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New Honda NM4

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:32 pm



Now this is one cool looking bike. It's a concept bike that they are putting into production!

Honda NM4 in White
Honda NM4 in White


March 21, 2014 - Honda held its press conference at the 30th Osaka Motorcycle Show 2014 today and unveiled the world premiere of two types of its new production model "NM4" as an exhibition model (planned for production).

The NM4 was developed under the keywords of "the Neo-futuristic" and "COOL," pursuing new, unique styling.

This NM4 was designed to realize two points; the design concept "the Front Massive Styling" and "the cockpit position" focusing on the sense of unity with the rider, that the rider can smoothly get into the vehicle. The low-setup cockpit position and adjustable backrest provide an enjoyable new riding feel. The instrument panel was designed to provide clear readability and the fun riding, as if the rider was experiencing part of a movie scene.

LED lamps are used on the headlight of the powerful-looking front fairing, the tail lamp and the turn signals. In addition, the utility boxes are set up on the right and left sides of the front fairing for small articles.

Two NM4 types were unveiled at the motorcycle show; the simply-configured "NM4-01" which emphasizes its wide, dynamic rear tire and attractive low silhouette, and the "NM4-02” which emanates a unique presence and features a prominent rear design (containing utility boxes on each side of the rear body).

The NM4 will also be exhibited at the 41st Tokyo Motorcycle Show from Friday, March 28 to Sunday, March 30 at Tokyo Big Sight.

Honda NM4 in Black
Honda NM4 in Black


Length×Width×Height (inches): 93.7 x 31.9 x 46.0
Seat Height: 26.5 inches
Engine Type: Liquid-cooled 4-stroke OHC inline 2-cylinder engine
Displacement (cc): 745
Transmission: Dual Clutch Transmission (standard equipment)
Tires Front: 120/70ZR18M/C (59W)
Rear: 200/50ZR17M/C (75W)



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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:42 pm

Doesn't do anything for me. It's butt ugly IMO.
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby thrasherg » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:45 pm

cbx4evr wrote:Doesn't do anything for me. It's butt ugly IMO.


That makes 2 of us!! Can't see the interest.. :oops:

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby Mag » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:47 pm

I would not say "butt ugly" but pretty close. I would like to see it with a rider on it to see the sitting position. The bike would probably look better without the "backrest" sticking up like that, to keep the back of the bike more "aerodynamic". Interesting a 745cc twin. Hmmm, dunno.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby woodyking » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:36 am

And, though I can live with the looks, it sounds like it has a variable ratio transmission..... the dual clutch sounds a lot like what a golf cart or some mopeds use, the torque convertor/belt drive. Which works great, but I like gears on a real motorcycle. Woody

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:34 am

woodyking wrote:And, though I can live with the looks, it sounds like it has a variable ratio transmission..... the dual clutch sounds a lot like what a golf cart or some mopeds use, the torque convertor/belt drive. Which works great, but I like gears on a real motorcycle. Woody


You're thinking of a CVT, continuously variable transmission. Dual clutch means it has one clutch for odd gears and one clutch for even gears. It allows it to make gear changes almost instantaneously. It does however, unfortunately mean that IT does the shifting for you - you flick a button, and it does the gear change. No more clutch lever or gear shifter pedal. Honda keeps pushing these semi-automatic transmissions on its bikes, I expect in trying to attract more riders who are afraid of shifting gears.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby dingdong » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:15 am

Looking at that backrest.... I wonder if it folds down to seat a passenger??? Looks like a hand grip on it.
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby FM-USA » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:21 am

Butt ugly?
STOP THE HATE people, everyone's tastes are different.
Without evolution we'd still be monkeys and living in trees.

I see good things about it. Scooter comforts and less frontal area for better fuel mileage.
It's a first design, they'll get customer feedback and maybe add some of YOUR butt ugly taste into it.
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby rescue1042 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:45 am

Not sure what i think about it hmmmmm...
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby Mike 545 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:16 am

I'm, almost, afraid to say that I like the NM4. If the ride is good, I'd consider flipping my 2012 GL1800.
Of course, the NM4 would have to have a decent sound system. Does anyone know when
a NM4 will be on a showroom floor?

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby canuckxxx » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:40 am

If you look at pics of recumbent bicycles you can see a real resemblance to this new Honda. You sit back in the seat like a car seat with feet forward. Very low, comfortable and aerodynamic. I like it. Big step forward. Auto trans just the next logical step.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby canuckxxx » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:00 am

This is what I am talking about

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby FM-USA » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:22 am

canuckxxx wrote:This is what I am talking about
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I'd LOVE to get a Bent but the prices,. . . WHOLLY MOLLY!

The price of a comparable normal bike is around $300 and that Bent picture has maybe 33% more materials which would make it around $450-$500. I can't see there asking $2,000+ for it... a trike Bent maybe.
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby Paulcf » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:16 am

Can't argue with Honda trying out new things...so long as they don't screw up our beloved Goldwing!
When I first saw it, I thought it was a leftover bike from the movie "Judge Dredd" or "Dredd" or some other post apocalyptic movie ("Priest").
Today you have crotch rockets, cruisers and tourers, this could be something covering all bases?
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby rvoress » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:23 am

Dan Gurney has been making Alligator motorcycles for years. Look familiar?
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby woodyking » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:00 pm

That's cool. I never heard of him. What is the power plant on his babies? I love the Honda VT700 Shadows, the 1986 and 1987 models in particular, the low seat and comfortable position, along with the great handling make it a all time favorite. This bike kinda looks like that! I do imagine Honda is flirting with the "I can't drive a straight shift" crowd. So if it is electric shift, why don't they say so? Like 5 speed electric shift..... the double clutch or dual clutch thing doesn't make sense to me, and I was a Honda mechanic and fan forever.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby billhane » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:34 pm

it's very butt ugly,really

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby woodyking » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:43 am

The backrest does make a passenger seat! not much of a seat, but for those times when you must have one........ She better be tough and slim.

And, a CVT is a dual clutch, it has the drive clutch and the driven clutch, much more than just a centrifugal clutch.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:55 am

woodyking wrote:The backrest does make a passenger seat! not much of a seat, but for those times when you must have one........ She better be tough and slim.

And, a CVT is a dual clutch, it has the drive clutch and the driven clutch, much more than just a centrifugal clutch.


Yes, it may have two clutches that are used as part of its operation, but it is still normally referred to as a CVT. When a vehicle is referred to as having a dual-clutch transmission, it is normally referring to the type of automated shifting dual clutch transmission as seen in Honda's recent bikes like the NC700. I wouldn't be surprised if this bike's transmission is the same as is used in the NC700.




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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby woodyking » Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:07 am

Another thing to mention, most of us here have owned or ridden a Honda Z50 or CFR 50 or 70, or the old CT70, or Trail 90, I imagine. They all had clutches which were two in one. When you moved the foot shift lever, it had a "ball and ramp" mechanism that pressed the pressure plate and relieved the pressure on the clutch discs. Then when you released the lever, the centrifugal part kicked in. You could hold the foot lever and release it with the engine at higher than idle rpm and you had a manual clutch. With each gear change, both cycles were completed. This system was used on motors up to 200cc I know, and possibly larger, like the ATV and ATC models. I used several of these type engines in projects as they were great to work with, for making go karts and such. No hand operation at all. Some I used were electric start, like the old step through 70cc units. Most of Honda very early models used this clutch system.

I doubt this is anything like what this bike has. I just don't see what the deal is calling it dual clutch and not mention how many gear ratios it has. At least you are still shifting manually, even if with a button. I've ridden some 4 wheelers with electric shift, easy to get used to. We used to put air shifters on drag bikes, that's another world though.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby silverado6x6 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:49 am


I would rather buy the Intercontinental Limited Edition :D
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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby woodyking » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:39 am

I'll take one of those too!!

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby Mike 545 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:39 pm

Excellent, someone else besides me likes this bike.

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Re: New Honda NM4

Postby LloydB » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:45 pm

I don't think it would be for me, looks too much like a Burgman scooter.


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