Average age ?


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What is your age?

Below 30
19
2%
30-34
11
1%
35-39
21
3%
40-44
36
4%
45-49
59
7%
50-54
120
14%
55-59
173
21%
60-64
165
20%
65-69
132
16%
70+
93
11%
 
Total votes: 829

EASYRIDERTOO
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Re: Average age ?

Post by EASYRIDERTOO » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:50 pm



Mag wrote:49 now, but have been riding Golds since 27...and ask my wife, I do not act my age at all, lol. I do agree with the "groups" comment, I rode with GWTA for a long time and I was definitely one of the youngest by far and got to a point of riding to the same places doing the same things, so stopped the group thing. I think now I prefer to be the "lone wolf" rider and meet up with others on the road and ride with them as I go.

Same here, I seem i got so limited, like tunnel vision, start point and destination point. I felt like I have too many stones left unturned. Some in our groups liked to be in a certain point at a certain time, felt like having pressured to a certain timeline. II'd like now to be able to stops whenever or to whatever interesting gets in my way. I d like to ride with no time schedule, stops and go whenever it feels like. I d like to have the experience of what retirement is all about, free and knows no bound. Cheers "Lone Wolf"



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Re: Average age ?

Post by wilsonw » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:27 pm

Hello Everyone,

I am 59 so apparently in that magical age range. I have been riding Goldwings for 9 years, before that I owned 82 Yamaha Virago, rode that for 26 years.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by wing rider 2012 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:00 pm

EASYRIDERTOO wrote:
Mag wrote:49 now, but have been riding Golds since 27...and ask my wife, I do not act my age at all, lol. I do agree with the "groups" comment, I rode with GWTA for a long time and I was definitely one of the youngest by far and got to a point of riding to the same places doing the same things, so stopped the group thing. I think now I prefer to be the "lone wolf" rider and meet up with others on the road and ride with them as I go.

Same here, I seem i got so limited, like tunnel vision, start point and destination point. I felt like I have too many stones left unturned. Some in our groups liked to be in a certain point at a certain time, felt like having pressured to a certain timeline. II'd like now to be able to stops whenever or to whatever interesting gets in my way. I d like to ride with no time schedule, stops and go whenever it feels like. I d like to have the experience of what retirement is all about, free and knows no bound. Cheers "Lone Wolf"
I hear you, we ride with a group sometimes, most of the time we just point the front tire of the wing down the road, when ask where we are going, well, we'll know when we get there. I'm 67, I got my first wing in 1979 I was 29 years old, it was a GL1000, that bike ran like a dream and I enjoyed every minute of it. Then work got in the way of riding, I went to work for a large communications company as a design engineer and spent 1982 to 1992 traveling all around the Pacific Rim designing and installing communications equipment for governments and other agencies. I retired in 2006, that's when I bought my second Goldwing, a 1999 GL1500 Aspencade, man, I love that bike, and best of all, my wife loved it also. We rode the hell out of the GL1500. Christmas of 2012 we were visiting our daughter in Phoenix, AZ, so we stopped by Western Honda and there it was, a 2012 Blue and Silver GL1800, my wife said to me, "Your always doing things for other people why don't you do something for yourself and buy a new bike." It didn't take me long, folks. WE now ride a 2012 Blue and Silver GL1800, what a bike, all the power you'll ever need is right at your finger tips. So far we logged many miles on the bike and have plans to log many, many more.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by EASYRIDERTOO » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:27 pm

Hello wing Rider,

The best and the greatest quote ever. "we just point the front tire of the wing down the road, when ask where we are going, well, we'll know when we get there. Cheers my man, you guys got it right on !

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Re: Average age ?

Post by jandjgoldwing » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:46 pm

My bride and I like to ride alone (she has hers, I have mine). We lived in Daytona nearly a decade, and Bike Week and Biketoberfest are classic examples of "follow the leader". Seems like the focus is to go from bar to bar. The first year, we played along. After that, we avoided it as best we could.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by paulr » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:39 pm

I have just returned from a nice sunny ride over to the east coast,as I live in the UK...Yorkshire...it is only a 160 mile round trip.My 26 year old 1500 Interstate Wing still runs like it should, the only regret is I didn't buy it when it was new and I was younger. I turned 68 years old last year.I also have a VTX 1800C and have no intention as yet of giving it up





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Re: Average age ?

Post by seelyark1 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:51 pm

I am getting to enjoy this post more and more. It now tells me that I am 4 years younger than I am on the first post of each page :D .
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Re: Average age ?

Post by john.swenson » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:56 pm

56 years old, I got my first Goldwing at age 35

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someone548
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Re: Average age ?

Post by someone548 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:31 am

Too bad there isn't a Young Gold Wing Road Riders Association..... The local chapter invited me to breakfast....but let's be honest here. They're (based on this survey) in their 50s and I'm in my 20s. I'm just not sure our respective conversation topics would jive beyond basic GoldWing/Riding topics. They do it on Saturday mornings and well....being young and single I do tend to be out on Friday nights so I'm not generally up for some breakfast first thing Saturday anyway.

Probably not enough of us youngsters out there anyway to have a young group.... I don't really understand that though. Is it the "old man" bike thing that keeps younger riders away? Maybe to an extent, but who really cares? The cost? Most of my buddies crotch rockets cost them more than I paid for my pristine GL1500 so that probably isn't it. It's not like the Corvette thing when you have to be in your "high earning" years to even afford one. Still scratching my head on this one.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:36 pm

someone548 wrote:Too bad there isn't a Young Gold Wing Road Riders Association..... The local chapter invited me to breakfast....but let's be honest here. They're (based on this survey) in their 50s and I'm in my 20s. I'm just not sure our respective conversation topics would jive beyond basic GoldWing/Riding topics. They do it on Saturday mornings and well....being young and single I do tend to be out on Friday nights so I'm not generally up for some breakfast first thing Saturday anyway.

Probably not enough of us youngsters out there anyway to have a young group.... I don't really understand that though. Is it the "old man" bike thing that keeps younger riders away? Maybe to an extent, but who really cares? The cost? Most of my buddies crotch rockets cost them more than I paid for my pristine GL1500 so that probably isn't it. It's not like the Corvette thing when you have to be in your "high earning" years to even afford one. Still scratching my head on this one.
I kind of agree - I've been riding Goldwings since I was in my 30's, and my GWRRA chapter...well, I'm virtually always (even still) the youngest guy there. I'm also probably the thinnest, by quite a margin. And when every "ride" consists of going from a restaurant in one town, to an ice cream stand in the next, etc...it's no wonder why. I take rides on my GL1500 where I generally stop for a rest whenever I need gas, so maybe once every 2-3 hours or so. My local GWRRA chapter ride participants generally need to stop for a break every 30 minutes!

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Re: Average age ?

Post by someone548 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:36 am

WingAdmin wrote: I kind of agree - I've been riding Goldwings since I was in my 30's, and my GWRRA chapter...well, I'm virtually always (even still) the youngest guy there. I'm also probably the thinnest, by quite a margin. And when every "ride" consists of going from a restaurant in one town, to an ice cream stand in the next, etc...it's no wonder why. I take rides on my GL1500 where I generally stop for a rest whenever I need gas, so maybe once every 2-3 hours or so. My local GWRRA chapter ride participants generally need to stop for a break every 30 minutes!
I have the same feelings in regards to that. I like to ride to go somewhere besides the restaurant in the next town. Every hundred miles or so is a fine interval for me. Sometimes longer.

I've run into the same thing with other groups. I've been invited to join various Miata clubs and their activities and demographics are kind of the same. More about eating than driving.

Perhaps it isn't an age thing so much as it is a purpose thing that is divider. I'd love to join a group that does long rides, camping trips, tech/maintenance days, etc I bought my Goldwing because it's the best option for comfortable long distance riding. That's where my interest is. Touring. Seeing the country one road at a time.

Thanks for the reply by the way and thanks for all the very well documented DIY articles. I've printed many of them and I've used them on all the major projects I've done on my wing since I bought it. Not every community has someone willing to take the time to do that sort of thing in such a thorough manner. It is very much appreciated.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by dtrider » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:35 am

WingAdmin wrote: I kind of agree - I've been riding Goldwings since I was in my 30's, and my GWRRA chapter...well, I'm virtually always (even still) the youngest guy there. I'm also probably the thinnest, by quite a margin. And when every "ride" consists of going from a restaurant in one town, to an ice cream stand in the next, etc...it's no wonder why. I take rides on my GL1500 where I generally stop for a rest whenever I need gas, so maybe once every 2-3 hours or so. My local GWRRA chapter ride participants generally need to stop for a break every 30 minutes!
Our local GWRRA group seems to have dried up and I suspect it's because that was the type of riding that they did. I managed to find another motorcycle club that accepts all types of bikes and is more into riding than into stopping. Our typical Saturday ride is usually anywhere from 200 - 300 miles with a few over-nighters thrown into the season just for fun. If I could only go for about 30 minutes at a time, I would probably trade in the 'Wing and just get a commuter.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by cyberlon » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:50 pm

I'm not old. I am, however, old enough to be offended that my gl1100 is considered "vintage" by a website I visited recently.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by MiWinger51 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:24 am

cyberlon wrote:I'm not old. I am, however, old enough to be offended that my gl1100 is considered "vintage" by a website I visited recently.
Generally any vehicle over 30 years old is considered "vintage". If I were a motorcycle I would have been "vintage" for 36 years!!
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Re: Average age ?

Post by cyberlon » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:37 pm

Synonyms for "vintage" include: high-quality, quality, choice, select, prime, superior

Maybe I should re-think that whole "offended" idea.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by LeMaitre » Mon May 01, 2017 9:13 am

54 first wing 1985 GL1200A. Story behind the purchase is in the "What made you buy a Goldwing" thread.

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speedy04
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Re: Average age ?

Post by speedy04 » Sun May 07, 2017 10:49 pm

So I'm on the younger side of things being 40, but I have now had my wing for 3 years. I never would have thought that I would own one when I started driving bikes at 18 let alone one I thought was loud and noisy. :lol: Granted I was only 5 at the time, but I hated the bike. My uncle finally decided to sell his wing to me when I bought my house, he had not ridden much since my aunt passed away. I enjoy seeing my uncle's face when my kids tell him how much fun they have riding.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by Stantheman55 » Thu May 18, 2017 9:04 pm

I'm 62 people at church find out my age and say "Really"? Makes me feel good. I just bought my 2000 1500se last week. To me Goldwings are the gold standard of motor cycles.
I have been riding since I was 12, my Schwann stingray had a 1 hp motor with friction drive that bolted to the fork and powered the front wheel. At 15 it was my uncle sonny's Honda 90 at 21 I had a Cow I want to say 500 then a Yamaha 2cycl. 650 if I remember correctly. 20 min. After I got off that bone shaker I thought I was still on it.

The last bike was a 1985 Yamaha Fj1100 which I'm selling I have been riding it since 2000. Going from a pegs rearward to a pegs in the middle takes a little getting used to. As some one said scooting through traffic and curves leaning forward seems more natural but I'm getting the hang of my wing more each day.

I too was on an ALS rescue unit for 20 of my 30 year F.D.Career, and scraped many a rider off the road. Never stopped me from riding and never did I ever run on a downed wing.

To my brother in (EMS) and wing rider, glad you made it to retirement.
As I said early on, it's taking a little getting used to but am so enjoying the ride the feel and the comfort.

The other night I had a fellow in his mid 20's come up to me in the store and ask if I was riding my bike I said yes( Wonder what his first clue was) I still had my due rag on finger tip less gloves and my Wing jacket on! Maybe if I wore my helmet in he wouldn't have asked?
Anyway the usual chat of what are you riding. When I told him a Goldwing his eyes lit up.... oh wow he said, I just got talked into buying an Hd by a salesman, I really think I should have gotten a Goldwing.

I thought to my self "ah yep ya should have, live and learn." Don't get me wrong Hd is a good company putting out a good product but after borrowing my neighbors cop bike and going on a 250 mile run I will keep my wing thanks.
I'll end this by saying after reading and talking to guys and gals on this site I feel very comfee, at home and in good company. Thanks!
Be safe all and see ya on the road!......Stan.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:47 am

I'll be 63 in another 20 days and not expected to give up riding anytime soon :)

Stuart.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by redial » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:59 pm

I am starting to feel my age, at 75.5 years young. I would love to put two wheels on the front of my GL1500A, thus enticing my spouse to come riding with me.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:47 am

redial wrote:I am starting to feel my age, at 75.5 years young. I would love to put two wheels on the front of my GL1500A, thus enticing my spouse to come riding with me.
The latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News has an article on three wheel conversions, including two wheels on the front that articulate with the bike as it turns.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by offcenter » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:21 pm

WingAdmin wrote: I kind of agree - I've been riding Goldwings since I was in my 30's, and my GWRRA chapter...well, I'm virtually always (even still) the youngest guy there. I'm also probably the thinnest, by quite a margin. And when every "ride" consists of going from a restaurant in one town, to an ice cream stand in the next, etc...it's no wonder why. I take rides on my GL1500 where I generally stop for a rest whenever I need gas, so maybe once every 2-3 hours or so. My local GWRRA chapter ride participants generally need to stop for a break every 30 minutes!
I have a variation of the same problem.
I am a morning person. The only people I can find to
ride with me want to get started at 10 am....or 11 am!!!
Fer cryin' out loud! The day is half shot by then and roads
are full of idiots poking along in cars!
I like to ride when the sun is just coming up. The roads are
empty. I have it all to myself. The air is fresh and clear!
7 am is ok. 6 am is even better.
But I can't find anyone who wants to get their lazy
asses out of bed at that hour!
....Or...
If I do find someone to go riding, before we even start
the engines, the first thing out of their mouth is
"What time are we getting home?"
How do I know what time we're getting home when I
don't even know where we're going? If you need to be
home, don't leave. You're already here!

By the way, I'm 67.
What's their excuse?
George in Jersey.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:06 am

offcenter, im with you on that. down here in tennessee, It seems that a lot of people want to wake up at "the crack of noon",(which is the NEW 6 am lol). being born and raised in NJ, (Elizabeth, right across the highway from Newark Airport), I was used to waking up at 6 am to go to work. Even at that time in the morning the roads would already have traffic from others going to work at that time of day. I have a friend that calls me to ride with him, but he would call me at 4 in the afternoon and say "hey, wanna go for a bike ride?", and i would say to him, "yeah, when you call me at 8 or 9 am, not at 3 or 4 in the afternoon". first of all it would take me almost an hour to get to his house to begin with which doesn't leave much time for riding, secondly on the ride back home from where ever, i would have to deal with rush hour traffic, which is a nightmare around here.

When I moved down to the florida keys, I loved waking up at 4 or 5 am, get dressed, ride my bike up to Ft. Lauderdale, (up US1 and onto I95) which usually took about an hour due to the lack of traffic on the roads at that time of morning, grab a cup of coffee at the local mini mart and go watch the sunrise over the ocean at Ft. Lauderdale beach. While sitting there i watched all the joggers, dog walkers and bicyclists pass by and most of them were pretty friendly with their "good morning's". I would either stay at the beach for the day or ride around Ft. Lauderdale visiting friends, or go to the "swap shop" which is a really really large indoor/outdoor flea market, (some of you guys in south florida might know this place and know what im talking about) or wait for some of the restaurants to open to get some breakfast. In any event it made for a nice day out adventure.

BTW, i'll be 63 this coming Friday :D

Stuart.

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Re: Average age ?

Post by offcenter » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:15 pm

Yup, Stuart. You and I think alike. Too bad you don't live up here anymore.
I'm originally from Orange, not too far from Elizabeth. But for the last forty years
I've lived up here near Lake Hopatcong, in the northwest corner of the state.
We have some REALLY nice roads for riding up this way...if you can get someone out to
ride them.
Because much of Jersey is such a mess traffic wise, I tend to go west or north when I
head out for a ride. It's still nice out towards the Poconos or up towards the Catskills...
...especially at 6 in the morning!!
George in Jersey.
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Re: Average age ?

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:43 pm

Well, my home was originally in Elizabeth for most of my life, but for a while i lived up in Morristown, then in Parsippany, then bought a home in Boonton and lived there for a few years, and after i lost it due to a work accident, i had to move back to my parents home in "good ol Elizabeth". I worked in Whippany on rt 10, in Dover on rt 46 and Ledgewood also on rt 46, so i do know there area you live in. Been up your way many times in the past. Loved driving up into the mountains and boating on Lake Hopatcong, but can't say i miss NJ with all its road traffic and winter weather. I'm a June baby, i need the heat lol.

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