Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015


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Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:16 pm



Hi everyone,
I'm a new member here.
Comsidering changing my 2003 for a 2015. I seem to have some upcoming problems with my transmission at sometimes skips from the second to the fourth or fifth gear. Is this an upcoming major issue? Furthermore, It seems to have developped a wobble when at slow speed...even though the front tire is ok. Is it true the latest 1800 have been built without these issues?
Do you think I should move to a newer model?
Thanks for your thoughts.



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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Harp » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:26 pm

I had an 85, used to wobble at slow speeds as well. The 1st time it happened really gave me a scare. After talking to my mechanic, he advised me that this was a common issue with GWs from that era. I became used to it after a while - just never knew when it would trigger.
When I hit the 70K mark the trans started missing gears/ popping out or not catching between 4th & 5th. I started to investigate what should be done, trans work, etc...
The Mrs decided it was time for me to have a new bike and bought a 2014 for me - problems solved. It handles better than any bike I've ever owned. No longer do I worry about the wobble at low speeds. I only see my mechanic when I stop by for a chat. I really love this bike.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby brettchallenger » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:29 am

Hi

This video is a review of the gl1800 by Revzilla. Interestingly, the test bike also has a wobble at lowish speeds - go to 5'40".



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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:30 am

Thanks you guys for your advice.
I had seen a couple of videos but not this one. Interesting; this 2015 does wobble too.
As for the tranny problem which is my main concern, I found out that a lot of gl1800 have the same. I am still looking out to see if the recent versions of the gl still have it.

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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby WINGER3 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:52 am

Hi Elpebe, welcome to the best GW site on the web. I had 2 1500's and put 150K+ mi combined, never had 1 problem with ether one, loved them both. I now have an 05 1800 and would never think of going back to a 1500, although I have read on this site some have. You will have to make the decision, but I would check for the cause of your problems first and weigh the cost of repair against the big loss of value of your bike if not repaired and price of a very nice 1500 that might end up with problems. Wings are not known for major problems but sometimes S+_">T happens. Best of luck to you. :mrgreen:
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby themainviking » Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:41 am

I would think that the two problems you have with your 2003 would not have been corrected or modified on a 2015. They did not change the frame, nor the engine, nor the tranny on these newer GL1800s as far as I know, so after a number of miles I would imagine these same gremilins will crop up. You would however, have the pleasure of riding a brand new bike in the mean time. If money is no object, I would go newer. For me, however, money is an object, LMAO
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:59 am

Thanks tmv. I know for sure that Honda has made a change to the GL since 2003 at least once, as my GL did not have the same ratio in the 1st gear as the later years...mine being very short and a bit hard to control at slow speed. As for the front fork it has been strengthened according to the dealer and the body as well...I therefore think that a move for a newer bike would improve the situation.
Finally, I forgot to say that the dealer is ready to pay 11000$ plus taxes for my bike, which I think is a good deal.

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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby harvey01 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:30 pm

That sure sounds like a good trade in value to me! But as I look at a 2015, my next question is how much is he coming off the suugested price for the level Gold Wing you are looking at? Remember it is almost November, the 2015 Wing is almost a year old and has probably been sitting in his shop for a few months. And the new 2016's are not that far away!

I guess what I am really looking for is the difference between the new bike and the tradein that I have to pay, And what sort of pricing is he giving you on any accessories such a CB radio and antennae, the nice to have liners in the saddlebags, a trunk rack, fog lights, and so forth. Check prices for this stuff before dealing so you know what you are doing. you might want to contact some of the larger Gold Wing sellers such as Honda of Russelville, Southern Powersports to get an idea on pricing for a 2015.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:44 pm

There were some changes to the trans in 2014.4th and 5th gears as well as better shift forks as far as I know.Could be some other stuff as well.I haven't seen the entire list of upgraded pieces.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby WINGER3 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:30 pm

WINGER3 wrote:Hi Elpebe, welcome to the best GW site on the web. I had 2 1500's and put 150K+ mi combined, never had 1 problem with ether one, loved them both. I now have an 05 1800 and would never think of going back to a 1500, although I have read on this site some have. You will have to make the decision, but I would check for the cause of your problems first and weigh the cost of repair against the big loss of value of your bike if not repaired and price of a very nice 1500 that might end up with problems. Wings are not known for major problems but sometimes S+_">T happens. Best of luck to you. :mrgreen:

Boy, talk about being on pain med's last night when I wrote this, how I missed your point about going newer is beyond me, but I must admit the pain pills I'm on are great.
The price the dealer is offering sounds great, but what is his price for the new one. US blue book retail in excellent condition is $9800.US, trade in is $6900. US in also excellent condition. As harvey01 says do your home work before you jump. Good luck :mrgreen:
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:51 pm

He is asking 21000 taxes included which means he is asking 29260$ cdn for his bike. Of course, I will have to reinsvest in a couple of accessories to bring the new boke to what I actually have. What are your thoughts?

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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby WINGER3 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:54 pm

Hi Elpebe, A dealer here in the states has a level 1 2015 GL1800 audio for US $19,998. out the door price, that means all tax's, delivery and prep are included. If your guy will give you US $11,000. for your old bike and sell you the new one for US $21,000. out the door, sounds like a very good deal, if the $11,000. is Can. then you will have to make that decision, the extras can all be added later. Wish you the best. :mrgreen:
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:18 am

Not exactly. To start with I am getting a 2015 level 3 ( as you have it in the States),three colour gl for this price. In Canada in the SE edition there are only 2 levels: one full equipped (gps, xmradio and nav inc.) and the other one all this plus airbarg. I am getting the one without airbag.
Of course, I can wait for the 2016, but then again, if the 2016 is very different, it will sell for more and mine will certainly drop in value, the model being outdated. Overall, I think I am getting a good deal.

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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby themainviking » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:35 am

I think he is giving excellent trade in for your bike, but it looks like full retail for his. The numbers add up. You could be very happy with this deal because of where he is pricing your bike. Also, he will make lots of money when he sells your bike, and is making a profit on the sale to you, so you will likely get a dealer you can work with later.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:10 am

Well I finally did it. Was hard to part from my 2003 but am glad I did.
Unfortunately I wont be riding it much in the next couple of weeks as winter is settling in progressively. Will post some pictures of my new ride soon and report on the differences I noticed. :D

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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby themainviking » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:40 am

The major diff will be from old to new. You cannot compare the two bikes realistically. It is like going from an old car to a new car. The new car always seems better, but it is simply that it is new and all tight and unused.

That said - congratulations on the new bike. You will be very happy, I am sure. Enjoy.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby harvey01 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:12 pm

Elpebe, Congratulations on the new ride! All you need now is spring so you can ride! Seriously, I hope you enjoy your new 2015 as much as the 2003.

After you put a few thousand km on it you might let us all know what you view as different, improved, or not improved.
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Re: Thinking of changing my 2003 for a 2015

Postby Elpebe » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:52 pm

Will certainly keep you informed. For the moment, I found out that my riding position was more comfy as I seem to be a bit less cramped and therefore farther from the grips. Enjoy all heating components that I didn't have such as heated grips and seat for the wife and I and the openings for my feet that throw heated air from the motor. These are nice improvements that I will enjoy here in Canada.

And of course, it rides much better and more tight but of course the bike is new. :D




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