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bias or radial

Postby fuzzydog » Wed May 29, 2013 3:28 pm



Witch is the best tire to run on my 1500 radial or bias I see they have both of them in that size



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Re: bias or radial

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 29, 2013 6:46 pm

The GL1500 is designed for bias-ply tires only. Bias ply tires have much stiffer sidewalls than radial tires.

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Re: bias or radial

Postby fuzzydog » Wed May 29, 2013 10:05 pm

Thank you a dealer was trying to sale me some radials I wanted to make sure

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Re: bias or radial

Postby cardinal » Fri May 31, 2013 1:29 pm

What can happen if you have Radials on a 1500?
I just finished a 1,900 mile ride with a new radial on the front and a radial with about 6,000 miles on it, on the rear.

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Re: bias or radial

Postby Fiberthree » Fri May 31, 2013 7:43 pm

Thats a good question because the 1800 has radials. I know I wouldn't mix them on the bike, but would there be any adverse effects from running them? There isn't a lot of clearance for wider tires with the swing arm so I wonder if the flexibility is an issue there.
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Re: bias or radial

Postby themainviking » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:20 am

My personal opinion is that it would make no adverse difference. When I had Harleys, they all came with bias ply tires, and on top of that they were sort of squarish. Cornering at high speed always got a bit of a wobble. When I rebuilt my 1974 (total frame up rebuild in 1987) I put Michelin radials on the bike, and obtained a handling characteristic that I had never seen before in a bike. (limited brand experience you understand) Now, never having had actual round bias ply tires meant that I had come up two changes from the tires on the bike. I never had issues with the Michelin Radials. As long as you run front and back the same, I don't see where it would be a problem. That said, there is lots that I do not know, so I could be totally out to lunch on this. I can only relate my own experience. I do not have any studies or tests to prove conclusively that the foregoing should always be so. (someone here - cannot remember who - is always asking for test and study data to back up every little thing)
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Re: bias or radial

Postby minimac » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:41 pm

Last year I went with an Austone on the rear of my bike. Being that it is a radial, I thought it only logical to try a radial on the front also, even though you can run it with a bias tire in front. I put on an ExcedraMax radial. The improvement in handling was unreal! The grip in the wet was unbelievable. There's no reason to expect any less of an improvement using radial bike tires.

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Re: bias or radial

Postby mtn_boy1 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:28 am

OK now I'm worried. I had to go to PA this weekend, so while I was there , I went to Hersey and stopped by Universal Tire and picked up my Austone Taxi Tire. I hadn't planned on putting a Radial on my front. Has anyone had any adverse actions from running a radial on the back and a bias ply on the front?
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Re: bias or radial

Postby minimac » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:36 am

There are plenty of people running the Austone with a bias front. The sidewalls on the taxi tire are stiff- not like a regular radial. I ran that way for about two months before I changed my front tire and there wasn't any adverse change in handling.

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Re: bias or radial

Postby mtn_boy1 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:13 pm

Thanks minimac. I had been reading a lot about the Austone but, I couldn't remember anyone saying they had trouble with running the different types together.
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Re: bias or radial

Postby RoadRogue » Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:34 pm

I am running the Austone radial on the rear and an Avon Venom bias up front. I have no problems with handling.
I believe that there was no such thing as radial bike tires when the 1500 was designed so that's why everyone says it was designed for bias tires. 8-)
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Re: bias or radial

Postby Fiberthree » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:17 pm

Pardon me if I am opening Pandora's box, but...

Comparing a motorcycle radial radial on the rear with a morotcycle bias on the front doesn't seem the same as comparing a car radial on the rear with a motorcycle bias on the front. The car radial has more of a square profile and less contact patch on the ground when you lean into a turn.
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Re: bias or radial

Postby RoadRogue » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:21 am

Fiberthree wrote:Pardon me if I am opening Pandora's box, but...

Comparing a motorcycle radial radial on the rear with a morotcycle bias on the front doesn't seem the same as comparing a car radial on the rear with a motorcycle bias on the front. The car radial has more of a square profile and less contact patch on the ground when you lean into a turn.



I know what you mean, its not a fair comparison. What you are mistaken on though is the car tire actually has more tread on the road than the bike tire does, even leaned over all the way and scraping pegs on my 1500 . Let the games begin.... 8-)
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Re: bias or radial

Postby fuzzydog » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:49 pm

OK I'm told the Dunlap Elite 3 was a good tire for the front of my 1500 but when I went to get one they say they don't make it in my size I can get a Elite but the 3 is that a Good one

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Re: bias or radial

Postby Fiberthree » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:01 pm

Dunlop doesn't make an E3 radial in our size for the front of the 1500. You can get the bias ply.

http://wingstuff.com/products/2848-dunl ... 1500-tires

I am on my third set of E3's now. Maybe the guy that told you that didn't have it in stock or didn't know.


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