Frustration - a mild rant


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Frustration - a mild rant

Postby waituntilthebeep » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:04 pm



Hey there all. I commute every day on a ferry across the Puget Sound on my wing to work and I share the ride with anywhere from 5 to 45 riders depending on the weather. For the most part, we ride in a pack until everyone peels off to their destinations. Friday I had a slightly frustrating commute and oddly enough, it was because of some of the other riders. One of the guys I see regularly rides a nice HD dresser. Friday morning he put his bike down at about 45mph and went up and over the edge of a traffic island on his side. This happened because he was not paying attention rolling around a sweeping corner and missed that the guy in front of him had dynamited his brakes at a fast yellow. The rear wheel locked up, he lost control and the paint and chrome on the entire right side of his bike was history. Thank heavens he was wearing his full gear (which a lot of people Ive seen lately don't do) and that saved him from serious injury. There were 4 other guys present when that happened and NOBODY stopped to assist. It was a guy in a cage that jumped in first to assist. Of course he had no idea how to right a bike but at least he tried to be of some sort of help. I was 30 seconds behind the group and I was the only one out of 10 or so guys to stop. WTF people? We are in a 2 wheeled brotherhood regardless of what emblem we ride and I think we at least owe a fellow rider 30 seconds of our time to at least ASK if there is any assistance we can lend. In the end, he rode the bike out... I think his pride was the only thing making that battered beauty go... it was in BAAAAD shape.

Remember who you are. Remember what you are riding. And for craps sake, help a brother out when you can. Karma is a bitch.



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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby Bob Myers » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:33 am

I too have happened upon a bike(in less dire straights) on the side of the road and stopped to attempt helping, while dozens of others ride by. Last case in point, wife and I are out on the wing and cruising unfamiliar territory, about 25 miles from nearest town I see a bike sitting on the shoulder, middle of a uphill(6% grade) in the blazing sun, with smoke coming off of it. We stop and I jump off to try to help, his rear brake is locked and smoking, they are blowing on it, spitting on it, etc. trying to stop the smoke. Took my wife's water bottle and dumped it on the caliper. In the 35 minutes we were there trying to cool and free the brake there were at least 40 bikes that rode by in various groups of 5 or less at a time. My wife counted them!
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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:01 pm

Thoughtless people... Unreal.... in both stories... It's hard to say what someone else thinks.... I would have stopped to help...People in this Country are changing or something....

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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby HALBUDD » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:48 pm

I stop for every bike I see broke down regardless of what type it is. I could be on my bike or in my cager but Ill stop thats why we have tools on our bikes and first aid kits for.I would hope that if I was broke down or injured they would do the same. Of course Im from southern In. so we tend to help others a little more.(no offense meant) ----------------------Hal
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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby harvey01 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:19 am

People lead very busy lives today and most assume that everyone else has a cellphone and some form of roadside assistance they can call. Unfortunately I am old enough that I remember when no one had a cellphone and most did not have any form of roadside assistance and back then you stopped for every motorcyclist beside the road. So I developed a habit of doing this that has lasted a lot of years.

Somewhere we have lost this sense that we are all riders in this together and when someone is stopped they may need help. This is a real shame and I don't know how we fix it.

And from personal experience that help does not always come along the roadside. Last summer the wife and I had ended our days ride at a motel in Massachusetts when I noticed a large pool of oil under my Wing. Actually it was under my front wheel. Well it took me a few minutes to realize I had blown a fork seal. Well I pulled out the Gold Book and picked out a person that I thought might be close to call for some help and advice. Turns out the gentleman I reached had recently quit riding, and sold his bike. But he did put me in touch with a dealer who was able to get my fork seal replaced the next morning and get my wife and I on the road again. So I guess what I am saying is there are still wonderful folks out there who will help.
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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby themainviking » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:38 am

waituntilthebeep wrote:We are in a 2 wheeled brotherhood regardless of what emblem we ride and I think we at least owe a fellow rider 30 seconds of our time to at least ASK if there is any assistance we can lend. Remember who you are. Remember what you are riding. And for craps sake, help a brother out when you can. Karma is a bitch.



I totally agree beep, but here is one for you. A couple of years ago, I was riding my GL1800 back home and saw three Harleys on the opposite side of the road, with one broke down. I stopped to ask if I could help and they said no, they were okay, but one of the guys said, quietly, but I heard him "F*@k off. I knew one of the guys, but he did not realize it was me, so I rode home, jumped on my Harley and headed back. They were still there, and when I offered help, they gladly accepted, and I got the guy back on the road. Then I told Tim, the guy I knew, that it had been me on the other side of the road on the Goldwing and you never know who might help you. The guy who had quietly told me off was a whole lot sheepish about telling me to go away, in his manner, so the point was made. Now, I did that on purpose because he did piss me off. As it was, I could not have helped the guy from my goldwing, as it has metric tools, but it was only fifteen miles home and back. So moral of the story - sometimes people are frustrated and do not want help from a certain demographic, so every case is different.... I still stop and help if I can.
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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:51 am

I will make a point of stopping to check if people need help, regardless. I remember while riding home from work one day, coming up on a rather scary looking guy on the side of I-71, with an older Harley. He had run over a sweatshirt on the highway, it got caught up in his chain, into the rear sprocket, and wound tightly around the rear axle many times to the point that the rear wheel locked up. He was trying to cut it off with a small, dull penknife. I asked if he needed help, and he said he did. Between the two of us, one pushing the bike backward and one pulling and tearing the fabric out of the wheel and sprocket as it unwound, we were able to get it free after about ten minutes of work. Lots of bikes went past, nobody else stopped to help. This guy would have been stranded had someone not stopped to help. I got one of the small towels out that I carry to clean my windshield, and we tried our best to clean the grease and oil off our hands using Pledge and the towel, then he left on his way, after thanking me many times. Nice guy, but you'd probably think twice about approaching him if you saw him in every day life. :)

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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby redial » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:23 pm

You just cannot assess a book by its cover!

However, because I have a crook back, amongst other things, the best that I can do is go to the next village/town to get assistance for them. I dont like leaving the bike alone on the side of the road, as there are those animals who come along and take anything they might need.
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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby roadhawg » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:47 pm

It is a pitiful world when we won't slow down long enough to help our fellow man, whether in an auto or on a bike. Cell phones are a great tool but a terrible friend. I wish the world would begin to realize these phones are ruining our society by separating us from personal interaction. Now we don't even talk to one another we text. The first time my wife and I were on a long trip I was on the side of the Highway checking a map and a fellow biker pulled over in a pickup to see if I needed help. That meant a lot, even though I didn't need help, it was reassuring to know no matter where I go there is a network of people close by if needed. Triple AAA doesn't respond that quickly. :D

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Re: Frustration - a mild rant

Postby waituntilthebeep » Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:39 pm

I can understand mot stopping for someone in a car... because there are so many stories about people holding others up and such. Bike riders are a different people all together for the most part. Most people have cell phones and can get help. I have swung over and stopped for a disabled bike and most of the time, they have a tow or a friend with a truck on the way. At least they have an option. This was not a case like that... a bike was down, the rider was hobbled and it was obvious that he needed assistance. I know people's lives are in a state of hurry and the poor guy didn't really need 20 riders stopped and standing around. Just the courtesy of flipping up the visor, asking if any help is needed and then riding on. 6 riders did nothing before I rolled up on the median and got off my bike to see how he was doing and if assistance was needed. It is what it is I suppose. I guess I took care of the situation and others saw it as handled.

On the note of leaving a bike by the side of the road, I'd rather push it a mile than leave it anywhere on the roadway. Bikes, even Wings, are easy pickings for anyone with a trailer or roll off truck. Happens all the time in Washington.




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