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Dunlop Elite 4

Postby rmoss » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:19 pm



Just found this on the new Elite 4's from Dunlop.
Hope these 2 links work.

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/0 ... ge-rubber/

http://www.motorcycle.com/products/dunl ... ew-elite-4

Interesting looking tread.
They call it a high mileage tire and are only saying 5% mileage increase over a Dunlop 3. Doesn't seem like much of an increase for a high mileage tire.

I think I will wait until I get some feedback before I get a set.

It will be interesting to see the price.



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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Dusty Boots » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:10 pm

It is also supposedly 'quieter'.
I wonder if that means less cupping on the rear?
Not fussy about the tread on the front tire. Hope with that centre 'rib', it doesn't 'hunt' tar snakes/road imperfections/grated metal surfaces etc! :roll:

I have one of the new rear E3s with the MT tread that I bought last fall that I am about to put on.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:13 pm

They are a multi-compound tire, so the rubber compound in the middle part, where most of the riding takes place, is harder and longer-wearing, and the edges are softer and more grippy for cornering.

They're coming out for the 1800 and the 1500. WingStuff has them for pre-order, at $420 for a GL1800 radial pair, and $375 for a GL1500 bias pair. Individually it's showing $200 for front/$240 for rear on GL1800, $165 for front/$230 for rear on GL1500.

The tread design is interesting...

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby themainviking » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:34 am

Dusty Boots wrote:Hope with that centre 'rib', it doesn't 'hunt' tar snakes/road imperfections/grated metal surfaces etc!


I have used the Dunlop D250s a couple of sets worth, and they have that center channel on the front tire. In my opinion it contributes to a very slight front end wobble. I also have just bought a set of E3 tires to put on, and will give them a try. I have had several other brands that did not have that center channel on the front tire and they all rode without that characteristic tiny wobble. I hope that rib on the E4 is not a step backwards for tires by Dunlop. Incidentally, the smoothest handling front tire I have ever had on a wing has been the Avon Cobra. Too bad the rear Cobra tire was problematic.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Dusty Boots » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:23 am

Ya ...... all the other front tires that I've tried that had a 'ribbed' centre section on the front tire did not handle very well and were adversely affected by grated surfaces/grooved pavement/tar sakes/road imperfections etc far more than a tire that has the tread that goes entirely across the face of the tire, like the current E3.
I think the original OEM Dunlop K177 and the Bridgestone Battle Axe BT 45 tie for the worst handling front tires I've ridden on, (even when aired up to 41+ PSI) while riding the 1500! :roll:
Luckily I installed a new E3 up front in the later part of last year, so it should get me through most of this year. (I normally average at least 24,000 mi on the front)
Maybe I should snap up another one before they become 'unobtainium' this fall/next year! :cry:

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby The Bus Driver » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:54 am

I was looking for the new Dunlop E4 for my 1998 GoldWing SE on the wingstuff website today...The rear tire was going for $209.99.with free shipping..I am getting ready to replace the E3 that's on the bike now and may give this new E4 a try. :D

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Dusty Boots » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:02 am

If you change your mind, you can get the Dunlop E3 MT for $173.88, delivered! :idea:

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Big Red 94 » Sun May 01, 2016 9:16 am

Having run the elite 3 front and rear, I was impressed with only the rear. I hated the front so I switched to a Bridgestone which was a hell of a lot better. The Dunlop moved around to much and felt skatie, worse on the wet roads. The tyre combo of a Bridgestone front and a Dunlop rear feels fine and I can hook it into corners without a problem.They actually match each other pretty well. I am told that we may not see the Elite 4 in Australia for some time. So I am looking forward to readers opinions

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Petelangdon » Sun May 01, 2016 11:07 am

I have always run the E3s on my 88 1500 I tried the Bridgestones one time trying to eliminate some of the tire noise. Big mistake the Bridgestones were a lot noisier and did not last as long I will try the Elite 4 on it for my next change. Just sold on the Dunlap tires for now.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby jfredman » Mon May 02, 2016 1:43 pm

I'll be anxious to read about your experiences with the Elite 4's. I've had several sets of the E-3's but run Bridgestones now. I ride aggressively and get much better wear and more mileage out of the Bridgestones. I've never had problems with cupping with the Bridgestone's either.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Sonnyd9 » Mon May 02, 2016 4:08 pm

I have a Dunlop Elite 3 MV85B15 Rear Tire and 130/90-16 Front D404 this combination works extremely well on my 85 Aspencade. I use Janet as a commuter during the Michigan riding months (April 1 through Nov 22). She has been through a lot of tires and this combo works the best for my riding approx 45 miles daily and the crews long touring trips. I have made the mistake of trying a 404 on the rear but will stick to the elite3's. Typical wing riding 11000 to my best year a couple years ago 17010 miles a year. We went to Mount Rushmore and the smoke out in Rockingham N.C. . I will be putting a Elite 3 on the Front Mid summer if all goes well.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby dingdong » Tue May 03, 2016 7:58 am

The increased mileage claim must be compared to the newer style E3. They claim 18000 miles (three times cross country). I have never got less than 25,000 miles with the old style single compound E3 tires. Hate the noise and cupping so will wait for a consensus before I buy a new set. I now use Avon Venoms with good wear and just slight cupping.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby PRACTIKALGUY » Tue May 10, 2016 2:24 pm

I've been running E3s front and rear on my '83 Aspencade since May '14. They also rebuilt my front forks at the same time; the improvement was night and day. I had no idea how bad the ride was before. They seem to be a good quality tire.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby RoughRider1 » Wed May 11, 2016 2:27 pm

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Grindl » Thu May 12, 2016 9:21 am

Was surprised by the number of comments making reference to "cupping" on tires . Interesting that most of the people related it to the tire . I guess it's possible that a particular tire design can have a cupping problem , but here is what I learned about that issue . Cupping can be , and usually is , caused by one or more of the following :
Low air pressure
Tire / wheel out of balance
Improperly balanced wheel / tire
Bad or worn-out shocks
Dry or Worn out axle / wheel bearings

Cupping on a front tire can even be caused by a improperly adjusted steering stem .

I've only ridden on one brand of tire other than Dunlop in my fifty-four riding years , O-N-C-E ; and it almost cost me my life . Never again . The E3's were okay for handling ; but mileage sucked , and I went back to the Elite II, (white Letter) on the next set . Since my riding takes me from one end of this great country to the other , and top to bottom , the last thing I want to think about is the tires I'm riding on . I'm a Dunlop guy , start to finish .

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby hlh1 » Thu May 12, 2016 9:33 am

I sure hope we can hear of some E4 ride reports on this Dunlop Elite 4 thread.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby WingAdmin » Sun May 29, 2016 5:07 pm

I saw some Elite 4's (both GL1500 and GL1800) at Cyclemax this past week, he just got them in on Friday, so they are definitely out there. I think we should be hearing some reports soon.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby cardinal » Sun May 29, 2016 10:03 pm

I was offered Elite 4's, for my 1998 Goldwing, 3 weeks ago, so they are available. I decided to stick with Shinko's until we hear how the E 4's do.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby rbode » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:05 am

Recently I sold a '89 GL1500. I have owned it for 25 years it had Dunlop E3s - There was cupping on the front tire enough to make noise - It started about a year after they were installed. Called Dunlop to see if they would do anything. That was a big brick wall. I ended up replacing the front tire with another E3 to match the rear. Hopefully the new owner will have better luck than I did. The 2008 1800 I just bought had Shinko tires and they were cupped and not in good shape. I am sure it was due to low pressure the previous owner didn't seem to be too mechanical as I am finding out now. I took the wing in for new tires in April and asked for the E4s they wouldn't be available till May 1st, but the dealer was able to get a set for me. They said I was the 1st bike they had installed them on. I now have about 3k miles on them and so far I have to say I like them so far. Handling is good in the curves and straight high speeds low noise and smooth. We will see about the cupping or other issues as the summer goes on.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby toanogreen » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:17 pm

Does this mean that they are getting rid of the Elite 3s? I'm not to keen on the new design.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby rbode » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:36 pm

I don't know if the E-3s will be discontinued or not, but I was not going to buy another set.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Pope82 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:34 pm

I have E3's on my 84' aspencade 1200 and I have put almost 8,000 miles on them so far with no visible wear but they like to go where they want in the rain and on tar snakes unless I drop the psi to 32 to 34 ; So, when ordering tires for my 89' 1500 I figured I would take a gamble on a set of E4's. I have kept them at 40 psi front and back . I have found that I have got to the point where tar snakes, wet roads ,and the man hole covers, reflective line , etc. Don't even concern me any more . There is a nasty 15 mph 90 degree turn a little ways from my house that is covered in tar snakes and while riding the 1200 with E3's I have to slow down to 10mph(5mph when wet). I can take the turn on the 1500 with E4's doing 35mph(20mph when wet) with no wondering or traveling what so ever and no noticeable noise at low or high speeds. I will definitely be putting E4's on my 1200 when it comes time to change them out. I have only had the E4's for about a month so I don't have enough input for the longevity of them but I will up date later on once I put a couple 1,000 miles on them.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby hlh1 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:26 pm

Sounds like I'll be installing E4s this winter!

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby cardinal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:19 pm

E4's and Shinko's seem to handle tar snakes the same. I have Shinko my friend has E4's. Both of us have less than a thousand miles on our new tires. In California, neither of us has any problem with tar snakes. In Utah, we could both feel some slippage on the front tire
when we hit tar snakes in the curves. This was up above the Heber Valley where it was reasonable cool.
Go figure.....

Edit to add that the groove down the middle of the E4 seems to have no effect on a GL 1800. There were SERIOUS rain grooves in Utah, and neither I nor my friend detected any sort of vibration or wandering from our bikes.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4

Postby Happytrails » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:33 pm

Really didn't like E3's so it would take a lot of good reviews for me to try E4's. I wish they made Michelin PR 4's for our bikes. :D


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