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Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:22 pm



I have searched the forum and didn't find much, so i thought I would ask. I have never used a headlight modulator, but my wife and I both ride (Usually with one kid on the back of each bike). We are both defensive riders and I have noticed a couple of cars look like they didn't see my wife when she was leading us on a ride until the last minute, so it seems like time to fit some modulators. My wife rides a Honda VT750 and I have a GL1800, I was looking for some recommendations on headlight modulators, they all look to be a similar price (around 80 bucks for the CT) and about 120 for the wing..

Which ones work and which ones should I avoid? I see Kriss, Kisan, Signal Dynamics, etc.. but have no idea which are good and which arent?

Any and all comments/feedback would be very welcome.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:50 pm

I decided to put one on my bike the first time I saw one on the road. I had read about them before, but didn't put much stock in what I had read. However, the first time I saw one on a bike while driving, and realized that it had caught my eye (and drawn attention to the bike) from over a quarter mile away, I decided that it was a Good Thing. I put a Kisan unit (having read good reviews on it) on my 82 1100. People definitely notice it. I had many people stop and say, "hey, your headlight's flashing." There's no way to quantitatively measure it, but to me, it seemed like I had a lot less people doing things that made it seem like they hadn't seen me. People see you on your bike, and that's always good.

I put one on my wife's bike when she got it, and then on my 1500 when I got it as well - all Kisan units, as they're easy to install and work very well.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Sally » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:17 pm

I have an Kisan path blazer great unit would not ride without it. Sally

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Bamaeagle » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:21 pm

I have the Kisan units on both my 1500 and my 1800. I would give it a two thumbs up. I have had cagers start to pull out in front of me until they see the headlights modulating. I have also had people pull over to the right when I come up behind them...guess they think I am a LEO...LOL. I have also had people tell me when I come to a stop that I had something wrong with my headlights....LOL.

I like the modulators alot and will always have them on my bikes. I also have the Backoff tail light modulators on both wings.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:22 pm

Thanks Everyone, looks like I will go with a Kisan unit for both bikes. :D

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:45 pm

Don't think they're legal in all the States are they?Might want to check first before you spend the money.
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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WA9FWT » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:02 pm

Fatwing Chris wrote:Don't think they're legal in all the States are they?Might want to check first before you spend the money.

I echo all the above posts and comments on using a Headlite modulators.
They are legal in all 50 states.I carry a paper explaining such,if I ever would be stopped.

Like I say, I will never leave home with out flashing during the day.It has saved my butt, more then once.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:16 pm

Headlight modulators are legal in all states and provinces in the US and Canada. Federal law trumps any local or state legislation on this.

If you click on Manuals at the top of the screen, then scroll down to the very bottom, you'll see:

Motorcycle Headlight Modulator Regulations - USA and Canada

This is a PDF that you can print out and carry on your bike. It has two pages, one contains the US regulations, the other is the Canadian regulations. I carry this in my bike to show to any law enforcement who may doubt the legality of my headlight modulator.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:41 pm

One reason I painted my bike white, cops bikes are white here in San Antonio, they notice me right quick...No modulator though..anyone of you with a white bike can confirm this...

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:24 am

Thanks Guys....

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Fatwing Chris » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:41 pm

Good to know.I thought it was kinda up in the air in different States and Provs.
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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:45 pm

I had forgotten about this video, Littlebeaver reminded me. This is a video I took of my 1100, demonstrating the headlight modulator.




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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WA9FWT » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:49 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I had forgotten about this video, Littlebeaver reminded me. This is a video I took of my 1100, demonstrating the headlight modulator.





You sure have a lot of old good video's to show the new commers to this site.What better way to show people then with a great Video.
I also notice on your grass under that tree all that white snow :lol: We got more here today in Sheboygan,
16.9 inches, and winds last evening 51.2 MPH recordered.And whats not funny, it is still snowing this evening :shock:

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Mag » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:29 pm

I think I want one of those (modulator, not the '82, though really nice bike).

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby Old Fogey » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:07 am

If you live over here, don't even think about fitting one. You'll be pulled faster than you can blink!
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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby SailorKane » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:57 am

I had a Kisan headlight modulator on my previous bike and removed it before I sold it. I had it in the garage and just "didn't have the time" to install it on my current GL1500. Came back from West Palm Beach to Tampa, Florida the other day in late afternoon. Dead straight Florida two-lane roads. Someone was passing a slower car and in my lane, coming toward me. We all had our headlights on. I could see that he was getting much closer and might not make the pass in time. Well, he didn't. He drove me off the road onto the shoulder, which was only about 3' wide at that point. If I were in a car, I would have been in the ditch. Immediately upon returning home, I dug out the headlight modulator and am installing it now. Mine strobes when I hit high beams. There is a sensor that returns normal function at night.

One problem I have is that I wanted to install LEDs for the side lights--since one of my sidelights had burned out anyway. These are normally 3652 incandescent bulbs--very much like the 194 marker bulbs that are more common. The LEDs screw up the flashing rate of the Kisan, so I'll have to return to the incandescent 3652's, which are really hard to find. Local NAPA store had two in stock, but hadn't sold any since 2008.

Does anyone know of a headlight modulator that can handle the LED sidelights?

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:27 am

SailorKane wrote:I had a Kisan headlight modulator on my previous bike and removed it before I sold it. I had it in the garage and just "didn't have the time" to install it on my current GL1500. Came back from West Palm Beach to Tampa, Florida the other day in late afternoon. Dead straight Florida two-lane roads. Someone was passing a slower car and in my lane, coming toward me. We all had our headlights on. I could see that he was getting much closer and might not make the pass in time. Well, he didn't. He drove me off the road onto the shoulder, which was only about 3' wide at that point. If I were in a car, I would have been in the ditch. Immediately upon returning home, I dug out the headlight modulator and am installing it now. Mine strobes when I hit high beams. There is a sensor that returns normal function at night.

One problem I have is that I wanted to install LEDs for the side lights--since one of my sidelights had burned out anyway. These are normally 3652 incandescent bulbs--very much like the 194 marker bulbs that are more common. The LEDs screw up the flashing rate of the Kisan, so I'll have to return to the incandescent 3652's, which are really hard to find. Local NAPA store had two in stock, but hadn't sold any since 2008.

Does anyone know of a headlight modulator that can handle the LED sidelights?


Kisan makes one specifically for LED lights:

https://www.kisantech.com/view_product. ... =P115W-LED

Because LED lights are at a different level of output depending on the power supplied, a regular modulator will actually FLASH an LED instead of modulate it. The modified version above solves that problem.

I run a modulator on my LEDs, using a regular incandescent Kisan modulator, I added a couple of resistors across it to keep the LED "on" when the modulator would have them switch off. This keeps them from flashing, and instead makes them modulate.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby mountaincomp » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:10 pm

Thinking about putting a Kisan on my 1500, but I read that they modulate at night for either 4 or 8 "pulses" when switching from low to high beam. Didn't see any of that in the Kisan writeups. Is this still a fact or problem with these units? The review I was reading was 08 or 09. Hopefully, if this was an issue, it has now been overcome. That could be very disorienting to oncoming drivers at night.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:02 pm

mountaincomp wrote:Thinking about putting a Kisan on my 1500, but I read that they modulate at night for either 4 or 8 "pulses" when switching from low to high beam. Didn't see any of that in the Kisan writeups. Is this still a fact or problem with these units? The review I was reading was 08 or 09. Hopefully, if this was an issue, it has now been overcome. That could be very disorienting to oncoming drivers at night.


Definitely not. I've now had three of them installed on three different bikes, and none of them did that. At night they operate just as if they weren't there at all.

I wonder if the reviewer installed the light sensor incorrectly, so it was picking up light from the headlight?

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby mountaincomp » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:49 pm

Thanks. That's good enough for me. Wingstuff has them for $85 right now, so I'll commence to orderin' :D

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:09 pm

mountaincomp wrote:Thanks. That's good enough for me. Wingstuff has them for $85 right now, so I'll commence to orderin' :D


That is a good price!! :D I ordered mine from Shinhopples, also a good price!!

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby slojason » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:33 pm

Are there any "how to" videos available? My Honda dealer mechanic couldn't figure out how to make it work on my 2002 wing. He left everything installed on the bike except for the two plug in units. Now I'm left with trying to figure it out on my own...... :(

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 pm

Which system do you have? The kisan is really simple, you unplug the wires from the back of the main bulb, plug the wires into the kisan modulator and then plug the modulator onto the headlight bulb, plug in the light sensor and run it somewhere that it can see daylight.. Sounds like you have a different system?

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby slojason » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:40 pm

Sorry, it's a Kisan. I'm really backwards with wiring and the whole "slave"/"master" plug in has me a bit buffaloed.

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Re: Headlight Modulator

Postby thrasherg » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:47 pm

It sounds like you are fitting it to a GL1800 dual headlight setup? I have just ordered one for my 1800 wing but don't yet have it so I can't help you yet. My description was for the older single headlight wings.. If no-one helps you I will be happy to do so sometime next week when my unit arrives and I can read the instructions, I could also take a few pics to show you what goes where..

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