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Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:39 am



Narrowing in on a GL1800 but I'm curious. Having never ridden a 1500 and before pulling the trigger on the 1800, how much more tired are you on an 1800 vs a 1500 on long distant rides (500 miles or so)? Oh and why am I leaning toward the 1800? Carb tuning on the 1500 vs FI on the 1800, ABS vs not having any, heated seats and grips vs ??? little stuff like that.
Presently I'm riding a VTX and am a bit beat after putting on about 200-300 miles. It's a bit top heavy when I'm at a crawl and my wife won't ride with me anymore because of it but it's great at road speed. Anyway afterwards I'm ready for a shower and a nap (I know, I know, getting old). :shock:
FYI I'm 5'11" and weigh approx 225. It goes up about 5-8lbs at Thanksgiving thru New Years. Go figure.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby Fatwing Chris » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:40 pm

Well I'm more than likely gonna be the odd man out here,but I'm pretty close to the same size as you and I'd say that at the end of the day I felt better riding the 1500.Right off the bat you have more room and a cushier ride.Pretty sure if you go with the 1800 you're gonna want to either modify your seat or buy one that moves you back at least an 1 1/2".After you do that you'll need risers or you'll be reaching for the bars.I found them too low anyway.Both bike need highway pegs/boards of some kind.
As far as carbs on the 1500 I bought my 89 with 90 k klm's on it and sold it with 175 k on it and never touched the carbs.The bike ran fine when I got it and felt the same when I sold it.FI on the 1800 is nice for cold starting,but I can't really say that it ran that much better than my carbed bikes after that.
The 1800 does handle better,but you do sacrifice some ride quality.Even at the the 1800 came with really weak springs on both ends so they usually require some suspension mods even at lower miles.Mine had approx. 35k miles on it when I got it and the springs were bagged then.Good thing is there's a ton of suspension mods for the 1800 starting at a few hundred all the way up to approx. $4500.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby redial » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:37 pm

The general consensus of this forum, from my observation and personal view, is that the 1500 is more comfortable for the taller people who ride. As for comfort, I just rode a 1500 about 1100Km (about 600 miles), and never got saddle sore - admittedly that was over a couple of days, but it was new-to-me and I wanted to get accustomed to it as well. The seats are fitted with sheep-skins, which remove a lot of fatigue, and the extremes of temperature, but are a real pain in the butt if they get wet. :?

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:26 am

Hey redial, doesn't it slip? I've seen so many that do to where they are just removed.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby redial » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:56 am

No, they do not slip. They are fitted for the seat. I will take some photos tomorrow and let you see.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby dawgout81 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:54 am

I've had 3 Goldwings (1100, 1500 and 1800). I liked all 3. The 1100 did not have cruise which I really like to have on trips, but still a nice bike.
The 1500 (in my opinion) is more comfortable than both the 1800 and 1100 on long trips, but it is also the most top heavy (in my opinion)in around town trips. The 1800 is easier to maneuver on short trips.
I currently own a 1500 with 145,000 miles on it and carbs aren't an issue for me. The 1800 got better gas mileage for me.....about 47 mpg vs. 38 on the 1500. On a long trip the comfort of a 1500 is outstanding, but an 1800 is not bad either.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:22 am

Thanks dawgout81.
Everyone has said the same about the 1500, comfortable but top heavy. My VTX is a bit top heavy expecially with someone on the back. That's why I ride solo. 8-)

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby harvey01 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:32 am

I have a GL1800, with original seat. I am 6'1" with a 31" inseam. I like the ergonomics of the GL1800. I don't have the heated seat or grips, nor the ABS but wish I had that.

If you do your own maintenance, changing the air filter is a pain but can be done. Changing the rear tire is easy, 5 bolts and it comes off like a car tire. I prefer the ride of the GL1800 which is enhanced by the radial tires versus bias ply.

Both are excellent bikes and both will carry you in comfort across this continent and back home.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:39 am

Ha ha, you guys make me want both. :lol:

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:18 am

Hey harvey01
Yes I do some of the minor maintenance. Change out the oil, filters but changing the tires I had left for the experts.
Now taking the tires off of the bike would be simpler but changing them out I'd leave for the Honda dealership saving some $$$. Is that what all of you do? :shock:

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:04 pm

harvey01 wrote:I have a GL1800, with original seat. I am 6'1" with a 31" inseam. I like the ergonomics of the GL1800. I don't have the heated seat or grips, nor the ABS but wish I had that.

If you do your own maintenance, changing the air filter is a pain but can be done. Changing the rear tire is easy, 5 bolts and it comes off like a car tire. I prefer the ride of the GL1800 which is enhanced by the radial tires versus bias ply.

Both are excellent bikes and both will carry you in comfort across this continent and back home.



The only radial tire that will make the 1800 Ride decent is a CT.I've had six Wings over the years.One of each size and 2 1200's and as far as ride goes stock the 1800 is close to the bottom of the heap IMHO.The 12 and up are supposedly better on the back at least,but the earlier 1800's aren't great.
Saying all that though I guess we payed for that stiffer ride by buying a sport bike on steroids.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:13 pm

Boy, I wish I could afford a 2012 or newer but alas, I'm looking at an 02 (Orange with 75000mi) or 04 (black with 53000 mi) presently. :(
But at least I'll have a wing soon. :D
Maybe a tire change to the CT's will happen the closer they come to wearing out.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:37 pm

From what I've read on previous posts were that even with 75k it, it will run for another 125k without any major servicing because the Wings are bullet proof. With good servicing and service records of course.
Remember the cars of old? 100k was the limit before replacing something major or even the engine.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:58 pm

c5cruiser wrote:From what I've read on previous posts were that even with 75k it, it will run for another 125k without any major servicing because the Wings are bullet proof. With good servicing and service records of course.
Remember the cars of old? 100k was the limit before replacing something major or even the engine.

It'll do a lot more than 200 k with regular maint.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:11 pm

That's regular routine maintenance I take it.
Oil, filters, plugs, etc..

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby wingman12 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:17 pm

Mother Honda has put together an engine that will not die as long as regular oil and filter changes are done on close to schedule. However there are a lot of other moving parts that do not do as well unless you are diligent with your maintaince schedule and use the correct lubricant and greases. Everything will wear out in time, but the gw has a habit of extending that time beyond most other machines. The gw will give you back more than you give to her. Happy riding to you no matter which ride you choose. :D :D

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Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:21 pm

Thanks wingman12. I really appreciate it.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby themainviking » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:19 am

c5cruiser wrote:Now taking the tires off of the bike would be simpler but changing them out I'd leave for the Honda dealership saving some $$$. Is that what all of you do? :shock:


I have done both. Changing out the tires by hand at home is difficult, but not impossible, although, you may put some scratches on your rims. Dealerships around here charge $50 to $75 each if you bring in the rims and tires. Probably cheaper if one was to buy the tires from the dealership, but that is highway robbery, when you can get a rear for under $200 from an online tire store. $340 for the same tire from a dealership. Getting a dealership to change the tires over is definitely the better option for ease, but if using balance beads, save them and put them in at home, as they will spill them and not tell you.

I have not ridden a 1500 so cannot comment on that issue, but I can tell you it cost $1500 to get a seat I could live with on my GL1800.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:30 am

I've had the front and rear tires changed out by The dealership to white walls on my VTX and I honestly can't remember what they charged. I'm sure it was a lot tho.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby redial » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:47 pm

I have attached some photos of the fitted sheep skins on my 1500. They do not slip, are very comfortable in hot or cold, but do need to be covered if there is rain.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby waituntilthebeep » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:13 pm

I can comment on both fronts, the 1500 and the 1800. My 1500 was a super comfy ride. It was a giant turd when it came to carb issues though, as a small handful are. It rode well and had plenty of power. The 1500 was the ever popular Wineberry Red color and the PO had put lots of chromey doodads and doohickeys on it. I traded that in and bought a 2012 1800 that was loaded with pretty much everything but the CB and the airbag which I can live without. It has appreciably more power than the 1500 IMHO but that could be related to the crappy carb situation I had going on with the 1500. It is not as comfortable a ride as the 1500 was but that could and will be easily rectified by reworking the seat. I am 6' tall and 300# and I don't have any real issues with the ergonomics of the seat, pegs and bars even though they did a little more sport bikery ( my own word) to the 1800. I have nerve issues with my lower back and I find that after 100 miles on the 1800 I need to find a place to stretch my legs and get the feeling back. Honda has yet to build a bike that fixes sciatica so whatcha gonna do but just ride it like ya stole it and pay the price later. I did notice that my ride smoothed out a bit by going darkside though.

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:00 pm

Thanks redial for the pics.
Thanks waitutilthebeep for the info.

I've come across a Black 04 with 54000 miles on her. She is beautiful. Makes me want to keep my X just so I have the pair. Just tell my wife but I just may. :x

You know, I did find a 99 in 2 tone mint green. The only year that color was produced. It's also very nice.

And the debate continues, do I go for comfort and a little top heavy or performance and a lower center of gravity.

Hmmmm...

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby Fatwing Chris » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:12 pm

c5cruiser wrote:Thanks redial for the pics.
Thanks waitutilthebeep for the info.

I've come across a Black 04 with 54000 miles on her. She is beautiful. Makes me want to keep my X just so I have the pair. Just tell my wife but I just may. :x

You know, I did find a 99 in 2 tone mint green. The only year that color was produced. It's also very nice.

And the debate continues, do I go for comfort and a little top heavy or performance and a lower center of gravity.

Hmmmm...


I didn't find the 1500 to be anymore top heavy than any of the Wings I've owned.The motors and fuel tanks in both are about the same height.The 1500 fairing could be slightly heavier,but not much.I actually preferred it for low speed(parking lot) handling over the 1800.The throttle can be a bit touchy on the 1800 in this case.

IMHO if you're gonna go with an 1800 go with at the very least an 05.That way you're sure you won't have frame issues down the road.I wouldn't have bought my 04 if I had known before hand.
If I'da known it would last this long,I'da taken better care of it.
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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:46 am

I agree, I'm surprised that people are calling the GL1500 top heavy. I found my GL1100 far more top heavy than my GL1500, moving to the GL1500 it felt like all the weight was at the bottom in comparison!

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Re: Tired on GL1800 vs GL1500

Postby c5cruiser » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:00 am

Here's my dilemma. I had taken my VTX to the Republic Of Texas (aka ROT) a couple of years ago. My wife was on the back and the bike being at little top heavy anyway, I was going abou 3-5 miles an hour and while mauve ring thru the crowd my X stared leaning to the left. I probably would have dropped it if it wear the for a bystandard who help straighten it back up. Thus she hasn't been on the back since.
I asked numorous times why not get her her own bike like a 750 but she won't ride unless I get something bigger and the she just would rather be a passenger. She doesn't like or trust the drivers around here. They are idiots, I'll give her that.
This why I've been looking for something with a lower center of gravity. I'm not getting any younger but like being in the wind.

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