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What do you think of GWRRA?

I like it fine the way things are, they're going in the right direction
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7%
Wing World is one big advertisement
101
17%
Wing Ding is a huge money grab
90
15%
I'm not a member, and don't care to be
58
10%
I appreciate the ads in Wing World, I like seeing products that are available for my bike
81
14%
I can't stand all the expanding trike coverage in Wing World
56
9%
I won't be renewing my membership
39
7%
I love my local chapter, that's what it's all about
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13%
I look forward to Wing Ding all year
12
2%
I'm only a member for the Gold Book/Rescue Plus
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7%
 
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GWRRA Members ???

Postby Sally » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:48 pm



I hope not to ruffle feathers but I have a question. I understand how it works and they need funds BUT has anyone eles noticed that wing world has just become one big ad. Every page is 1/2 or at least 1/4 page ad.Pull out an old issue 5 years ago even not that way. I'm think of dropping my member ship or am I going to far ? Not really happy with the magazine anymore. Sally :cry:



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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:43 pm

Yeah, I have to say I'm not super thrilled with GWRRA. What's not advertising is articles promoting next year's Wing Ding - starting the month after the previous year's was over.

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Postby Ghostman » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:41 pm

How about the fact you join an organization where the members have no voice in the way its run. And the fact he shut down TRI to put the members into GWWRRA to bolster its sagging numbers. Its an overpriced business.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby cbx4evr » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:16 am

For me it's not only about WingWorld magazine although I would agree that the quality has gone down since I first joined 4 years ago. Advertising pays the bills so I can't see them getting away from that. I'm not crazy about 1/2 the magazine being about trikes but then maybe that's what the bulk of the membership rides these days. Also agree about the WingDing advertising. Takes up far too many pages but again it's a money maker and these days money talks.

For us we enjoy the events at the local Chapter level. We have met some great people and made many friends through our Chapter association. That is our main reason for staying on. Membership does have it's benefits too. We've probably saved our membership dues and more using the GWRRA hotel services.
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Postby crock4 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:34 am

I do not belong to the local chapter. I prefer to ride alone, or with one or two other friends. I may reconsider when I retire on a limited basis, but am really not able to afford a lot of the functions they get into, including wing ding.

I really am not thrilled with the whole "NEW" look. With one exception. The workbench section was expanded quite a bit. I must have been asleep when they changed editors. It was a complete surprise. I also think the amount of wing ding coverage is excessive. I too am thinking about giving up my membership. I do enjoy the magazine though, just not the direction it seems to be going.
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Postby themainviking » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:45 am

At chapter level, some are active and quite enjoyable. If you like group riding and having friends to ride with and are willing to wait for someone to organize a ride, or organize it yourself (participate) and if you like the other people in the chapter, then that would be a reason to have a membership in the GWRRA. I tried the chapter thing, but our chapter here is pretty stagnant, or busy raising money for things that I have no wish to raise money for. So, I left the chapter scene. Now I feel like Sally does. If it is only for the magazine, then it seems a bit overpriced. I do like Stu Oltman's corner of the magazine, but he seldom has anything that is not mostly common sense to write about, because, if whoever writes him is knowledgeable enough to have hit on a large problem, they are probably also knowledgeable enough to not have had to write. Mostly it is getting to be the same old stuff from people who are hard pressed to change their oil independently. Once in a while I get a "Wow, that is good to know" out of his column. Other than that, yes, GWRRA is really about making money - for whom, I do not know - as everyone is supposed to be a volunteer. Like Sally, when my membership comes due, I probably will not renew. I have been to some Michigan events tho and they seem to have it going on over there. Here it seems it is all infighting over who runs things, or who should. I hate to mention this, but men are not so amenable to taking orders from bossy women, and that, it seems, is the whole difficulty when voluntary offices of responsibility are held by couples. The only couples who want to hold said offices are control freaks.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby vtxcandyred » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:20 am

Sally wrote:I hope not to ruffle feathers but I have a question. I understand how it works and they need funds BUT has anyone eles noticed that wing world has just become one big ad. Every page is 1/2 or at least 1/4 page ad.Pull out an old issue 5 years ago even not that way. I'm think of dropping my member ship or am I going to far ? Not really happy with the magazine anymore. Sally :cry:

I let mine lapse. What a waste!!!!

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Postby Sally » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:27 am

You guys said everything I wanted too.I just didn't want to hit a nevre with any one. I also think I'm done . Maybe I'm not old enough to enjoy all the trike reading and all the ads. In just five short years they recked it for me. I'm also SICK of wing ding crap. I ride alone mostly and take a trip a year with another friend for a couple days works best for me. Thanks for your guys input it made my decussion easier. Sally :x :( :? :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: OUT

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Postby CaptLen » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:40 pm

I'm a new rider compared to you folks. I'm all of 3 months into Goldwing ownership, so for me the Stu Oltman column is interesting reading, the 'Rescue Plus' is a good deal, my local chapter hasn't let me know when or where they meet so, sadly, I'm probably not going to find out too much about what it's like to be involved with a chapter, and the advertising has at least alerted me to companies that have Goldwing stuff available. We'll see what the future holds.

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Postby NKYWinger » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:22 pm

Our Chapter (KY-G) must be different than a lot of yours, I guess. We usually average 75 at a meeting and do rides on a regular basis, including regular trips out west and Alaska every other year. We do camping trips almost every month during riding season.
I hafta say, however, I agree about the ads for WingDing...wowzers there are a lot.
For us as well, it's all about the local Chapter.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby yamaha96 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:19 am

Sally, i agree with you there is very little info to read in the magazine anymore, all about selling something new to us, i have only been a Goldwing owner for a couple of years, love the ride of the 1500 never rode any other wings, my friend Larry has an 1800 he just loves it, rides to work almost every day, back to the magazine it will have to get better before i sign up , just my thoughts, Mike.

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby Fatwing Chris » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:36 am

NKYWinger wrote:Our Chapter (KY-G) must be different than a lot of yours, I guess. We usually average 75 at a meeting and do rides on a regular basis, including regular trips out west and Alaska every other year. We do camping trips almost every month during riding season.
I hafta say, however, I agree about the ads for WingDing...wowzers there are a lot.
For us as well, it's all about the local Chapter.


You must have an exceptional chapter.A lot of GWRRA members will actually turn their nose up to you if you're not riding the latest and greatest Wing built.I'm sure it would have to be the 12/13 model these days.I was a member back in the early 90's and did the Wing Ding thing(was expensive way back then even with a membership)and doubt I would ever do it again.Goldbook is a good resource,but there are similar things out there that don't require a paid membership to get.Don't know much about their Roadside assistance,but it sounds pretty good and so do the discounts on different stuff.Don't think I'd ever join up again,but then I'm not into group riding much anyway.

PS I posted a question on another forum about a non member using the Goldbook in an emergency.Not that I would because like I said I have similar resources)Some of the members freaked
thinking that I was just out to get something for nothing that they had to pay for.Others said that member or not you're still a broken down biker and they would do anything they could to help.Some said they acutally give their old books to their non-member buddies.
My buddy is a member and he knew the wife and I were heading to the States by ourselves(2-up)so he gave us his year old book just in case.I posted this question after we got back and with so much opposition to me using it I took it right out to the burn barrel.I'm on a lot of forums and anybody that knows me knows I'm not a mooch and have gone out of my way to help other members.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby Ghostman » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:51 am

CaptLen wrote:I'm a new rider compared to you folks. I'm all of 3 months into Goldwing ownership, so for me the Stu Oltman column is interesting reading, the 'Rescue Plus' is a good deal, my local chapter hasn't let me know when or where they meet so, sadly, I'm probably not going to find out too much about what it's like to be involved with a chapter, and the advertising has at least alerted me to companies that have Goldwing stuff available. We'll see what the future holds.


Here if you want this will give you a broader spectrum to work with and you wont need to subscribe to GWRRA for your fix.

http://www.ridetwisties.com/mike2.htm

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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby Spook1800 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:17 am

vtxcandyred wrote:
Sally wrote:I hope not to ruffle feathers but I have a question. I understand how it works and they need funds BUT has anyone eles noticed that wing world has just become one big ad. Every page is 1/2 or at least 1/4 page ad.Pull out an old issue 5 years ago even not that way. I'm think of dropping my member ship or am I going to far ? Not really happy with the magazine anymore. Sally :cry:

I let mine lapse. What a waste!!!!

+1. Same here.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby dingdong » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:39 am

Not a member and never have been. The only reference I have to GWRRA is the riders I meet while on the road. I hear all the time about Harley riders not being sociable to the "other brand" bikers but the members of GWRRA I have tried to talk to won't give you the time of day when they find out you aren't a member. Is there a secret handshake or what? :lol: This is especially true of the 1800 riders. Can't figure out what their problem is.
I don't need their snooty attitude. I get all the information I need from this site and a couple of the other forums. I also would rather do my own thing and ride at my own pace.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby Fatwing Chris » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:40 am

I wonder if the 2nd Gen 1800 riders will wave to the 1st Gen 1800 riders.
I still wave to everyone and if you're not all for waving back then my wave seems to transform into a one finger salute over my left shoulder.Nobody's that important.
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Postby Sally » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:08 pm

Well guys I ride an 1800 and I'll wave to anyone. It burns my *ss when someone can't wave..And I don't want to be labled as a above and better than me rider. Were all in the same boat riding because we love it and enjoy it I don't want someone better than me to wreck that. I agree I don't need to be a member any place to ride I also like to ride alone main reason for being a gwrra member was for the magazine only don't care about the local chapters. Their to old for me anyways. RIDE ON MY FRIENDS :lol: :lol: Sally

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Postby Fiberthree » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:25 pm

Spook1800 wrote:
vtxcandyred wrote:
Sally wrote:I hope not to ruffle feathers but I have a question. I understand how it works and they need funds BUT has anyone eles noticed that wing world has just become one big ad. Every page is 1/2 or at least 1/4 page ad.Pull out an old issue 5 years ago even not that way. I'm think of dropping my member ship or am I going to far ? Not really happy with the magazine anymore. Sally :cry:

I let mine lapse. What a waste!!!!

+1. Same here.


+1. But it was back in '79! I joined and NEVER was contacted by anyone except to remind me to pay the dues.


Sally wrote:Well guys I ride an 1800 and I'll wave to anyone. It burns my *ss when someone can't wave..


I wave back when I see them. Does that count?
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Postby GreenDragon » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:49 pm

We gave up our membership a couple years ago. The few in our chapter that rode only rode from breakfast to lunch with about an hour in between. The Gold Book was the only reason we stayed in as ling as we did. When GWRRA started charging for the leadership (mandatory for officers) no one would take it over and most left the chapter. I ride 2 to 3 days a week with groups and my wife and I travel a good bit on the wing. Don't need GWFFA (gold wing food finders association).
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby bstig60 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:34 am

I am not a member and am relatively new to Gold Wings, but I am a long time AMA member and enjoy their mag and the road side assistance is a plus for sure. I prefer to ride alone. I can go when and where I want. But it would be nice to have someone to ride with once in a while. I am planning a tour around the US for next summer. Supposed to have two guys going with me, but past experience that most people will chicken out half way thru the trip and want to go home. The security of company on a ride is nice, but the associated problems aren't any fun.
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Postby Wingsconsin » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:57 pm

Ihave been a memeber for th epast 10 years. For the most part I joined to gain access to the forum message board. back in the early for me days it was quite an active forum with 100's of members chiming in, and lots of get togethers pf the forum users. Good technical data, and fun people...

Then the political scene turned quite contentious and the argueing on the board got heated and troublesome. The board changed and the administration was forced to heavy handedly stop the bickering, and fighteing that was so divisive. Many people got angry over the method in whcih it was handled so they left. Then a couple years later another dust up over some charity fund rasising coused another stir (at which time I stopped using the forum). They lost more members of the message forum then as well..

Now the message board is a shadow of it's former glory...and many other boards are flourishing at the same time..The 'free' boards are doing well.like this one, the Steve Saunders site, the GL1800 riders, etc.

The Chapter life is not for everyone, especially as GWRRA had to change policy to preserve tax exemption. Now the meetings focus on education (supposedly) and the rallys are known as conventions. People who used to ride are too old, the new members are choosing other places with less rules and restrictions.

Change is constant. My membsership at GWRRA expires in 2016. Wing Ding is in Wisconsin in 2014 about 1 hour from me so I will go.
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby bjatwood » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:40 am

Never been a member. Can get most of ALL the information I need here and over at Saunders forum. Am not into group rides and such, as we have more than enough friends and family that ride to be as active as we want to be...have looked at the GWRRA site with a month long pass from Stu Oltman the technical writer. He sent me some stock driver foot pegs when I ditched my heel-to-toe shifter. He wouldn't even take any money for shipping!

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Postby cquestguy » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:41 am

Well I must be different. Only had my Wing for a few months now and became a member right afterward. I joined because a friend I worked with encouraged me to join his chapter. I was contacted by another chapter nearer my home buy I declined because of my relationship I already had with my friend from the other chapter. They still were gracious and asked me to come for a visit or a ride. The chapter I joined has about 50 people show at the monthly meeting and are great people to hang out with. In the 4 months I have been a member we have gone on 4 day trips, a number of dinner rides in the evenings, and a three day trip in the mountains. Also went on our chapter picnic that was a lot of fun. We also do community service when we can and other things.

I guess my chapter must be one of the better ones and I am proud to be a member!

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Postby NKYWinger » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:49 pm

^^^^I'm with you! Our Chapter is active, on the go, and great on trips. :D
I, also, am glad to be a member......
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Re: GWRRA Members ???

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:17 pm

I'm adding a poll to this topic, just to try to gauge what people think on a more anonymous basis. You can vote here: GWRRA Poll. Select as many options as you think apply to you.




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