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Waterless Coolants

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:43 pm



Just seen a programme on TV were the cooling system was filled with waterless coolant, I was wondering if anyone knows if this is a good substitute for the 50/50 antifreeze solution normally used in a GL1000??.
It claims that it is a for life product and never needs replacing which sounds a good idea to me??
Regards John



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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby brettchallenger » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:40 pm

You were watching "wheeler dealers" too!

I can't see why a waterless coolant shouldn't work just as well in a water cooled motorcycle as it does in an old Triumph sports car.
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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:49 am

I sure was!!! Ed China is my hero, he has inspired me to take on my GL1000 Executive project.
It seems to me that this waterless would be a good thing in a GL1000 engine too.
Thanks for your reply.
John

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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby brettchallenger » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:13 am

I emailed one of the companies which produce waterless coolant products, this is their reply. I queried a GL1500 specifically but I suspect this product will be the same for all Goldwings variants.

"Good Morning Steve.

Many thanks for your enquiry.

For your Goldwing you will be fine using Evans Power Cool 180⁰ which is the product designed for modern and high performance cars.
This fluid has all the correct corrosion inhibitors for the metallurgy found in your Honda 1500cc engine.

Power Cool 180⁰ is widely available from outlets such as Demon Tweeks, Euro Car Parts and Merlin Motorsport.

Alternatively PowerSports R is available from Crescent Motorcycles and Demon Tweeks also, this is the same formulation as Power Cool anyway, just targeted towards different sectors.

I have attached the product sheet for Power Cool 180 for you which outlines the major benefits of switching to Evans.

If you would like me to let you know who and where your most suitable outlet would be then please let me know your postcode and I’ll gladly let you know.

I hope this helps.
"

Unfortunately, the pdf doc. containing instructions and other details about the product, which they sent to me won't upload onto this site. Please pm me if you want me to send this via email.
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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:11 am

Thanks for that, I googled it and there are vast price differences between the highest and lowest which I have posted the link for Here.
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/ev ... wwodK8cMpg
Thanks very much for the info.

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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby brettchallenger » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:00 am

Yep, I reckon it would cost about £70-80 for a GL1500 (2x2 litres, plus the prep). Might be a worthwhile project for the winter though, after I stop riding when they salt the roads.
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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:07 pm

https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/ev ... s-p-cool-5
Put the wrong link before, but definitely think its worth doing this as an alternative to the 50-50 mix prescribed in the manuals..

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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby MikeB » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:37 pm

If you go the route of Evans Waterless coolant, remember that you need to flush all the water out of the system with Evans Prep Fluid first. That is an additional expense over and above the already high cost of the Evans coolant. From what I have seen, the coolant is about $80 US and the prep fluid is about $30 US. Pretty pricey I'd think.
The OEM 50/50 antifreeze, at about $20 US a gallon, is already a long duration fluid. I'd think that would be good enough for anyone's purposes.

According to the service manual, the coolant needs to be replaced every two years or 24,000 miles. Over a 11 year period or 132,000 miles, if you followed the service manual, you could break even with the Evans coolant.

But then again, the service manual says to change the engine oil, oil filter and spark plugs every 8,000 miles. Not many of us follow the service manual as written.

For me, I think I will stick to the OEM coolant.
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Tacoma, WA, USA

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Re: Waterless Coolants

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:52 pm

Thank You Mike, Its just that I watched a programme in the UK that extols the virtues of waterless coolant, I have ordered the 2 parts of the mix and will give it a try.
Thanks for all comments.




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