Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!


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Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:40 am



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It's a little known fact that the GL1500 have
Air Conditioning already built in our fairings.

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Slip through the PICTORIAL below
to find where it's located.


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8-) . . COOL AY! . . 8-)

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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:04 am

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If you're riding in the HOT desert, use Dry Ice! Less mess!
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:11 pm

WAY-way back in the 70's there was this blond who left her ice tray in the kitchen near a fan on the table.
When she returned after shopping she claims it cooled down the mid two rooms of her tri-level home. (open stairs)

Did I mention she was Blond? :twisted:

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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby redial » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:53 am

The ice tray in front of a fan does work. It is the principle of compressor type air conditioners.
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:05 am

redial wrote:The ice tray in front of a fan does work. It is the principle of compressor type air conditioners.

SURE it works, just not 2 whole rooms with an open stairs to the lower level, simply JUST won't happen.
Beside one standard size ice tray does not have the cooling Btu's for that space... couple dozen maybe but not just one.
Not to mention, that fan is producing heat when running.
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:58 am

redial wrote:The ice tray in front of a fan does work. It is the principle of compressor type air conditioners.


I'm going to call you on this - which principle? Evaporation? Phase change used to transport heat energy?

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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:46 am

WingAdmin wrote:
redial wrote:The ice tray in front of a fan does work. It is the principle of compressor type air conditioners.


I'm going to call you on this - which principle? Evaporation? Phase change used to transport heat energy?


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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby brettchallenger » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:42 am

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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby maintainer » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:07 am

I actually had a curious non rider enamored by all the equipment on my 1800 when they saw the vents ask:
This bike even has an air conditioner? LOL :lol:
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:19 am

maintainer wrote:I actually had a curious non rider enamored by all the equipment on my 1800 when they saw the vents ask:
This bike even has an air conditioner? LOL :lol:

I've had the same 'Q' posed. I grin every time someone does ask.

But when a HD rider asks, I have to hold back my,... ummm... rhetoric.
My usual answer is, "No it doesn't. I have the cheap model just like yours." 8-)
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby redial » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:37 pm

I'm going to call you on this - which principle? Evaporation? Phase change used to transport heat energy?

Read more: viewtopic.php?t=29453#ixzz3jQ8WhSrF


Back in the days before general electricity, and Adam was running around in short pants, a process in Australia was called a "Coolgardie Safe". The process was to use wind power to pump water to the roof, and allow the water to spill down a hessian curtain (burlap?). This provided some cooling, and worked well where there is low humidity. This same process is used here, in summer high temperatures, and low humidity, the outside air is passed through a curtain which has been wetted down by water to provide cooling.

If you use Dr Google, you can find how a air conditioner works, (see http://www.selfhelpandmore.com/how-does-it-work/basic-air-conditioner-operation.php), and from this you can see that a gas is compressed (cooled) and then circulated through some coils with a fan blowing, causing the cool air to be pushed through to the interior.

I hope this clears this matter to your satisfaction.
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:19 am

I was just yanking your chain. :) The two principles are actually the same which is absorption of heat energy to facilitate phase change.

I know about air conditioning. The compression actually releases the heat energy (why compressors get hot). It's the expansion, or evaporation of the coolant inside the evaporator that absorbs heat from the air going through it that causes the cooling.

Air conditioners don't actually cool anything, they just transport heat from one place (indoor air) to another place (outdoor air).

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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby FM-USA » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:22 am

Riding through HOT Texas long time ago I hit a pocket of REALLY cool air. I turned around to find out why. About 1/4 mile upwind was a field being sprinkled with ground water.
Apparently the air was being cooled by heat exchange, the warmer water was dropping to the ground.
Not sure if the plants liked being pre-cooked. :o

The only similar thing compressed AC has with 'ambient air and water' is the exchange of heat.
The two are more dissimilar than similar. :geek:
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Re: Air Conditioning on GL1500's? ---> YES WE DO!

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:34 am

FM-USA wrote:Riding through HOT Texas long time ago I hit a pocket of REALLY cool air. I turned around to find out why. About 1/4 mile upwind was a field being sprinkled with ground water.
Apparently the air was being cooled by heat exchange, the warmer water was dropping to the ground.
Not sure if the plants liked being pre-cooked. :o

The only similar thing compressed AC has with 'ambient air and water' is the exchange of heat.
The two are more dissimilar than similar. :geek:


It's exactly the same principle.

Ambient air and water, with liquid water being applied to the ground. Ambient temperature and humidity causes the water to evaporate. The phase change from liquid to gas during evaporation absorbs latent heat.

Air conditioning system containing refrigerant. Compressor pressurizes the gaseous refrigerant, causing the refrigerant to condense into a liquid, inside the condenser (basically a radiator). Condensation releases latent heat, which is transferred to the air via the condenser. The liquid refrigerant is transported to the evaporator, where it is allowed to spray into a lower pressure environment, inside the evaporator (another radiator). Because the pressure is lower, the refrigerant evaporates, absorbing latent heat, which is transferred from the air flowing through the evaporator. The now gaseous refrigerant is transported to the compressor, where the cycle begins again.

It's exactly the same thing - evaporation and condensation to absorb and release latent heat. One is using water, the other is using refrigerant.

Physics is fun. :)




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