Aging Bikers are 3 times more likley to go down!??


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Aging Bikers are 3 times more likley to go down!??

Postby tandem54 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:42 pm



According to Today online, aging bikers are 3 times more likely to go down when riding their bike! Heres the link.
http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2013 ... snhp&pos=3


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Postby Mag » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:30 pm

Hmmm, I would like to know out of the accidents they measured, how much of it was due to the elder driving the bike compared to someone else causing the accident. I think with the biking community getting more and more popular, especially in the 50+ set, all % are going to increase anyway. Figure the Boom generation is going to create the largest increase of all.

Hmmm, I will still keep on riding.

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Postby twostrokes48 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:06 pm

The first thing I notice is that it is a story by NBC...King of spin.....take some stats and make it into a story......I pay little attention that comes from the MSM on ANY TOPIC. I don't watch it, or read it unless I want to get my BP up.

I too will keep riding as long as I am physically able. I do recognize my weakness creeping up on me. This is why I am getting another trike for two up riding and dropping back to a gl1000 to lose some bike weight for riding solo....When I can't handle that, I will drop further back to my CB750k2 and have to give up the 6000 rides or take them over a longer period of time.

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Postby tfdeputydawg » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:36 am

I think they left out the part that by far the older riders w/more severe injuries where HD riders in that, the rule is if you ride a Harley you don't wear a helmet :ugeek:

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Postby silverbullet07 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:41 am

I work with seniors everyday. I watch the movements, listen to the stories of aches and pains. I push the wheelchairs and hold the hands of the slow movers. Some are not even that old, but what I've learned is just to keep moving. Try to do those stretches, lift a little weight, go for walks or ride that bicycle. Work in the yard and keep up on the honeydo's. Thats what is going to keep us on our Goldwings as long as possible until common sense tells us for the safety of others its time to hang up the keys ;)

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Postby tfdeputydawg » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:39 am

Trike it and keep on going :D

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Postby SteveB123 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:33 am

Looks to me that they just used raw stats...."more older riders got into accidents", on a gross stat basis, absolutely true.
The fact that there ARE more older riders, putting on MORE miles, was ignored!

A per/mile analysis is needed.....or the safest Hayabusa riders are statisicly 0-5 years old! :lol:
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Postby Mag » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:53 am

Those damn 0-5 year olds, they always win.

I look at it this way, my dad is 76, still very active, has 10 acres that he walks and maintains. Granted, his mind is not as sharp and this is part of motorcycling, but I would say like any muscle, if you do not use it you lose it. This is so true.

I am so more aware on the bike, and rolls over when driving the "cage" (truck or car). I am so more aware of everything around me, and this keeps my focus. I wish I could keep my wits about me until I am 150 but that would be no fun, what would I blame selective memory loss and selective hearing loss on (that will help when I do not want to do ALL the honey do).

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Postby tandem54 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 pm

I think most riders understand that we are getting older AND more careful, and we are the first to think about getting a trik or just cutting back!
Like was said they don't say anything about how many more miles we put on.
And they don't say the age of car accidents in the same way.
I know there are going to be more in an older age group THERES MORE OF US!!!
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Postby themainviking » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:56 pm

tandem54 wrote:I know there are going to be more in an older age group THERES MORE OF US!!!


And we have more time to travel on our motorcycles. The stats don't look at the man and woman from Montreal who had been to Lake Placid, and on return were crushed when a steel beam broke loose from a tractor trailer and landed on them and their motorcycle, but would have if they were not dead. The stats do not include the driver of the big rig who lost his load, because he was not injured. Any stats can be made to prove just about anything, but in this case it is pure hyperbole. (that means B.S. in a nicer word)
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Postby RoadRogue » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:52 pm

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics. you can "prove" any point you want with statistics 8-)
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Postby dingdong » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:22 am

Then there is the older generation that have never ridden a bike but always wanted to who are buying big cruisers and touring bikes. They have to be a large percentage of the statistics. Older rider, no experience, fall down go boom. Perhaps it should be mandatory to take a riding course before getting an endorsement. ???
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Postby twostrokes48 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:02 am

The safety course is now a requirement in Texas. All applications for MC license requires a completion certificate.

I also agree with the statement someone else made about someone considered a senior deciding to do the MC thing for the first time. Very dangerous with big bikes especially. They don't realize they are balancing half a car (by weight) between their legs which requires a lot more knowledge than strength and strength won't make up for the lack of knowledge in most instances.

I know when I decided to go back to riding after a nearly 15 year layoff (at about 60) first thing I did was to take the Texas approved Safety Course, although I had over 30 years of previous riding experience. Of course all that didn't stop a young cager driving and texting from slaming into my ass end when road emergency occured. Wrong place, wrong time.

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Postby kikker » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:57 am

I've had good luck for 45 years so far. You think the odds are agains me at 66 years old huh? I don't pay much attention to stats. I just ride and enjoy it while I can.

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Postby crock4 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:31 pm

kikker wrote:I've had good luck for 45 years so far. You think the odds are agains me at 66 years old huh? I don't pay much attention to stats. I just ride and enjoy it while I can.


I agree, I am 63 and will continue to ride as long as I feel comfortable doing it. My son is 33. He quit riding recently because he witnessed 2 fatalities involving motorcycles in one week coming home from work on the interstate. I hated to see him give it up because I really loved to ride with him, and his wife. He said though that he no longer felt comfortable doing it. I hope that does not ever happen to me, but if it does I hope that I would be smart enough to do like he did, and not put anyone elses safety at risk by not knowing when to hang it up.
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Postby warnett » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:33 pm

Just starting riding again after about 20 years. I just turned 69. I bought a classic 1982 Asp. what I was riding b4 was a KZ1000 with a windjammer fairing. At least the Goldwing set is a couple of inches closer to the ground but, god its heavy. I figured I would just sell it so I bought a 650 Yamaha which is really low to the ground. I had rode the wing and prefered the 650. But after my riding skills came back I got where I liked the wing too. Just hope I never drop it. Don't know if I will be able to pick it up. So I use the 650 for runing around town and the wing on the highway. By the way the first time I got on the wing I gave it to much and did a lot of fishtailing but didn't lose it. Thats the first ride after 20 years so whats age got to do with it.

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Postby twostrokes48 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:56 pm

[quote="warnett"]Just starting riding again after about 20 years. I just turned 69. I bought a classic 1982 Asp. what I was riding b4 was a KZ1000 with a windjammer fairing. At least the Goldwing set is a couple of inches closer to the ground but, god its heavy. I figured I would just sell it so I bought a 650 Yamaha which is really low to the ground. I had rode the wing and prefered the 650. But after my riding skills came back I got where I liked the wing too. Just hope I never drop it. Don't know if I will be able to pick it up. So I use the 650 for runing around town and the wing on the highway. By the way the first time I got on the wing I gave it to much and did a lot of fishtailing but didn't lose it. Thats the first ride after 20 years so whats age got to do with it.[/quote

I know they are heavy....I also know my stength is not what it was. I decided to drop back from the 1500 to a 75 gl1000. It is 230lbs lighter..That is a lot of weight. I'm going to trike the 1500...
I'll use the trike with the wife and the 1000 for riding solo....I'll give up some comfort but I rode many years without the comfort before so I can deal with it. Plus, if I really want the comfort, I can still take the trike solo also...just not much fun in the twisties.

Now, if I could just make myself get to work on the bikes to get them up and ready for riding season, which is right now here in south central texas.

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Postby kikker » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 pm

warnett wrote:Just starting riding again after about 20 years. I just turned 69. I bought a classic 1982 Asp. what I was riding b4 was a KZ1000 with a windjammer fairing. At least the Goldwing set is a couple of inches closer to the ground but, god its heavy. I figured I would just sell it so I bought a 650 Yamaha which is really low to the ground. I had rode the wing and prefered the 650. But after my riding skills came back I got where I liked the wing too. Just hope I never drop it. Don't know if I will be able to pick it up. So I use the 650 for runing around town and the wing on the highway. By the way the first time I got on the wing I gave it to much and did a lot of fishtailing but didn't lose it. Thats the first ride after 20 years so whats age got to do with it.


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Postby golden highway » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:26 pm

I agree with some of this. I noticed when I was about 50 that I wasn't as alert or nimble as when I was younger. That has concerned me for sometime and the closer I get to 60 the more it has been hitting home. I started going to the gym and working out, now I am stronger and more stable. I think this has improved my riding ability. My reflexes ate still slower. With the number of over 50 people riding for the first time or riding again after 20 or 30 years, the number of accidents has to go up. I still think I am a safer rider today then when I was young and crazy.

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Postby kikker » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:10 am

I might add that I don't ride near as much as I did when I was 35 to 40 years old. To tell you the truth I don't enjoy it as much either. I lost my wife in August 1987. She was only 39 years old and it was devastating and I still haven't gotten over it. We use to ride 20,000 to 30,000 miles on per year. I'm fortunate to ride 8,000 to 12,000 miles per year now.

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Postby golden highway » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:21 am

Kikker you have a good point. I also road more when I was younger. Now my bike might sit for up to three weeks, but usually a week is more reality. That first trip after a long break isn't as smooth as when I am riding regularly.

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Postby patbrandon1 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:22 am

99% of all statistics at made up on the spot. Just the other day I heard that 5/4ths of all people from Michigan, have trouble with fractions.

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Postby warnett » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:19 am

statistics are bs. Done by insurance in order to raise insurance rates. They charge you more when your young and starting to charge more when your a senior. Funny thing young people have better reflexs but pay more and seniors have poorer reflexs and pay more.

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Postby SteveB123 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:16 pm

warnett wrote: Funny thing young people have better reflexs but pay more and seniors have poorer reflexs and pay more.


Nothing funny about it at all.
Young people have much better reflexes, but less experience and poorer judgment.
Older is just the opposite.
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Postby brettchallenger » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:28 pm

I don't think this article actually says anything that most of us did not already know. It doesn't say that older riders are more likely to crash; in fact I suspect the opposite to be be true, but suggests that older riders involved in accidents probably suffer greater injury. Anyone who has played sport into their fifties will know that injuries shrugged off in your twenties can last for months or greater when sustained in much later life. Of course older people are at greater risk when exposed to violent accidents, we have more brittle bones, less suppleness and generally much less "mendability" than we did. So generally we compensate by riding more safely, we understand the pointlessness of getting to a red light quicker, and use our knowledge of riding to our advantage. But ask any health care professional (me for instance) if carrying out an activity which carries some statistical risk of increased injury should be stopped and he/she will say a definite NO, the benefits of riding will always outweigh the risks provided sensible precautions are put in place.


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