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oil change.

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:39 am



Ok, let's open that can of worms. LOL. Everyone has their preference on motor oils, and I would love to hear what you guys are putting in your GL 1500. Mine is a 1990 with 83,000 on the clock. I have heard about Rotella T6, 5W40, Rotella 15W40 and 20W50 Diesel. I have heard of Mobil1, and others. In bikes in the past, I have just put in whatever. Usually after a couple of years I get rid of them and move up to a different bike. Now I have the Wing. I plan on keeping this bike for a very long time and want to pamper it. So lets have some suggestions here and see where this goes. I love the website, there are a lot of guys with a lot of experience, and look forward to all of your recommendations, good or bad.



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Re: oil change.

Postby MikeB » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:47 am

Use the full synthetic oil of your choice.

Change the oil at the interval of your choice.

Honda specifies every 8k miles.
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Re: oil change.

Postby artgrantz » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:52 am

I sold my 1500 with 175,000 trouble free miles. The only oil I ever put in it was Mobil 1.

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Re: oil change.

Postby cbx4evr » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:22 am

"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: oil change.

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:39 am

LOL. Extra Virgin Motor Oil. I like that.

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Re: oil change.

Postby silverado6x6 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:49 pm

For a water cooled engine the Rotella T6 5-40 synthetic is your best value. If for extreme summer riding I would go half with Amsoil motorcycle 20-50.
I do use pure 10-40 Amsoil in my newer bikes, and I change every 2,000 miles.
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Re: oil change.

Postby peppilepew » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:33 pm

Oils have been a topic of heated discussions. Harleys have separate reservoirs for different types of oil. We all know our wings use 1 lubricant for everything. Many oils contain moly that can and has degraded clutch discs. Someone is lying about their oil content. I just don't know who! :shock:

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Re: oil change.

Postby Maddogg » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:02 pm

Does the Rotella T-6 have Moly in it?

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Re: oil change.

Postby silverado6x6 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:42 am

Rotella is safe to use, if it has any its of such a small amount its only detected by a fine scale analysis . Its JASO-MA rated, thats the Japanese lubrication standards for motorcycles.
Rotella T1 is single grade base crude stock, T5 is multi grade base crude stock, T6 is multigrade synthetic.

Diesel engine oils have a higher percentage of key minerals such as zinc which are desirable for oil shear when used in gearing. Remember this applies to engine/transmission shared oil.

Take a stroll through this forum, it may answer your questions and also illuminate certain marketing hoaxes such as about moly, synthetics and such.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm
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Re: oil change.

Postby jerryd15 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:15 am

I guess the moly is what makes the high effiency oil that my GL1800 book says to stay away from? Is Mobile 1 safe for the 1800??

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Re: oil change.

Postby peppilepew » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:28 am

jerryd15 wrote:I guess the moly is what makes the high effiency oil that my GL1800 book says to stay away from? Is Mobile 1 safe for the 1800??

People use mobil1 and claim perfect clutch operation after years of use. I used regular oil for 2 changes in my 15 and am detecting minor slippage in 3rd under extreme loads. One would think being in the transmission bushiness I would know better. I never checked the bottle for moly content. It apparently had quite a bit. There is a grade of mobil1 that doesn't have moly in it.

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Re: oil change.

Postby amsoilguy » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:43 pm

The frictional characteristics for JASO and ISO wet-clutch compatibility standards have four categories: JASO MB, MA, MA1, MA2 and ISO L-EMB, L-EMA, L-EMA1 and L-EMA2. Oils falling into the MB (L-EMB) category offer minimal wet-clutch performance, while MA2 (L-EMA2) fluids offer the best performance to help prevent clutch plate slippage. An oil for motorcycle wet-clutch applications should be free of additives such as friction modifiers that can dramatically alter the dynamic and static frictional properties of the clutch and result in clutch plate slippage.
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Re: oil change.

Postby Happytrails » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:20 pm

LoL nice CBX... thanks for the good laugh. All the oil options were intrigueing and I read a lot of stuff on the net about people running Rotell and Mobil1. In the end I went with AMSoil 10w-30 Synthentic motorcycle oil but maybe I should be running 10w-40?
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Re: oil change.

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:50 am

Happytrails wrote:LoL nice CBX... thanks for the good laugh. All the oil options were intrigueing and I read a lot of stuff on the net about people running Rotell and Mobil1. In the end I went with AMSoil 10w-30 Synthentic motorcycle oil but maybe I should be running 10w-40?


I would not be running 30 weight oil when your bike calls for 40 weight oil - there simply won't be enough lubrication, particularly when hot.

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Re: oil change.

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:56 am

Personally I use Rotella T6. I know a lot of farmers that use the same in their machines.

It was once explained to me along these lines. A normally operating gasoline engine uses about half of it's power output most of the time. A Diesel engine in tractors and other heavy equipment is using close to 90% of it's power output most of the time. Why not use an oil that's going to stand up in that environment??, especially since it also has JASO certification too.
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Re: oil change.

Postby peppilepew » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:05 am

cbx4evr wrote:Personally I use Rotella T6. I know a lot of farmers that use the same in their machines.

It was once explained to me along these lines. A normally operating gasoline engine uses about half of it's power output most of the time. A Diesel engine in tractors and other heavy equipment is using close to 90% of it's power output most of the time. Why not use an oil that's going to stand up in that environment??, especially since it also has JASO certification too.


Very good CBX. Here are the specs to back it up.

http://www.oilspecifications.org/jaso.php

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Re: oil change.

Postby jerryd15 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:51 am

Lots of good info thanks

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Re: oil change.

Postby seabeechief » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:42 pm

I find it less complicated to change my oil every 5k miles using Honda Synthetic 10/30 oil and a Honda oil filter. $50 for factory products every 5k is not too expensive for me. Hell, I already save enough money on Harley T-Shirts to make my Wing payment. So, it's basically a free motorcycle and all I have to do is change the oil. It's not complicated.

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Re: oil change.

Postby peppilepew » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:04 pm

seabeechief wrote:I find it less complicated to change my oil every 5k miles using Honda Synthetic 10/30 oil and a Honda oil filter. $50 for factory products every 5k is not too expensive for me. Hell, I already save enough money on Harley T-Shirts to make my Wing payment. So, it's basically a free motorcycle and all I have to do is change the oil. It's not complicated.

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Re: oil change.

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:28 am

Rotella T6 for me.Used to use the Rotella Dino oil with good luck also in previous Wings.


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