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9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby dingdong » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:18 am



They have done it again. The most liberal/overturned court in the country has taken a step to abolish the 2nd amendment.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-no-car ... 39817.html

Edit: "We hold that the Second Amendment does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public,"


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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:36 am

This is just another step towards abolishing the Second Amendment.

When rulings like this are made, you've got to wonder, have they even read the Second Amendment?

Too many people are already convinced they need a permit. So all a government agency needs to do, when you file for a permit, is simply say no.
Just like over 2,000 permit applications mentioned in the article. Denied by a governmental agency that cannot guarantee the safety of the applicant.

I better quit now. :evil:
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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby thunderwing » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:28 am

The times that we live in at best demand having better choices in terms of living in a state that is pro-gun. I presently live in NY, and the time for a choice to live in another state, such as Pennsylvania, is coming quickly.

When I read an article like this, I thank god that I don't live in California, and will soon be an ex-resident of NY ASAP, with NY not being pro-gun being one of many reasons why it's best to move to another state.

It's funny how politicians have armed protection whether it be via their own concealed carry permit or armed guards, police or private, but when it comes down to the regular joe we get the shaft.....double standard if you ask me. These people need to be called to task on this and remember we have a constitution that is the rule of the land, this can never turn into Australia where they took the right to own a gun away.

I'm preaching to the choir here, as I've seen many pro-gun postings here with regard to carrying on the wing.

I respect your rights, and encourage you to exercise your free speech and your second amendment rights which were accorded to us with the founding of our United States.

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Postby dingdong » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:40 am

What really frightens me is what will happen in this upcoming presidential term (depending on the outcome) when perhaps up to 4 Supreme Court justices will be replaced. There is a possibility that this decision won't be overturned if all of these justices are as liberal as 4 of the current justices. We will be in deep doo doo.
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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:53 am

Crimes involving a gun is blamed on the gun, not the criminal.
A judge and jury will try and convict a criminal and he will be sentenced accordingly. But "justice" is in the hands of the government.
Waiting 10 or 15 years to execute a murderer is not justice and is not a deterrent. Murderers, rapists and child molesters hanging from a gallows is justice and a deterrent. It also prevents the worst from re-offending!
When criminals get "early release", get another gun and re-offend, over and over by many felons, a picture is painted of a major "gun" problem. A picture cheerfully pointed to by politicians and liberals that want to enforce their will on everyone else.
They are urinating on your leg and trying to tell you its rain! There is no such thing as "gun violence" the problem is "criminal violence" created by politicians pandering to criminals.
When the people take justice back from the government, it will be a much more polite society and criminals will once again live in fear of the police.
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Postby billbob » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:46 pm

We the American tax paying people and the good retired people and our vets that help keep us safe are getting the old shaft up you know where. Sad times in the USA.

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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby thunderwing » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:52 pm

Hillary must not make it in.....the supreme court would get stacked with liberals, and it would be a disaster, rest assured it would be pandemonium if they tried to grab the guns, but this can never happen, Trump must win this one.
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Postby brettchallenger » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:09 pm

Hillary must not make it in


She is the bookies' favourite here I'm afraid. 1-3 against. The odds for Mr Trump are 2-1.

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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby FM-USA » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:41 pm

Curious and a scenario:
IF it's construed that a person using a gun in a murder (through the [eyes skyward] new law) the manufacture is found guilty of having it made available for said use as a weapon for killing.
Is this not the same...
A judge releases a suspect due to a loop hole or only having circumstantial evidence that cannot detain said subject yet everyone knows said suspect will kill when released. Said released subject goes and kills someone as he said he would, isn't that judge just as guilty as said gun manufacture?
ALSO, a multi time convicted drunk driver is released then kills someone while drunk driving. Shouldn't the last judge be held accountable for releasing said person knowing all to well he will again get drunk and drive?

I know this is a bit of a stretch but you get my drift. I'm not up on the deep details of legal systems rules and laws, so correct my thoughts where needed.
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The reason for this comparison is...
As long as judges continue to throw out menial driving infractions, burned out 'X' light, improper headlight aiming or failure to dim bright lights, non use of turn signal when required, etc. etc., this person feels no obligation to follow any menial "rules of the road" laws. Told to me by "SEVERAL" cops, as time goes by cops refuse to give tickets for menial infractions knowing the judge will not uphold the ticket and just toss it. Cops say it's a waste of time and effort if judges don't follow up and adhere to our laws.
So eventually we become a disrespectful and lawless society. Sorta like to what's going on in today's recent news.
NOW.....
If you step this scenario in reverse and take today's riots and murders, one can blame the judges for it happening.

LIKE I SAID, it's a stretch but as I look back when I started driving (late 1960's) and was hauled into court for minor infractions (like running through a yellow light or 3 mph over), so I sat in court the whole day watching and listening to how judges operated and why they made judgments the way they did.
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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby dingdong » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:18 am

I keep telling myself that the American people will wake up and see the light. Then I remember the last 2 elections. Now I'm afraid the liberal indoctrination our children are receiving in the public schools system is working. Courts like the 9th circuit exist and liberal activist judges who care nothing about the constitution are becoming the norm. I keep forgetting however that the constitution is a living document. (In their opinion) :x :evil: :x
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Postby FM-USA » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:58 am

dingdong wrote:I keep telling myself that the American people will wake up and see the light. Then I remember the last 2 elections. Now I'm afraid the liberal indoctrination our children are receiving in the public schools system is working. Courts like the 9th circuit exist and liberal activist judges who care nothing about the constitution are becoming the norm.
I keep forgetting however that the constitution is a living document. :x :evil: :x

Like any living thing, with all the Amendments politicians keep shoving down it's throat,... it will eventually puke. :oops:

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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby dingdong » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:09 am

FM-USA wrote:
dingdong wrote:I keep telling myself that the American people will wake up and see the light. Then I remember the last 2 elections. Now I'm afraid the liberal indoctrination our children are receiving in the public schools system is working. Courts like the 9th circuit exist and liberal activist judges who care nothing about the constitution are becoming the norm.
I keep forgetting however that the constitution is a living document. :x :evil: :x

Like any living thing, with all the Amendments politicians keep shoving down it's throat,... it will eventually puke. :oops:

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I don't mind amendments if they are enacted through due process provided for by the constitution and ratified by the states. When changes are made by judges and accepted as law then I have a problem.
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Postby flash1942 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:55 am

We all know that the ultimate goal is to gain control of the population by eliminating guns. But the sad truth is that many more people are killed,injured by prescription or illegal drugs. Even considering drugs prescribed by doctors in error. I think I even read that traffic fatalities,drugs combined are massively greater than all gun events.

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Postby FM-USA » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:58 am

But somehow drug overdoses and vehicle fatalities are not as gloriously newsworthy as almost anything with a gun.
...(enter Rag-Mag headlines)
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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby Grindl » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:55 pm

When I heard this the other day ; I laughed so hard I nearly peed myself . Why you ask ?
I LIVE IN ARIZONA ! We have very simple gun laws here . They are called the SECOND AMMENDMENT ! Understand that part of their ruling read that they would leave these decisions up to states to enforce , as state law currently read , or would be changed . Meaning : Residents of the Great State of Arizona have had no change in their gun laws , nor would they , in the future . As voted on , and passed by the Legislature and the citizens of Arizona .
For all those who have sat by for decades and didn't get involved in helping shape your state gun laws , support the NRA & GOA , and beat the loud-mouthed anti-gun socialists into submission , you really have no one to blame for your current local laws and mess but yourselves . And now the hue and cry , and gnashing of teeth . Sorry folks ; but I've been more than out-spoken regarding gun rights my entire life , to include these pages , and been chastised by members for my stance . Stop whining and put on your big girl panties and do something about it before it's to late . If it already isn't to late ....Join pro-gun organizations . Raise total hell with your so-called elected officials , on a daily basis . Be publicly vocal about gun issues , at the gas station , grocery store , hardware store , or any other public venue . Yes ; You'll lose some "acquaintance's" but trust me , those low-life back-stabbers were never your friends , and you're much better off without them .
Besides ; They'll be the first ones to come running to you for protection later . Because they are GUTLESS sheep . :roll: :roll: :roll:

Like it or not ; The time is coming when the people of this nation are going to have to stand up and make a choice once again . To be a free people ; or to be a flock of SHEEPLE. If you aren't prepared ; you'd better get prepared , and fast . Shillary has made her anti-gun , police state position clear to all , so don't say you weren't warned . Stassi - KGB - Gestapo . The police of the "Political Class". Any questions ? Good . Class is over .

And go out and find and buy a good Un-registered weapon of the type and caliber of your choice . And 500+ rounds of ammo . The criminals , Thugs , Gang-bangers & Terrorists do . And the Govt. doesn't bother them now . Do they ? The Feds only come after the tax-payin , law abiding citizens .

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Postby flogger » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:44 pm

Then someone shoots a hundred folks in Orlando this weekend... Hell ya, I carry...
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Postby thunderwing » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:39 am

Went to order pepper spray on amazon the other day, since I live in NY I cannot buy pepper spray unless I buy it in person and register my sale with the appropriate paperwork and ID......Ridiculous, time to move out to a gun friendly, self defense friendly state....pathetic....were there someone packing a weapon in the club in orlando much of this carnage would have never occurred....I say don't blame guns, put the blame on isis where it belongs.....Liberal bastards!!!
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Postby FM-USA » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:35 am

naaaa.... put the blame on the Chinese, they invented gun powder and the mechanism to shoot projectiles from.
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Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:32 am

The Orlando shooting brings up another question regarding defending ourselves. With or without a weapon would you really be able to defend yourself? Please don't interpret this as criticism of the folks in Orlando. It's just that I would like to think I would not just stand around and let some guy shoot me and 100 other people without attempting to stop him. It happened on flight 93 even though they knew they would probably die some guys tried to stop the hijackers. I was taught to defend myself by my parents, I guess not so much anymore.
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Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:42 am

Understand that part of their ruling read that they would leave these decisions up to states to enforce , as state law currently read , or would be changed . Meaning : Residents of the Great State of Arizona have had no change in their gun laws , nor would they , in the future . As voted on , and passed by the Legislature and the citizens of Arizona .

And just what part of this are you falling for??????????????????? One step at a time just like boiling a frog.
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Postby suvcw04 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:30 am

Florida has VERY friendly gun laws.

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Postby Grindl » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:25 am

Hey Ding-Dong ; I'm really not tryin to start anything ole buddy , But you haven't spent to much time in Zona , have you ?
Best gun laws in the nation.
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The Odumbo regime already doesn't like us out here in Zona , and we could give a rat's butt less. And it certainly isn't going to change "Our" position or attitudes on 2A or OUR gun laws . We are the #1 gun friendly state in the nation , according to every poll and the GOA & NRA . Simple attitude here ......MOLON LABE' !

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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby dingdong » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:46 am

Grindl wrote:Hey Ding-Dong ; I'm really not tryin to start anything ole buddy , But you haven't spent to much time in Zona , have you ?
Best gun laws in the nation.
Home of Sheriff Joe
Home of Sheriff Babeau
H.B. 1070
The Odumbo regime already doesn't like us out here in Zona , and we could give a rat's butt less. And it certainly isn't going to change "Our" position or attitudes on 2A or OUR gun laws . We are the #1 gun friendly state in the nation , according to every poll and the GOA & NRA . Simple attitude here ......MOLON LABE' !


I'm on your side. I understand all that. Oklahoma is one of the most gun friendly states in the country. I'm just being facetious by referencing what you said about leaving the decisions up to the states. If a Federal ban is ever upheld it will trump all state laws. Never believe what they say. They want to and will never stop trying to ban and or confiscate all guns. Just like the Nazis did in Germany. It is the liberal's ultimate goal above all others. Look at what is happening right now with Orlando. The liberals and Obama can't not blame guns for this tragedy. It's an automatic reaction it's so ingrained in their agenda.
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Re: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

Postby FM-USA » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:46 am

An anonymous quote:

"The day a gun picks itself up and starts shooting, is the day we ban guns."
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Postby Grindl » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:02 pm

You are correct . Funny how the liber-progressive Fascist's are always screaming their anti-gun rhetoric , while hiding behind their phalanx of armed , gun-toting guards . Or carrying their ill-legal handguns on the floor of the Senate , as per Feinstein , or Princess Pelosi on the floor of the peoples House . Un-licensed , Unregistered , and no CCW , either ! And illegally concealed .....Any one of you reading this attempt to take a handgun on the floor of the Senate , or the House , will be facing a ten year stretch in Club Fed , for even trying it . But... "Justice" ; is for "JUST-US" !
Meanwhile ; as Commissar Odumbo and "Shrill-ary" demand more gun bans and gun control laws , they are also calling for a increase in the number of Muslims immigrants to be allowed into the country , on "Humanitarian" grounds . Seriously ? These are the people who vow , on a daily basis , in their prayers to Allah , to kill the enemy for the glory of Islam .

So let me see if I've got this right : Odumbo and "Shrill-ary" want to dis-arm us , while bringing in a half million Muslim "Refugees", to spread the Caliphate to the U.S. , and tell the American people how this is good for us , in the name of world peace , love and harmony .

And in reference to the 9th Circuit ? I hope you all know that Court is the most Over-turned Court in the Nation , for their discriminatory and Un-constitutional rulings , bar no other court . But the Dems will try to push this ruling into the Supreme Court , if possible , in this term , because they have a 4-4 tie , which would allow the ruling to stand , and become Un-constitutional Law . And people think they don't have a "Plan"...

We've already thrown the "TRASH" out of this country once . Guess it's about time to do it again .There is no room for a "Political Class" in a free Democratic Republic . Rant over .




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