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neebishis
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NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby neebishis » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:47 pm



The last GW I purchased was a 1980 Vetter equipped 1100....great bike...we traveled many miles touring with her. I haven't owned a bike since the early '90's, but I've got the bug again (never thought this would happen). I'm looking at a 87 Interstate 1200 w/23,000 miles.....looks and runs very well. I'm also considering an '88 1500...also very nice w/55,000 miles on it. I don't consider mileage to be a factor on either one of these. I realize that personal preference will vary widely, but I sure would appreciate a few words of wisdom from you people who have either owned both, or at least are well versed as to which would make me the better bike. Reliability of course is my top priority, with some input on bugs in either of these and your likes and dislikes woud be important as well as the comfort factor. I'm sure they both will be a long ways from my 1100. We most likely won't do any long haul traveling.....we're in our 70's...... just 2 lane secondary roads to enjoy the countryside.

If you could take a few minutes and steer me the right way .......well, I'd sure appreciated it!!!!

Thanks Guys................

Ken Dykstra
Jenison mi.



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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby waituntilthebeep » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:52 pm

I can't say much for the 87 but I do own an 89 (basically the same unit as the 88) and I love it to death! The 88's had a carb issue that many had addressed way back when but there are a few still floating around that have not. As far as "bugs", I don't know of many with the 89. There are some common fail items but it's not like "you'd better watch out for this or that because it will go wrong". Maintenance is the key... make sure it looks and acts like it has been properly maintained. I bought my 89 gl1500 with 103,000 miles on it and I plan to put another 100k on her before her retirement. I am sure it will be an easy 100k to accomplish because it is such a Cadillac to drive.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:06 pm

All and all either one are fine machines.
The 1200 has known possible charging issues..The 88 has known carb issues.
Either could have been solved by the previous owner.
Driving the 1500 can tell how it runs,the 1200 would need inspection of the charging system to see if it's up to snuff.

Both are susceptible to the same maintenance needs too.Belts,brakes,tires,etc.

The 1200 seems to be a bit "sporty" compared to the 1500...Not good or bad,just different.

I imagine a 1200 for a single rider(blast off) and the 1500 for 2 up "cruise about".

One point...my wife says that the 1100 just scared the bejeezers out of her...the 1200 was better and the 1500 is the best ride yet...

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby Sagebrush » Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:59 pm

If you're in your 70's and considering a heavy bike like either the 1200 or the 1500 make sure you get the 1500 with reverse. Its not available on the 1200.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby chasrogers » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:59 am

Sagebrush wrote:If you're in your 70's and considering a heavy bike like either the 1200 or the 1500 make sure you get the 1500 with reverse. Its not available on the 1200.

that is the main thing if your in your 70s you will want a bike with reverse even a 1200 is heavy to move back

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby rogmerrill » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:34 am

I have an '83 Aspencade I love,and have ridden 1500's which come across as way too cushy and plush to me. I am 69 and yes, you do have to push hard to back up. Both the 1100's and 1200's have a charging problem as they get older. My '83 melted some of the connectors, but I fixed that with Dave Campbell's kit (http://gl1200harness.tripod.com/). It's designed for the 1200. I had to make some minor adjustments for my 1100: couldn't use the blue wire with my digital dash and there isn't a way to anchor the fuse holder plate so I used 2 30 amp ATC auto fuses instead. It runs fine now.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby wingrider231 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:57 pm

cant go wrong with the 1500, revers is a great plus also the onboard air compressor makes for easy adjustment for solo /duel rider .
have had a 1200 and the electrical issues have left me stranded before. luckly withen 10 miles of home, then upgraded to a 97 1500 with 120k on it and have put 23k on it in 3 years, no major problems, wife like the ride of the 1500 much better plan on keeping it for many more years. hope info helpful.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby bjatwood » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:32 am

The 1500 is the bike you will want to look at the hardest. It is absolutley the smoothest, best cruising bike I have ever rode.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby skier » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:02 pm

My '87 1200I is a great running bike, all the typical 1200 problems have been addressed by me or previous owners and I like the big but sporty feel. The 1500 would likely be easier to get parts for, and is a step up in the evolution of the GWs. All other things being equal, get the 1500.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby twostrokes48 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:49 am

I agree with the 1500 choice. I have had the 1000, the 1200 and the 1500. The 1000 a blast for solo riding, the 1200 was fine for both solo and 2 up. I had the charging problem the burned out the stator....a car alternator conversion fixed that issue. BUT, after riding the 1500 with reverse, the 1200 was quickly sold.

In your age bracket, you might also really consider a triked wing. Either a full conversion if you have the dough, or something like a tow-pac. I have now had both. The wife really pushed me to get the second one. The first was totaled. The first was a full conversion, the 2nd is the tow-pac.....The full conversion rides a lot better to me but I can live with the other at about a $6K savings in price. I will keep a 2 wheeler for my solo riding also. I have a 75 I am in the middle of a restore, if I ever get back to working on it.

A third option is the landing gear set up....I won't go into that, but if you are interested, I can fill you in on those also, as I have one on a 98, just PM me and I'll give you the skinny.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby bill jamison » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:31 am

I have had the 1100 and 1500 and agree that the 1500 is a nice ride. I sm 75 and now have an 1800 trike and LOVE it. It is much easier to handle in gravel and backing up for an old guy.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby neebishis » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:10 pm

Gentlemen.....I really want to thank you for your replies!!!! You have more than convinced me that a 1500 with reverse is my only way to go. I was hot on the track of a 94 Interstate this week only to realize that it does not include reverse. Darn....in 1980 the Interstate was the top of the heap.....now its the Spartan model. I've now learned about a trike with the lower cost option.....I'm checking it out.

AGAIN..YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN ME A BOATLOAD OF WISE INFORMATION HERE, AND I SURELY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP!!!!

Ken

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby rogmerrill » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:10 pm

I think all 1500's have reverse. It works off the starter.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby twostrokes48 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Negative on "ALL" 1500 wings having starters. There were a few strip down models sold without starter setup.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:33 pm

twostrokes48 wrote:Negative on "ALL" 1500 wings having starters. There were a few strip down models sold without starter setup.


Correct. And it cannot be added on after the fact.

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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby Spook1800 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:58 pm

I have two Wings, a 20th anniversary 1500 a 30th anniversary 1800. I have just spent nearly $4K ransom retrieving the 1500 from the repairers after the consequences of stripping the starter driven gear on the rear of the engine and further damage down below. Now I am thinking that maybe I would like to trike one of these machines as I'm suffering from the results of 2 knee replacements and I'm not bgetting any younger, as are none of us. Any input is appreciated, cheeky or otherwise.
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Re: NEED SOME WISDOM FROM YOU LONG TIME GW'ERS

Postby twostrokes48 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:20 pm

To me there is nothing wrong with shifting to a trike if it keeps you safe. That's why I went to one for riding two up.

Now since you are just a little on the down under side.....I am sure cost is a big factor be it to go with a full conversion, or with something like a tow-pac. After calculating the cost of either way, then look around and see what is available on the market trike wise and go from there. Sometimes you can get a decent deal on a trike, cuz someone got one and decided it wasn't for them, because of no lean or they just don't like the ride.

Now you know more about your bikes than you would someone elses so again, you would have to take that into consideration.

For me, I have a great 98 1500 with low miles. But I choose to sell it and buy a 94 with a tow-pac and matching trailer with high miles but appears in excellent shape, had just had a full dealership service and check over and was at a good price. But that was my decision and may not be the same as someone else.




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