the owner isn't aware of the hydraulic design.Remember that a leaking slave or air in the line and the clutch won't release right.

I'd be eyeballing it first before you decide.Kick the tires,bounce the shocks.(testing stuff for advanced age or abuse).

I believe the clutch is available and can be replaced without pulling the engine.
Ya might grab the lever and "feel" it.Does it have a normal stiff but firm pull all the way?

Ask him how how determined that the clutch is bad.
What's it worth????...Well,whatever the market will support.
I'd be looking at a fixer up for the $300-$1500 dollar range.....You know,condition and whatever might else be needed.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby britman » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:02 am

Yeah the engine does have to come out unless you take the whole back end of the bike off from the swing arm back . They didn't do some thing stupid like put the wrong oil in it was the 83 aspy hydraulic

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:41 pm

Thanks guys

I was looking for info and I was also wondering why he is so sure the clutch is shot. It is going to be a trip to the big city and do some tire kicking.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:27 pm

Goin to the big lights to check out that 83 aspy today. Spoke to the guy last night, He rode the bike until this spring when the clutch started to slip. He also volanteered that it seem the bike has trouble keeping fork seals, (worn bushings in the fork tubes??) and the speedo don't work. I am thinking there is a way more than the 80000 km advertised on this machine. In the pic it looks like a trailer hitch, so that would explain premature clutch wear. but fork seals and tubes ???. I have a friend who bought an 83 new and is having the clutch relaced because it was slipping.

we will see

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:45 pm

The more your finding out the cheaper it gets. :) Tires and shocks are expensive too.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby RoadRogue » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:34 pm

Its going to cost you $1000 to put tires,belts, fluids ,brakes and whatever other misc. bits need attention before you can even ride the bike. Keep that in mind when you haggle out a price.If it wont start I would walk away unless he only wants a couple hundred for it. 8-)
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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:38 am

Well we went and checked this bike out, It fired right up after the guy hooked his car to it, the new battery was stone dead, and would not accept a charge from a trickel charger, ( I have a way around that, because the charger wants a certain amount of charge in a battery before the charger will recegnise it, all you do is hook a good battery to the dead on and let the two get aquainted for a couple of hours, the charger from the good one dribbles over to the poor one and the charger will accept it) Also comes with a second battery, Shocks held air, Tires still have the little rubber knobs on them, In first gear the clutch would stall the engine. It is a mechanical clutch and may just need some adjustment, New timing belts, My son struck a deal of 750.00. Also came with a second trunk.

What is the best way to get this thing home as we are trailering it On the center stand and tied down, or on the suspension using tie downs to compress the suspension?????

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:48 am

Never never never trailer a bike on the center stand. That's a good way to crack/otherwise damage the frame. The bike should be tied down using the frame (NOT using the crash bars) with the suspension partially compressed.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:50 am

Thanks Admin.... I was pretty sure that the center stand was a bad thing because everything was solid, That is what the suspension is for it will simulate rolling down the road. Now we have to get her home , I am pretty excited, and I am prerrty ssure the boy didn't sleep last night.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 pm

Ah...your right...it is a cable clutch....my bad.....I was asleep at the keyboard and I'm so deep into a 84 with a hydraulic clutch I missed the 83 part about the bike.
Killed the engine with the clutch in first gear is a good sign.$750 is also a great deal.It leaves some breathing room.
Post some pictures and keep us up to date.Good find and good luck.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:23 am

Ok we got her home with no issues, Rolled her off the trailer and into the garage. The battery in the bike is toast. We used a boost pack to boost her and again she fired right up, charging good, then the head light went out and the volts dropped to 0 but she kept running, Will have to check the fuses. The bike has a throtle lock which will be going by the way side. It is my son's bike and he lives 80 miles away so I don't want to jump into it without him, He might as well leave a little skin on his bike lol I will get some pic together when I get a chance.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:26 am

Check the dogbone master fuse - that can cause symptoms like you describe. If it's gone, consider replacing it with a 30 amp blade fuse holder and a blade fuse. Have a look at this post, it has a couple pictures of what you're looking for. The dogbone fuse is held in place with two screw terminals, and the fuse screws into place as you can see.

Then have a look at this post, where you can see the replacement I used. I took a couple large spade lug terminals and crimped them onto the ends of the wire coming out of the blade fuse holder. I then just screwed the two terminals in place of the dogbone fuse. That's all there is to it, really.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:41 am

Please get the battery problem fix before you go any further.
A booster or jumping a bike with that much electronics is just asking for trouble.
Keep a battery maintenance charger on it to keep it up till you resolve it's problems,not a charger.
Only operate the bike with a good battery.
Voltage spikes will reek havoc with computer controls.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:15 am

Yes the battery is the first issue, but the Boy might as well leave a little skin on the bike, The more he learns and know about it the better down the road

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:51 am

Yes sir. There's nothing like bloody knuckles, burnt fingertips and greasy fingers.
It makes the bike more personal than just something to ride.
It's the difference between "I got a bike" see it? and " I own a bike" every last nut and bolt

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:51 pm

Ok here is where I am with this bike (my Son's Bike) Like I have said I don't want to dive into it without him. I did have a look at the dog bone fuse. It looks OK but I have bought the replacement as sujested by Wing Admin and it will be changed. I did put a new battery in it, and I have a horn and break lights. She has no head light and the volts read zero, All signal lights stay on they do not flash at all just stay on. The bike started as soon as I hit the start button and still no change in any of the lights or volts.

From the reading I have done we will be changing that dog bone fuse and chacking the common failure point under the false tank. Also I am not so sure that the headlight isn't butn't out and possibly one of the signal bulb filamants much like on a car when one butns the rest fail.

All this when the boy shows up after all it's his bike.............but this is driving me nuts to walk by the bike in the garage and not touching it...yo much

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:36 pm

Darn kids, never around when you need them

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby Pam » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:29 pm

OK it got the better of me... and I couldn't walk past it any longer.....I am recouping from back surgery so am not suppose to bent. Any way it got the better of me. I put the new battery back in, cleaned up the contacts at the dog bone fuse, they were pretty cruddy. The three yellow wire's got a cleaning as well as I cleaned the two wires on the signal flasher. She fired right up the signals all stayed on and the head light was very dim almost like a bad ground. 14.2 volts at the battery just above idle, but nothing showing on the volt gauge, The dog bone will be changed when the boy gets here. Where is that common failure point located under the false tank, and can I get at it without removing the false tank. This is quite a process because I have to do this while the wife is at work and then put everything back like nothing ever happened. Otherwise I will get the gears over buggering up my back.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:53 pm

Well if it's anything like my interstate,the weak link is in the faring plug.sorry,it will be a 2 man job.I took mine off to get to the plugs.there were multiple pins corroded in there.

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Re: 83 Aspencade

Postby rooferx » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:49 pm

Remember your suppose to be having fun....deep breath




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