hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help


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triax01
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hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby triax01 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:32 pm



hi all
first let me start by saying this is truly a great site.

i am new to gold wings, i just bought a 1982 honda GL1100 two weeks aga and i love it .
my problem is this ......

i was getting a low speed bounce from my front so i took my bike to a local bike shop, they told me that my front tire was no longer any good and that it was cupping and cracking so i told them to order me new rubber for the front.

well i went to pick up the wheel and rubber today and they told me that my wheel is a bit warped they already had the new rubber on the wheel when i got there, no phone calls to let me know of the wheel problem before hand, so from that point i guess i just bought the new rubber because they already had it installed on the wheel, i paid them the money for the rubber and took it home to install it on my bike.

the shop put on a battlax bt 45 r on the wheel, i was looking at the side walls and noticed that it is a rear tire, i think that this rubber is ok on the front if it is reversed. is this true, and how do i know if it is reversed or not ?

any help would be great

cheers and keep the rubber side down



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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby Oddbirdwithbrokewing » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:32 am

I would look at this as a great opportunity to get your money back and spend it at a reputable business for an un-warped
wheel and the correct tire.

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Postby dingdong » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:50 am

All motorcycle tires have direction of rotation arrows. The BT 45 r is a radial tire and shouldn't be on there anyway reversed or not. You need to take it back, get your money and run as fast as you can never to return.
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby Kalamata » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:01 am

I second Oddbirdwithbrokewing and dingdong. Get your money back and spend it on a good wheel and run as far away from that shop to never come back.
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby bustedwing » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:54 am

Unfortunately someone seen a chance to take advantage of an inexperience rider. I wholeheartely agree with what has been stated already, take the parts back get your money back and do not return to a place that will take advantage anybody. They basically raped you and should have known better.
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby triax01 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:57 am

thanks everyone

i will be taking the tire and getting my money back from him today and i will be buying new tires elsewhere, i think i will stay with the same that the bike had to begin with ....dunlop 491 elite 2

cheers

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby Oddbirdwithbrokewing » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:30 am

That's great. I haven't had any experience with the dunlop 491 elite 2 but appears to be a good choice. And I am not sure what a "bit warped" means in regards to your wheel but if it is warped, I would suggest that you replace it for your safety. I wish you well.

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby trike lady » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:41 pm

A good bike shop will take the wheel and place it on a 'Truing Stand' and check for any problems.
Like they all stated get your money and get away from that shop.
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Postby WA9FWT » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:53 pm

Once again how sad to read a experience like this. Now is the time to also think about installing
( Dyna-Beads ) in that new tire. If you are not familiar with the Dyna Beads, do a little search explaining what they are and what they can do for you. Good Luck! :)

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby triax01 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:24 pm

thanks to everyone for their input

well i took the wheel and rim back to the bike shop,,,
he told me that the new tire is rated higher than my old tire and that all he had to do was to reverse the direction and that honda had confirmed that it would be fine to ride . i asked the shop to see my old wheel, and i checked the load on it (341kg / 761 lbs) , the new tire was rated at approx. 300kg. i told him to take off the new and put back on my old at no charge and a full refund. he did what i asked and i walked out the door , never to return to that shop again!

thanks everyone
cheers

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby bustedwing » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:35 pm

Great. I had a 491 on a 1200 and got excellent mileage out of it.I am very happy you got your money back and they didn't give you too much guff about it. Hopefully you can find a decent shop in your area you can trust.
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby triax01 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:50 pm

update

well i got the old rubber back on the wing , torqued everything down as per specs, said my prayers and took her for a rip , brought the bike up slowly to 45 k no bounce , took her up to 80 and still no bounce.
i did let go of the bars at around 50k but i still got some wobble hence the rim problem i was talking about before, at this point i am very happy now i just have to get the rim repaired and some proper rubber and im good to go

cheers!

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby RoadRogue » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:14 am

First I must say welcome to the forum, we can never have too many Canucks around here. That wobble you feel when you take your hands off the bars is on a lot of goldwings. Check your steering head bearings for proper tightness and smoothness. It doesn't mean that your rim is bent but yours may still be. When it is time for new tires for your 1100 there are a lot of us on this forum that have gone with the Avon VenomX tires, myself included. They are a long wearing, good grip even in the rain, quiet tire. You can order them from http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/
You can mount your own tires easily enough and balancing can be done by installing Dynabeads.
Could you please edit your profile to include the town you are in. Canada is a very big place after all, beside you may find there is a member close by. 8-)
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby minimac » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:25 am

There are a lot of different things that cause the shake. Besides the steering head bearings(torque and wear) an often overlooked area is the fork oil. It needs to be changed and accurately measured to assure proper operation. I also agree with the use of Dyna beads. They will help even a slightly bent wheel and an out of round tire.

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby Kalamata » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:25 pm

triax01,

Here is a little trick that I picked up when I used to ride bicycles and it may work to confirmed if the wheel is bent. Jack the motorcycle up to the point where you can rotate the front wheel (wheel to be check), get a pencil and tape it to the fork with the tip about to touch the wheel, rotate the wheel and see if it touches at any point. If it touches try to space out the pencil a little bit and rotate the wheel, measure to see how much is the wheel bent. Unfortunately with steel and mag wheels you can't do much unless you take it to a shop that has the needed equipment to correct the problem. With spoke wheels you can try to correct the problem by loosing or adjusting the spokes.
Jose

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:10 am

Well there we go , you are not all that far from me, only about 7hrs. just a nice little putt away. I will be down in your area later this month. PM me your phone number and I will give you a call when I am down there. I can give you my 2 cents worth. If in fact you need a new front wheel I can supply you with one 8-)
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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby johncarlton1978 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:46 am

I have the Dunlop 491 on my 84 gl 1200 and love them

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby buzzer » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:34 am

I have to agree with johncarlton1978. I just put Dunlop 491 Elite II's on my 82 Interstate. Bike Bandit had the best price with free shipping. I bought a set of tire irons and a bead breaker and it turned out to be easier than I thought to put the new tire on. Took me just under 2 hours, but it was well worth it. I put dyna beads in to balance and they are nice and smooth.

johncarlton1978 wrote:I have the Dunlop 491 on my 84 gl 1200 and love them

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Re: hi all Newbee here to GL i need your help

Postby dingdong » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:42 am

The Elite 2 tires are a great tire. I have them on my 76 with 23k miles and probably 5k more to go. Never had a problem. Quiet also unlike the Elite 3s.


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