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Gas prices revisited

Postby dingdong » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:27 am



I just filled up my truck here in OKC for $1.80 per gallon. Good for us as consumers however Oklahoma is so dependent on the oil industry it's not good for the economy or the job market. Catch 22!

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:00 am

We're in an odd situation with gas prices right now. My daughter is doing a project on this for economics right now. We've got an excess of production domestically. Meanwhile, the Middle East is continuing to run their production wide open for fear of losing market share. The end result is a glut of oil on the market. The only thing determining gas prices right now is refinery capacity.

That and taxes...while you're at $1.80, we're at $2.20 here in Ohio, and my friend in California is paying $3.75.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby brettchallenger » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:35 am

In the UK prices are down to circa £1.13 per litre (it will depend where in the UK you live). Prices across the European Union won't differ that much. This equates to approximately $7 per US gallon (my arithmetic is terrible these days so it won't be spot on, and is based on one litre equalling 1 US quart). What ever the accurate conversion is, the bottom line is that Americans are a lucky bunch! However, I am not complaining as we are paying a lot less this month than we did two years ago.

But as Dingdong says, it is a "catch 22" (terrible book by the way) situation. The Scottish oil industry is really suffering as getting oil out of the North Sea is an expensive process and no one makes money when oil is this cheap.
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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:55 am

today here in my area of Tennessee, gas price for a gal. of reg. is $1.93, that's as cheap as its been here in a long time. i hope its this cheap when i do my ride to Florida next weekend. i keep checking on this website....http://www.gasbuddy.com to keep up with the latest fuel prices.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby wilmo » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:06 pm

Regular here is about $2.65/gal give or take. I think that makes us one of the highest in the nation. Makes no sense, there is a major refinery less than 30 miles from here and the local oil industry is citing 'transportation' as the biggest factor in our above average prices. :roll: History shows that this state will raise gas prices immediately for any lame excuse but will fight to the death when it comes to dropping them (can you say price gouge?) :evil:

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Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:44 pm

there's a gas station in Brooklyn N.Y at flatbush ave and gold street that's $3.79 for a gal. of reg. can you say WTF?

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Postby CMReynolds1 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:45 pm

Oregon and Washington are running low $3.00 depending on location. I would love $1.80!
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Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:22 pm

i'd love $1.80 too. would be very helpful on my 900 mile ride down to the Florida keys.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby FM-USA » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:54 pm

Hey stuart, towing one of these could be helpful. ;)



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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby FM-USA » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:38 pm

I got lucky last fall at the Flea Market and picked up an aluminum tank.
It was the last week for the season and picked it up for meeEEeer pittance.
Not sure yet if I'm going to use it for extra fuel or non-potable water in my trailer.
Either way it's a good size, hold 12 gallons.
(Water 8.35# x 12 = 100# __ Gas 6.3# x 12 = 76#)

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Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:24 am

lol, yeah, i could see me pulling that behind my motorcycle, but that would be a LOT of weight to pull behind me. gasoline@7lbs per gallon times what ever that larger tank holds? being towed for almost 900 miles? that's pretty hefty not including the weight of the trailer its sitting on. that would be like adding another person on the back of my bike.

i like that smaller 12 gallon tank. i COULD mount that on my trunks luggage rack and run a line to my fuel petcock and when the bike's tank runs out, switch it over to that one 8-) .

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby NVSB4 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:59 am

I usually stop at QT for my gas as they have good fuel at good prices. What got me the other day was the QT close to my house was $2.16 and another QT 5 miles away was $1.92. Too much difference for the same vendor.

I was also able to use Kroger fuel points last week to fill the truck. For those that don't know, for every $1 you spend at Kroger on groceries, you get 1 fuel point for the month. You redeem 100 points for 10 cents off per gallon. We had an extra high grocery month so I got $1.00 off per gallon, paying $1.01 /gallon. Great deal when you have a truck with a 28 gallon tank that gets about 12 mpg.

roadwanderer2 wrote:today here in my area of Tennessee, gas price for a gal. of reg. is $1.93, that's as cheap as its been here in a long time. i hope its this cheap when i do my ride to Florida next weekend. i keep checking on this website....http://www.gasbuddy.com to keep up with the latest fuel prices.


Stuart,
I like the Gas Buddy site, it has a lot of cool information aside from the price at the closest pump. I've bookmarked for future reference.

WingAdmin wrote:That and taxes...while you're at $1.80, we're at $2.20 here in Ohio, and my friend in California is paying $3.75.

Sounds like a great project. There are lots of charts on the Gas Buddy site that she could use.
I thought that it was both funny and sad last month in Ireland when I saw a sign on a pump, "don't blame us on the gas price", then showed that taxes amounted to 57% of the pump price.
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Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:51 am

i use gasbuddy.com every time i plan a road trip that takes me over 100 miles. i have it on my desktop AND my laptop. i map out my route and all the stations along the way. its the same thing with my credit card, "i don't leave home without it" lol.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby dingdong » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:58 am

Federal fuel tax is 18.4 cents per gal. In Oklahoma the state fuel tax is 17 cents. $.354 per gal.
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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby FM-USA » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:48 am

roadwanderer2 wrote:i use gasbuddy.com every time i plan a road trip that takes me over 100 miles. i have it on my desktop AND my laptop. i map out my route and all the stations along the way. its the same thing with my credit card, "i don't leave home without it" lol.
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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:15 am

I don't have Gasbuddy on my desktop, but I DO have it on my phone. It's great, it pops up a map centered on wherever you are at that moment, and shows all the gas stations around you, and the prices at each one. Especially great for when you're out of town and don't naturally know where the cheapest prices are (or where the nearest Costco is).

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby wilmo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:56 pm

The other good one is pure-gas.org-lets you know where the non ethanol stations are relative to where you are. That's my favorite app right now.

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Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:01 pm

the nearest station that sells non ethanol gas is about 12 miles from me, its nice, but its about 35 cents more per gallon, and i wish that had better than 87 octane then i wouldn't mind spending the extra money for it, but your right, pure-gas.org is also a good site to have. i already found a few stations on it that are along my ride route down to Florida.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby redial » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:38 pm

i like that smaller 12 gallon tank. i COULD mount that on my trunks luggage rack


Hey Stuart,
Would that cause you some damage to the trunk? That would be a fairly heavy load for the lid?

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:14 am

i don't know what the max load capacity for the lid would be, but i've budgied some heavy things down to it before without any problems. its all a matter of getting it centered on the rack and making sure what ever it is doesn't move around.

yeah, i'll miss some of them, and i'll definitely be getting wet lol.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby FM-USA » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:31 am

roadwanderer2 wrote:i don't know what the max load capacity for the lid would be, but i've budgied some heavy things down to it before without any problems. its all a matter of getting it centered on the rack and making sure what ever it is doesn't move around.
yeah, i'll miss some of them, and i'll definitely be getting wet lol.
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12 gallon fuel tank on the lid is a not a good idea BUT is fine when just "TALKING" about it. Sure it can be mounted up there and most know the lid needs reinforcing or extra frame needs to be installed, preferably he latter.
This 12 gallon tank don't look all that big until I put it on the rack. Besides, that 90 pounds (fuel and tank and mounts weight) up high WILL affect your bikes center of gravity. It will feel different, especially when the liquid is sloshing.
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The GL1500 trunk, Honda says is 40 pounds limit. As for the lid you're stretching it when over 20 pounds. But you're right, keep it from moving and not hit bumps is the key.
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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:35 am

your right about the center of gravity and the sloshing around of the fuel inside the tank. that will DEFINITELY throw you off balance when your navigating thru turns and stops and take-offs. the force of the weight inside the tank, IMO, might be more dangerous than helpful.

there is however a way to make it safer, but it might cost a lot of money, have the fuel tank built like the ones in race cars, they have an absorbing sponge inside the tank to stop the fuel from sloshing around when its gets almost empty, but then you would have to add another inline fuel filter to it so the sponge particles didn't get into the fuel line and travel to the carbs or injectors. call this "fuel for thought" ;).

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:48 am

You're talking about the foam in fuel cells used in racing cars. The foam does provide baffling, but its primary purpose is to limit large volumes of fuel vapor from collecting when partially full, and prevent ignition of these explosive vapors during a crash.

Airplanes have baffling as well, but it's usually just pieces of metal in the tank dividing the tank up into smaller sections, with small holes that restrict movement of fuel between the sections.

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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby NVSB4 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:16 am

If you really get serious about adding a tank, you could probably mount one on a rack attached to the trailer hitch, or the trailer itself.
That at least would resolve the weight and center of gravity issues.
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Re: Gas prices revisited

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:02 pm

wingadmin, i wasn't aware that that was the foam's primary function, i thought it was to keep the fuel from sloshing around in the tank........and NVSB4, unfortunately my bike's trailer hitch is only a ball, but that's a good idea about mounting it inside the trailer. a small 10 gallon tank would be perfect. all that would be needed is to run a new fuel line and a separate fuel shut of valve and it would be like the ones in a pick up truck where they have dual tanks and can switch from one tank to the other.

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