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weight is hard to get used to

Postby hockeystuff54 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:42 pm



im beginning to question my purchase of my wing as im older and am finding the weight is hard to adjust to,its especially bad when im moving slow,im hoping ill get used to it but may have to step down in size if it doesnt work



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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby AZWinger » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:59 pm

Hockeystuff,
Give it more time and I'm sure you'll get more comfortable on it. I traded up to a GL1800 in April and the first few weeks, I felt exactly as you do. I'm 68 years old and felt like I'd bit off more than I can chew. The GL weighs in at about 900 pounds and slow speed manuevers are still a challenge for me. I'm sure many experienced riders will chime in and offer tips. One I can offer is this...When coming to a stop, keep your head up and keep the front wheel straight ahead. If you use the front brake while stopping and the front wheeel is not straight, you increase the chances of tipping over. Oh, and...when cornering, do not look down; look far into the turn...and...try not to use the front brake when doing slow speed manuevers. Like I said, get out there and ride. As you gain more seat time, I'm sure you'll gain more confidence. Ride safe my friend, and don't make any quick decisions about selling your 'Wing.
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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby Phunnybone » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:21 pm

Here's the forum post with a video on how to pick it back up http://www.goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5443

Glad I watched this BEFORE I bought my '85 LTD. No sooner had it off the trailer I brought it home on than I dumped it in the grass while pulling into the carport :o First two or three weeks of ownership I must've dumped her about 5 or 6 times. Getting better at keeping her vertical :)

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby liljack » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:30 pm

Ride like a pro goes thru the parking lot maneuvers, I purchased the DVD's and practiced in the parking lot. Very useful.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:45 pm

The trick to moving slow...is actually to go faster. When trying to do slow-speed maneuvers, if you are too slow, it becomes very unstable. Speed up a little bit, lean the bike in the direction you want it to go, and lean your body the OPPOSITE way - this is called counterbalancing. You do it instinctively when you swerve around something on the road.

Go to an empty parking lot and practice, practice, practice. The bike will become much "lighter" and easy to maneuver. You'll eventually find that it's really very easy to throw around.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:13 pm

I felt the same way when I got my Wing. Actually had it go over on me in a slow manoeuvre. No damage just to my pride as it happened in the previous owners yard with the wife on the back. I joined GWRRA and took in their Advanced Rider Class and parking lot practices. After that my wife commented on how well I was handling the bike so it did something.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby skier » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:49 pm

I dropped my on a slow turn on the ride home after buying my '87 1200i early last summer, being too cautious and going too slow. Everyone has given good advice, especially our admin dude. Parking lots are great practice areas. I'm in your age range at 62, and I thought at first that I made a real mistake. Love the wing now, and it feels now like the dirt bikes I owned years ago. I must say that I think a lot of it is mental, hang in there and get used to the beast. I think you'll end up loving it.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby rodee71 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:50 am

The sooner you get programmed to leaning the bike to your right by pushing slightly on the right grip (and leaning left by pushing on the left grip), which will turn the bike in the direction in which you are pushing the grip, the more confident you will become manuvering at any speed. I'm 64 and my '82 is the heaviest bike ever for me (and its been 30 years since I last rode). I lost my balance at least 6-7 times and laid it down just trying to back it out the garage on foot, and once turning 90 degrees into the gravel driveway coming home. No damage to the bike, the floorboards kept everything above them from hitting the ground, thank goodness, but practice and pride kept me motivated. I can't imagine riding anything other than my 'Wing. But there were a few bad words flying around early on. The guys here are giving you the best advice you'll get on what to do, so give it time and you won't regret it. Promise.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby Pam » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:57 am

All good advice, I try to keep my head up look where I want to go and when cornering I keep my head level. Seat time will overcome the uneasyness

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby skier » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:31 pm

Yes, what Pam said...keep your head up and looking where you want to go, not where you are. The bike will go where you look.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby Mac_Musick » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:16 pm

I have been riding since 1964. Have owned Valks, and several Wings including an 1800. I love Wings. Yesterday I bought an 84 650 Nighthawk. What a thrill to be able to flick a bike again, steer with my knees, easily push the bike around in my garage. Yes I love my Wings but this sporty little Nighthawk is the definition of fun. Sometimes it seems worthwhile to recognize the difference between 900 lbs and 450 lbs.
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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby bjatwood » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:54 am

All good ideas. I find that by applying a bit of throttle while applying the rear brake
(I know its linked,but still helps) keeps the bike very stable at slow speeds also. ;)

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:20 am

bjatwood wrote:All good ideas. I find that by applying a bit of throttle while applying the rear brake
(I know its linked,but still helps) keeps the bike very stable at slow speeds also. ;)


Right. That keeps the suspension a little tighter, it also removes all driveline lash. For slow speeds, I will drag my rear brake (trail braking), hold the revs at around 1200 RPM, and let the clutch slip. Controlling speed is done by moving the clutch in and out, which gives you FAR faster response time than trying to "catch" the bike with the throttle, which has lag. It can mean the difference between falling over and a non-event.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby hockeystuff54 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm

i really want to thank all my new found friends on here for the advice and ideas ,i spent the last few days riding it around the yard and trying some of these suggestions out and after a couple of days im starting to get more confident in myself,i have ridden before so its not my first dance but the suzuki
( swear word) lol wasnt as heavy as this.i fully intend to keep the wing now because i love it and i love the comfort it offers .so you guys were right practice practice practice and im sure the results will be nothing but postive.worst comess to worsrt i machine up training wheels ,thanks all

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby saltmar14 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:38 am

after a year of riding i still tense up on slow turns, i read a book on big bikes that teaches the friction zone that i have yet to master. i go to the local church parking lot to practice, the book teaches to pracrice in third gear as you are learning your turns. i also give more throttle when turning out that makes it easier.

i too have had it tip over and have learned to pick it up more than once.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby twostrokes48 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:11 pm

One thing I noticed that made a big difference on mine. I knew I needed to adjust the steering head bearings, I did it when I had the new tires and rear brakes done before this trip. At the same time before tighting down the handle bars, I told the mech instead of using his mark, I sat on the bike and grabbed the bars and just set them in the position that felt "right". He then tightened them down.
The steering head bearing adjustment made a BIG difference in the way it responded to my wishes. But also the handle bars were not adjusted to my riding style and confort. That also made a BIG difference in the way I handled the bike....Between the two it now drives like a dream and handles much much better for me... So my suggestion is at least go through adjusting the handlebars to your confort position for steering....the bearings adjustment, you decide...

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:34 pm

Definitely the steering head bearings, when I got mine the front end felt "sloppy" to me, and once I tightened the bearings up to where they should have been, it felt much more solid and reliable.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby yechave » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:13 pm

Ever consider going to a scooter?

I thought I would never be interested in one of those, until..... my SO became interested and bought a 250cc Helix. What a blast that is to drive! At 375 lbs or so, you can pick that up off its side with one hand with its low center of gravity. Very nimble, had no problem doing 65 mph on the hwy, no shifting and just tons of fun, as well as an estimated 70 mpg. Had I looked at a scooter and actually driven one before buying the GW, we may well have bought two of them.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby tvanvran » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:27 am

Just upgraded from a Victory Kingpin Tour (still have her) and have had the same experiences. Great advise here has helped me learn "from the pros". Look where you want to go and not were your going has been great advise from someone how has been on a wing for years. Thanks for all this help.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby wepaddle » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:56 am

tvanvran wrote:Just upgraded from a Victory Kingpin Tour (still have her) and have had the same experiences. Great advise here has helped me learn "from the pros". Look where you want to go and not were your going has been great advise from someone how has been on a wing for years. Thanks for all this help.




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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby m2102 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:10 am

when i went to look at my wing from th PO i dumped it in his yard. i thought,o boy,like it or not i just bought a wing. yep bought it and when i got it home,laid it down in grass 3 times,haven't done it since.that was year and a half ago and love every minute on it.
when i do slow speed turns,it feels "wobbly"and unsteady. is this the steering head bearings and if so,is there a how to tutorial on tightening them.just a touch more throttle does help in turning.

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby bjatwood » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:56 am

Here is the tutorial. It was under the How-To DIY articles... ;)
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12367

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Re: weight is hard to get used to

Postby bustedwing » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:06 pm

Hockystuff if it ever becomes a safety issue you can always graduate to 3 wheels, and only you are the one to know when the time is right for that to happen.There is no shame in riding 3 wheels and some will say they wish they had done it sooner.Take care, ride safe.


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