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venetianmilw
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Looking at a bike

Postby venetianmilw » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:50 pm



Hello everyone,

During the next week I will be looking at a Goldwing 1100, Interstate with 32,000 miles on it. The owner told me already that I will need to rebuild the carbs, something I've done already on a 1983 Suzuki GR 650-Tempter a couple of years ago. (The Suzuki has suspension trouble and I can't find some of the parts, they only sold 5000 in the US.) For the time being, the owner told me that he is shutting off the petcock and then the bike starts just fine. He's looking for less than $1000.00 for it.

So, does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be looking at on this bike when I see it? Any idea what I might expect? I was told about the bike by a person I trust would not turn me onto a bad bike.

Thanks for your help!



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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby MJSantos » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:07 am

Actually with that kind of milage it should be in great shape. Shutting off the petcock is pretty much routine. These bikes will drain down into the cylinders and crankcase at the best of times. Rebuilding the carbs is not that hard to to Randaks has a great section on rebuilding the carbs and also has the kits for these. Forkseals might have to be redone and possibly the brakes but again nothing hard. For that price I doubt you can go wrong. If it's running right now and there's no rod knock or excessive smoke, then you have something. Sometimes Seafoam will straighten out the carb problem.

Good luck

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby WA9FWT » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:20 pm

Sure sounds like a good buy.And I'm sure you will be excited when looking at the bike, but I would take along a note pad and ask plenty of questions. Like when was the last time any thing was done.Timing belts, filters, oil change, brakes,etc. you get home and after it's in your garage you wonder what did he say!! Hope you have many a pleasurabe day riding , and welcome to the site from Sheboygan WI.

WA9FWT Phil

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby guitarlos » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:05 am

A good buy? Heck, thats a steal for one at that price with that mileage! THese babies are designed to go easily 400-500 K miles!

Awesome find!

Greetings and welcome from Speedway Indiana!

Rich

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby MikeB » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:37 pm

If you are into restoring old motorcycles and have an excellent source of vintage parts, then it would be a good purchase.

If you are looking at it as your first Goldwing and want to start riding soon, I'd shy away form the GL1100 unless it is in excellent shape and does not need anyting done to it, like rebuilding carbs.

True, the GL1100 was an excellent and FAST Goldwing. One of the fastest ever produced. But parts are hard to find for any vintage bike and since that model was only produced for three years, parts are going to be as scarce as hens teeth. The braking system is really unique on the GL1100 too. I believe each year had a different set up for the rear brakes and the brake valving is different in each year. At least that is what I am told. And yes, hydraulic parts are virtually non-existent for those brake systems.

If you are looking for something that you will be able to get parts for, perhaps a GL1500 would be a better option for you.
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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:01 pm

What you say may be true...but I have never once had any difficulty finding parts of any kind for my GL1100. And you can see the amount of work I've done to it by browsing through the "How To" section. :)

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby MJSantos » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:06 pm

Working on restoring my '83 Interstate I think the hardest parts to locate would be the Brake Cylinder Bodies and maybe the Proportioning Valve if you even need them.

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby Orpheus75 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:42 pm

I agree with wingadmin, I've NEVER had any problems getting parts, but my parts have been minor. If taken care of, these machines should only require very minor, and only routine maintenance.

But even carb rebuild kits can be had just about anywhere. Not cheap, but available.

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby MikeB » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:37 pm

that is excellent. So make sure that you stay in touch with venetianmilw because he may well need your parts hunting expertise.

I agree that if taken care of, these wonderful machines will last a very long time. But you have to remember, venetianmilw is looking at buying (if not already bought) a machine that is 27 years old from someone that must not have lavished the love on it that it so deserves. Many parts may be close to the end of their useful life because of this.

Hopefully it will all turn out great. I just want him to go in with his eyes wide open.
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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby Picasso » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:02 am

What engine configuration is a "Tempter" ? I never heard of that model. Tell us about it.


I just looked it up , looks like a 650 Savage engine. Only twin cylinder.

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby blackbird » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:12 am

I want to chime in here regarding parts, etc. I have an "83 gl1100A which sat for almost 10 years. I managed to get it running, but don't have the time to do all the work myself, so I am having a shop do some of it to get it on the road. I have, though, looked for parts, "How To" manuals, etc. and they are out there(especially on this site). There is a pretty good selection on parts from EBay to shops such as Southwest Honda and PartsNMore. Have at it.

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby mortiki » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:23 pm

I will have to add to the chorus. I find parts availability for my '83 wings a LOT easier than I did for a 2 year old Harley and still easier than for my '91 Silverwing, which was ONLY made for 3 years. If something does require work the wings are 10 times easier to DIY than Harley and still cheaper. Mods are a snap and breakdowns minimal so I see no down side. I paid twice that for Bella but broke fork seals on way home(it looked like a small mud hole) and do not regret any of my bikes. We have tooo many occasions to have to manhandle bikes for me to even think of 1500 or bigger. The 1100's are small enough to manhandle and big enough to handle me. I would say go for it.
There is never enough time to do it right but there is always time to do it over.
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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby WA9FWT » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:56 pm

mortiki wrote:I will have to add to the chorus. I find parts availability for my '83 wings a LOT easier than I did for a 2 year old Harley and still easier than for my '91 Silverwing, which was ONLY made for 3 years. If something does require work the wings are 10 times easier to DIY than Harley and still cheaper. Mods are a snap and breakdowns minimal so I see no down side. I paid twice that for Bella but broke fork seals on way home(it looked like a small mud hole) and do not regret any of my bikes. We have tooo many occasions to have to manhandle bikes for me to even think of 1500 or bigger. The 1100's are small enough to manhandle and big enough to handle me. I would say go for it.


I just spent a Friday afternoon in a cycle parts house that ships used parts all over the USA, and the owner was telling me that parts for all used Japanese bike are way more expensive then Harleys. He just bought a piston for a old 1949 Harley, he said try that for a honda, you will never find it, and a lot cheaper too.He mentioned that he can find any part for a Harley, and can't find for the Japanese bikes. Well that is his opinion. But I think being a dealer in used parts, he doesn't have the time to hunt on all the sites that are out there. I see he use's the catalogs he has piled six feet high...must be to get part numbers !

WA9FWT Phil

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Re: Looking at a bike

Postby MJSantos » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:47 pm

What he spent for the piston we can get complete engines so why mess with a piston.




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