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I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:08 pm



I was checking out the snow blowers the other day, I kept asking myself if the cost of one of these was worth it to us... Does it snow enough here in Kansas City , Kansas to purchase one of these $600.00 items ? it's just gonna sit there until winter comes around again...Is it worth it? I am considering fabricating a attachment to my lawn tractor for a blade...I have been watching youtube videos on the subject of homemade attachments, some of them are quite entertaining... do any of you guys own snow blowers and are they a good investment to you...What type, the auger type or the thick rubber flapper type???



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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:26 pm

I have one, but it came with me from Canada, and we do get snowfalls where we get feet of snow at a time (lake effect snow). It normally gets quite a workout each year, but this year I haven't used it a single time. In fact, I've only shoveled our driveway once this year, and that was with about an inch and a half on it - not enough to bother getting the snowblower out.

I would always get a two-stage unit. Having had a flappy-rubber unit before, it was more work than it was worth, and hardly helped.

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby GoldWRider » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:36 pm

I actually own two snow blowers in case one breaks down. Same year and same model just in case I ever need a part. They are worth every cent. If you decide to get one, get a self propelled 2 stage snowblower. It is worth the extra money. 8-) You get what you pay for.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby Breakdancer » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:27 pm

As little as you would use it maybe you could get by with a good used one. I just saw one in the Kansas City CL for $310. It says used once and comes with manual and key. I'm thinkin' electric start?? Looks like a "Yard Machine" (walmart?), but they are quite common up here. You can tell how used and abused they are by how much paint is worn off by the impeller, (The part that throws the snow). +1 on not worth the money for rubber paddles. I know you know this but.... if you get one and it plugs up in the chute (heavy wet snow can do that)....never use your hand to unplug. Just ask lefty :shock:
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby ankgrays » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:52 pm

GoldWRider wrote:I actually own two snow blowers in case one breaks down. Same year and same model just in case I ever need a part. They are worth every cent. If you decide to get one, get a self propelled 2 stage snowblower. It is worth the extra money. 8-) You get what you pay for.



This...ALWAYS a 2-stage.

I bought a used Honda (nothing but the best) off of craigslist and never looked back.

With that said, I do have another single stage generic White brand. Made by MTD, I think.

For the lighter snows.

...and a shovel.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby FM-USA » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:09 pm

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN . . . .

I have two Toro 1800 Power Curve 110v Electric Snow Throwers.
First one I bought brand new at Home-D (get this...) $15.00 ... center isle clearance item.
Second from a good customer who's moving where there isn't any snow. Used twice.

I like it since its very light and can be used on stairs. It will cut down any size drift in layers.
But not good on wet snow that sticks unless you use a spray can of silicone first.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:08 pm

who said you have to buy a new snowblower? there are plenty of used snowblowers to choose from and most need nothing more than a good carb cleaning. first decided what brand, I stick with toro or ariens because parts for older machines are easy to get ( I have all toro's right now ) do you need a single stage or two stage machine. check out http://www.snowblowerforum.com/ for info
I just picked this toro 624 powershift up for $20. the plan is to get it running before doing anything else so first up is installing the choke and cleaning the carb and gas tank. if the motor is good i'll have it up and running in usable condition for less than $200. a few years ago I picked up a toro 521 for $85, paid $22 for a carb and it's been working great since then
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:12 pm

Wow, this is most helpful information.... I am so glad I asked.... I never owned one.... :shock: I was looking at the Toro's Yep, sure was... :lol: Getting a used one sounds like a good idea, the idea that there's lots of used parts on line and thereabout sounds good to me...Yes the two stage one..

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:41 pm

They don't say a lot but this video speaks volumes....



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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby flogger » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:28 pm

I had a heart attack in 2003 and bought once then... It's not worth risking your health over and snow removal is the most strenuous thing you can do around your home. I've had a couple of years where I did not use it or need it and your area is probably like mine... I usually use it 3-5 times a season and I usually get one good heavy snow a season... Mostly removing 3-5 inches per use but the heavy would be the greater than 6-8 inches once or twice a season... I can and have used it in 2 foot deep snow, you can easily get with drifting. There is nothing to really break on these so they are durable, dependable, and easy/cheap to maintain... I have only changed the oil and only put a new spark plug in once. Buy the biggest you can store... Opening height is as important as width.... obviously then that would also be self propelled and I recommend reverse too... Big tires! You can clear a lot of snow in a very short time... I wish I'd gotten mine 30 yesrs earlier...
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby themainviking » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:01 pm

Yup. I would not be without one. I have a Honda 1132 on tracks, and it pretty much eats snow for breakfast. Seeing as we have snow for breakfast, that's a good thing. I quit hunting about ten years ago, and had a 1990 Honda Four Wheeler that I no longer needed. The Honda dealership traded me straight across for a brand new snowblower, and till this year, I had not done a thing to it. This year I had to change a belt and the auger bearing, and put in a carburator kit and a spark plug. Total cost, under $100, including an oil change. Toro makes some really decent snowblowers. +4 on the two stage units. I have even been eyeing the three stage lately. Bet Washington and New York could use some of them right now.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby detdrbuzzard » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:53 am

littlebeaver wrote:Wow, this is most helpful information.... I am so glad I asked.... I never owned one.... :shock: I was looking at the Toro's Yep, sure was... :lol: Getting a used one sounds like a good idea, the idea that there's lots of used parts on line and thereabout sounds good to me...Yes the two stage one..

you can still get most owners manuals for toro's free on toro's website all you need is the model ( 521 ) and serial number ( 38052 ), those will also tell what year your toro is. right now I'm up to 10 snowblowers and all but two are running. bought one new the other nine are used and none of those cost over $175 and with repairs none are over $250. seeing that goldwings rarely breakdown I had to have something to fix :)
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:03 am

Breakdancer wrote:As little as you would use it maybe you could get by with a good used one. I just saw one in the Kansas City CL for $310. It says used once and comes with manual and key. I'm thinkin' electric start?? Looks like a "Yard Machine" (walmart?), but they are quite common up here. You can tell how used and abused they are by how much paint is worn off by the impeller, (The part that throws the snow). +1 on not worth the money for rubber paddles. I know you know this but.... if you get one and it plugs up in the chute (heavy wet snow can do that)....never use your hand to unplug. Just ask lefty :shock:


Our mailman disappeared a few winters ago for a few months, and was replaced with substitute carriers. When he returned, he was missing most of the three middle fingers on his right hand.

His snowblower jammed, so he shut it off. He figured it was safe, because the engine was off and nothing was moving. He reached in to yank out whatever had jammed it. What he didn't realize was that because of the jam, it was still under immense tension - and as soon as he removed what was jamming it, that tension released, spinning the auger and taking his fingers with it.

No fingers in the snowblower! Mount a small stick on the thing and use that if needed.

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:47 pm

That poor guy....Oh man....No more fingers.... :shock: that was clearly a second stage type blower... You wouldn't think it would do that but he is living proof it happens....Poor guy... That had to hurt... But the idea that he lost his fingers is worse... His life will never be the same...

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:14 pm

I had an old, solid, snow blower that I brought down here with me from Canada - I'm sure it's at least 25 years old. It was made in Canada out of thick gauge steel (so it was heavy but strong), and I'm sure polluted enough to make Al Gore cough. But it was powerful and would just eat through snow like anything.

Last year the auger quit on it and when I pulled it apart, there were sheared parts inside. I looked it up, but it was so old that the manufacturer didn't even have record of making it anymore, and certainly didn't have spare parts.

I had to admit that it might be dead, and started looking at new snow blowers. In comparison, the snow blowers sold today are junk. They're made in China, out of cheap, thin sheet steel and plastic, and are made to be thrown away after they die in a few years. I honestly could not bring myself to spend $700 on such a poorly designed machine, made out of such cheap materials.

So I went back home, machined some replacement parts, and got my old standby running again. With any luck, it will be good for another 25 years.

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby Pam » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:43 pm

I live on an acherage, and was considering a blade for the ATV but decided that was not the way to go because what do you do with the snow after a while. You can only push it so high. With a blower it is gone. I have a front mount 48 inch on my 17.5 hp lawn tractor and, and have had no issues in 10 years. I start with a full cut and then only take the size the unit will handle after that. I used to take it off in the spring to mow the lawn but the wife helped me reattach it one fall. She decided that was to much work so bought another lawn tractor. Now I have this unit that just sits all summer long.

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby ankgrays » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:19 pm

Here's a Kinda funny story:

Several years ago, my "smart" brother put his hand in a 2 stage to clear it. You know the rest of THIS part of the story.

He had from the top knuckle of his middle finger ripped off. Had plastic surgery to repair. Surgeon did a SH!TT? job. Took skin from the back of his calf,

sewed in place on finger as a graft. Slit his belly skin open and stuck his skin grafted finger in the slit and sewed it shut, with finger inside, for a month

so it "would heal better". A month later, finger removed, and bandaged to heal more.

After bandages permanantley removed...GET THIS: His middle finger looked like a (male extremity) with 2 hairs growing out of it!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still does to this day.....!!!

Moral of the story?? I'm sure you already know...

BE CAREFUL WITH 2 STAGE BLOWERS!!!

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:09 pm

Damn! :shock: :shock: A good ole shovel is starting to sound good to me... :lol: :lol:

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby FM-USA » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:15 pm

WingAdmin wrote:. . . They're made in China, out of cheap, thin sheet steel and plastic, and are made to be thrown away after they die in a few years. I honestly could not bring myself to spend $700 on such a poorly designed machine, made out of such cheap materials.
So I went back home, machined some replacement parts, and got my old standby running again. With any luck, it will be good for another 25 years.

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby harvey01 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:09 pm

I don'tn know if Little Beaver has made his purchase or not. Living in VA we normally don't get much more than 6 inches of snow although I have 10 inches on the ground right now. I have been considering an electric snowblower. I realize there will not be as much power but there will also be a lot less maintenance. What can you do other than oil and grease parts? This way I avoid all of the problems with maintaining gasoline engines, need for oil filters and air filters. I used to enjoy that stuff but failing health has really slowed me.

Recently I read a tip that if you spray the "tines" with WD40 the ice does not stick as much and build up. Anyone tried that?
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby Breakdancer » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:24 pm

Our mailman disappeared a few winters ago for a few months, and was replaced with substitute carriers. When he returned, he was missing most of the three middle fingers on his right hand.

His snowblower jammed, so he shut it off. He figured it was safe, because the engine was off and nothing was moving. He reached in to yank out whatever had jammed it. What he didn't realize was that because of the jam, it was still under immense tension - and as soon as he removed what was jamming it, that tension released, spinning the auger and taking his fingers with it.

No fingers in the snowblower! Mount a small stick on the thing and use that if needed.





I'm glad you pointed that out WingAdmin. I've lived with snow all my life, seems like 6 mo. out of the year, and have never heard of that, but I can see how that could happen. Poor guy... +1 mount a small stick. Don't want to look like ankgrays' smart brother... :shock:

I have too much driveway for a snowblower. I use an old 3/4 ton Chevy with a 8' blade. I almost need a ladder to get into my truck but hey, I stay warm and have tunes. :D
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby FM-USA » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:43 pm

harvey01 wrote:I don'tn know if Little Beaver has made his purchase or not. Living in VA we normally don't get much more than 6 inches of snow although I have 10 inches on the ground right now. I have been considering an electric snowblower. I realize there will not be as much power but there will also be a lot less maintenance. What can you do other than oil and grease parts? This way I avoid all of the problems with maintaining gasoline engines, need for oil filters and air filters. I used to enjoy that stuff but failing health has really slowed me.

Recently I read a tip that if you spray the "tines" with WD40 the ice does not stick as much and build up. Anyone tried that?

WD40 is fish oil, use it for ice fishing. As it dries, it gets gummy.
Get yourself a spray can of silicone. No wiping just spray it, let it dry. Complete the next use, spray and let dry. If you're in a hurry spray and wipe dry but do 2 coats.
Snow does not stick. If it's slushy it will but will stick less.
My 18" electric kept up with a 2 stage blower 6? years ago, we got 2 ft., the dude was impressed. It's all in how you learn to use it.... and watching your extension cord.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:55 pm

I asked my daughter tonight if she thought we could use a snow blower,,, aw man,,,, she's using my own words against me now. :shock: :shock: ... We went out to get something to eat and upon our return we drive into our driveway,, I asked her do we need a snow blower????? Or should I get one,,, she turned and looked at me,, with a disgusting look and said, just like this: What's that in front of you? I said the Jeep, she replied OK, what's that next to you ? I replied nothing and in front of us to the right is our pickup ,, she said
use your shovel you lightweight...Ohhhhhhhhhhh Good one.... :lol: :lol: she burned me.....Guess who's gonna be shoveling the snow next time around.... :lol: :lol: Not me... she has a good point..

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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby ankgrays » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:11 pm

I guess I should have added to my previous post, listing my equipment.

I also have a (much) better half and 3 kids...that are always welcome to use MY equipment.
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Re: I was lookin at Snow blowers

Postby FM-USA » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:54 pm

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