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Which helmet

Postby Corkster52 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:24 pm



I have searched a bit on this site and cannot find anyone's recommendation on which type, or which specific, helmet they like best. I still have to pick up my 88 GL1500 in a week or so, but I have no clue which is best for a reasonable price. Do typical Wingers use half or the-quarter helmets? Don't have a lot of cash floating around but want something reasonable, safe, and practical.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby onelostsock » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:55 pm

I just bought a new helmet after buying an '06 Wing. My old Bell helmet was 24 yrs old and in need of retirement! I went to the site...motoin.de and bought a Nolan helmet that is not available in the European version and love it! It a true modular helmet. You will have to look at the site to see what I mean but you can configure it in 6 ways.I bought the N-43 Air. It is not DOT approved for the US because of the massive vent on the top. But I don't think it will be a problem. The way I figure it if it is good enough for Europe(and safe) it should be good for me here. It is also a very light helmet and it is ready to install the J&M intercom system which I will purchase soon. My wife and I are tired of yelling while riding! Good luck,hope this info helps a bit.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby Jeeper » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:26 am

The helmet style is a lot of personal preference. I myself use a half helmet, but its one I had before I bought my Goldwing. In the future I plan on getting the intercom so I will be moving to a 3/4 helmet for ease of installation and use. I've seen a lot of GW riders use the modular or full face too, so its really up to you as to what style you like the best and which fits your riding.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:58 pm

I have always used a full-face helmet, communicating over the intercom is a lot easier and less noisy with them. I'm here today (with my face intact) because of a full-face helmet, so I won't wear anything else.

I have had a Shoei for the last 5 years or so, but my wife has an Arai, and the quality and workmanship in that helmet is far superior to my Shoei. Added to that, the Shoei gives me a hot spot on my forehead after a couple of hours that gets painful, because I have a strangely shaped head. This is the main reason my next helmet (in the next month or two) will be an Arai - specifically, an Arai Profile. Arai is the only helmet manufacturer that makes helmets with different shapes to fit different shaped heads, which to me, makes perfect sense. Their Profile helmet fits my head shape perfectly.

Arai's are one of the most expensive helmets available - but have a look at professional racers, be it car, motorcycle, etc...even those sponsored by another helmet manufacturer still wear Arai helmets. There must be a reason.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby lhelber » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:45 pm

I purchased a Nolan N 43, I love the different configurations you can set it up for. As I have read in several "buying helmet" articles you should were the helmet for a while to make sure there are no "hot spots" that will be uncomfortable after a while. I did just that. I put on the helmet and wore it around the shop for an hour just to make sure it still felt great. I liked the fit of the helmet until I took a 250 mile trip. After an hour of traveling at highway speeds I would get a sharp pain right across the forehead. It would go away soon after I stop and take the helmet off. I don't seem to have the problem traveling at the slower average speeds on the more scenic roads. I found on a forum that someone else had the same problem and was able to make a satisfactory modification using a beer bottle. I haven't tried it yet but I am thinking about it.

It is also very difficult to get the helmet on over your head with the chin guard on. Putting the chin guard on after you put on the helmet is easy as long as you have someone to help guide the pins in. There is a lot of fumbling around finding the right spot to insert the guard with out help but may become easier with practice.

The sun shield is nice only if you don't wear any other glasses or eye protection. They say it is nice because you can move it up and down depending on the conditions and would be great if you were traveling through a tunnel. I found in reality finding the lever to move the shade up or down while moving is not that easy and then you have to move it up and you end up moving the helmet around on your head until you get it down. While taking my gear off after a ride a gust of wind blew my helmet off the seat and it landed with the top down on the pavement. The sun shade hasn't worked since. I haven't been too worried about it since I wear glasses anyway while I ride.

I will keep this helmet for a few years but I wish now I had purchased one of the flip front helmets.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby guitarlos » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:02 am

Do some research on Snell ratings vs DOT. I dont think that theres been a huge revamp to the DOT standards since the 70's.

TO each his own though ;)

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Re: Which helmet

Postby lhelber » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:43 am

Actually both snell and DOT ratings have been updated recently. I believe that the two standards have grown a little similar. I saw something about the two standards only differing by 1 or 2 key points. One had to do with the amount of weight used during a certain test. The one thing that you do have to be aware of (in the US at least) your helmet must be DOT approved if you are on a road. They can write you a ticket for a Snell only helmet. I was at a motorcycle rally in NY not long ago and did have to go through a "Helmet Check". It looked like they were more interested in the "skull cap" and novelty helmet riders and letting the real looking helmets pass.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby thrasherg » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:15 pm

I believe the biggest difference is that Snell now requires the helmet to be tested for 2 shocks to the same point on the helmet!! Seems a little overkill to me, but what do I know :?:

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Re: Which helmet

Postby Corkster52 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:57 am

Thanks for all of the great feedback. I had to settle for and HJC IS-33 and so far I really like it, other than after about 15 minutes I get a real pain at my hairline (thankfully not receding yet) just above my forehead. I am hoping that it is just a wearing it in issue. It seems like it is right about where there is a seam between the padding portions.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby lhelber » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:09 am

That is where I was getting the pain from my Nolan N-43. Used the bottom of a beer bottle to give my head a little more room there and it feels better. I am going on a longer ride today to test it out. The pain didn't start until after an hour of highway riding. It didn't seem to want to go away by itself so I helped it along.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby Corkster52 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:08 pm

lol...."bottom of a beer bottle"? Not sure what you mean.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby lhelber » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:14 pm

Using the radius of the edge of a (empty) beer bottle I made a slight indent in the Styrofoam in the helmet right where I would get those extreme headaches. I placed the edge of the beer bottle where I wanted a little more room and then gave the top a light hit with my hand. I did that twice in a small area and that seemed to be enough. During a test ride yesterday I felt no pressure there. I was going to go on a longer ride today but weather post-poned the trip until tomorrow.

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Re: Which helmet

Postby Corkster52 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:31 am

Great! I will give that a try!

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Re: Which helmet

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:13 pm

Keep in mind that doing so reduces the impact absorption ability of the lining, so the helmet is less capable of absorbing impacts before transferring the force to your head. Better off buying a helmet that fits in the first place. :)

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Re: Which helmet

Postby guitarlos » Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:39 am

I dotn know when this was created, but its much more than just two hits to the same spot.....

http://www.smf.org/articles/dot.html

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Re: Which helmet

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:25 am

That article is pretty dated - it's talking about the 1995/2000 Snell standard, and there has been M2005 and M2010 since then. This article is one of the best ones that I have found online, and it mentions the two strike test:

The killer—the hardest Snell test for a motorcycle helmet to meet—is a two-strike test onto a hemispherical chunk of stainless steel about the size of an orange. The first hit is at an energy of 150 joules, which translates to dropping a 5-kilo weight about 10 feet—an extremely high-energy impact. The next hit, on the same spot, is set at 110 joules, or about an 8-foot drop. To pass, the helmet is not allowed to transmit more than 300 Gs to the headform in either hit.




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