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Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby Sidcar » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:02 pm



Of course a sidecar might be needed.

http://www.iwemalpg.com/Motor_index.htm


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Re: Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby twostrokes48 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:28 pm

But,
what is the price of LPG vs price of reg. gas?
what is the MPG of LPG vs MPG of reg gas?
what is the cost of the conversion?
What is the savings per mile of LPG vs reg gas?
How many miles driven to break even?

Now with all that info, one could make a rational decision.

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Re: Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby Sidcar » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:33 pm

There's the rub, no one states how much the conversion will cost.
LPG is much cheaper than petrol over here but you'd need to do a high annual mileage to make it pay so it's not for me.

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Re: Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby thrasherg » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:47 pm

Also, be aware that when it is introduced to the inlet manifold, it is as a gas, not a liquid, this means it doesn't lubricate the valve seats and top end of the engine like Gasoline does, so the wear is even greater. You generally have to plan on a top end overhaul every 60 to 100K miles and that is not cheap and has to be factored in..

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Re: Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby redial » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:42 pm

First off, when I use the word "petrol", what I am referring to is "regular gasoline/gas".

But,
what is the price of LPG vs price of reg. gas?
what is the MPG of LPG vs MPG of reg gas?
what is the cost of the conversion?
What is the savings per mile of LPG vs reg gas?
How many miles driven to break even?

Now with all that info, one could make a rational decision.


Well I can let you know what the Australian experience is with regard to those costs:
LPG Reg Gas
AU$0.75/litre AU$1.50/litre
Expect a 10 - 15% decrease in MPG over reg gas.
About AU$4 000 for a normal six cylinder car (but varies according to make and model).
The savings accrue because the gas is about half price, but you only get about 85% efficiency from gas compared to petrol.
It takes about 3 years to break even - of course, the more you travel the greater the savings.

I have driven taxis with LPG, and they were knocking up 600 000 to 800 000, and still running on regular oil. Once they reach a certain age, they are forced off the road, but during their working life they are inspected every three months by the government inspector.

I have had three cars with LPG, and all of them worked really well on gas, and I would regularly get around 10litres/100 Km (about 28MPG (Imperial gallons)).


Gary commented:
Also, be aware that when it is introduced to the inlet manifold, it is as a gas, not a liquid, this means it doesn't lubricate the valve seats and top end of the engine like Gasoline does, so the wear is even greater. You generally have to plan on a top end overhaul every 60 to 100K miles and that is not cheap and has to be factored in..


This has not been my experience. It depends on how you use the LPG. As the contemporary LPG systems always start on petrol, and then automatically switch over to LPG, they are getting a burst of petrol everytime they start. When I run completely out of LPG, I would switch over to petrol, and run on that until I filled up. Some places in Oz are a long way between drinks/fuel stops/meals, so that could be a few kilometres of running on petrol. I have not had any problems with engine wear running it this way.

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Re: Gas too pricey change to Gas

Postby twostrokes48 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:24 pm

Actually my comments were referring to the Goldwing conversion...There are lots of pickup trucks here in TX that run on LPG.....also a number of large RVs.....Since the average person only probably puts 5-8000 miles a year on a Wing I would think it would take a very long time to cover the cost, 10-12 years or 80-100 thousand miles. It would then be time to update your wing to a newer model and start over. Many times things look great in one situation, but don't apply very well to others.




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