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Am I the only one?

Postby minimac » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:54 am



Am I the only guy that prefers to use the centerstand on his 'Wing? In my travels, almost every Goldwing I've spotted is on its' sidestand. I rarely, if ever, use mine. I realize running the Austone tire on the back has made raising the bike onto the centerstand a lot easier, but I always did so anyway. I like the extra measure of stability.



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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby dingdong » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:04 am

The only time I use the center stand with the 1500 is when at home and parked for extended period. I have a ride off stand on the 1000 so I tend to use it more often due to ease of use and side stand smoke. Why do you use yours all the time? Just curious.
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:51 am

I only ever use the center stand at home. The bike is plenty stable on the side stand, perhaps more so, because the distance between the contact points on the ground is that much greater.

My very first bike, when I was 17, I used to park on the center stand everywhere, for the same reason - I thought it was more stable. Until one day I came out after I had left it parked for an hour or two, and found it laying on its side. The feet of the center stand had sunk into the hot asphalt until a light breeze just pushed the bike over. That would not happen on the side stand.

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby minimac » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:26 am

WingAdmin wrote:..... Until one day I came out after I had left it parked for an hour or two, and found it laying on its side. The ̶f̶e̶e̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶e̶n̶t̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ sidestand had sunk into the hot asphalt until a light breeze just pushed the bike over....

I fixed the quote to relay what happened to me.

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby themainviking » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:04 pm

minimac wrote:
WingAdmin wrote:..... Until one day I came out after I had left it parked for an hour or two, and found it laying on its side. The ̶f̶e̶e̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶e̶n̶t̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ sidestand had sunk into the hot asphalt until a light breeze just pushed the bike over....

I fixed the quote to relay what happened to me.


The hot pavement issue is corrected on the sidestand with a sidestand foot plate. I use one all summer.
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:05 pm

When I park my 1500 for the night, I use the centrestand.
When in use during the day, I usually just use the sidestand

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby Mh434 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:38 pm

Around here, concrete is rare in parking lots, and asphalt rules. On hot days, I've seen LOTS of bikes leaning waaaay beyond the design limits of their side stands. On hot days, I use my center stand. It's far easier than picking the bike back up (and repairing the damage). :roll:

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby Breakdancer » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:23 pm

I use my center stand almost all the time. Why?? Because I have one and my HD friends don't. Silly reason but hey, why did the mountain climber climb the mountain? Because it was there. Why do I use my center stand? Because I can. :lol:
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby HALBUDD » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:19 pm

I use the center stand when shes parked in the garage but all ways use the side stand when out and about. Here are some pics of some wings that were on their side stands and what happened after a thunderstorm rolled thru.
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby brettchallenger » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:08 am

I use the center stand when shes parked in the garage but all ways use the side stand when out and about. Here are some pics of some wings that were on their side stands and what happened after a thunderstorm rolled thru.


I don't really understand what has happened in these pics or the role that a thunderstorm has played. The bikes are on their right hand sides ie the opposite side to the side stand. I presume a sudden wind has not blown them over - such a gust would surely have blown over machines on their centre stands too. The parking ground looks quite level, so I assume they haven't rolled (and you would surely leave the bike in gear in those circumstances). None of the other bikes in the background seem to be similarly affected. Have I missed something?
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby dingdong » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:20 am

That is strange. Some of them have even rolled over and past the crash bars.
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby HALBUDD » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:08 pm

This was from wingding in Fort Wayne In. the temps were in the 90s to 100s we had to use kickstand plates to keep the bikes from sinking into the blacktop.This was a bad thunderstorm with straight line winds it blew these bikes right over and many more. It also put the Harley show tent up in a tree and damaged some of their display bikes.It was a mess at the fairgrounds there were helmets all over the place. If they had been on their center stands they would have had a lot more damage to them. You can see a lot of them were attached to their trailers.There was a trailer up the hill in the back the guy did not put anything in front of the wheels to keep it from rolling. The wind pushed it all the way across the parking lot and into the side of a nice 1800. the tongue of the trailer punched a hole into the engine.--------------------------------Hal
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby detdrbuzzard » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:52 pm

I remember that budd, the ground was still plenty warm after the storm passed through and my wing was starting to sink when we left
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby HALBUDD » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:09 pm

Hay Doc ya when me and Jamie had just got his bike out of the tire guys shop at the fair grounds after they put a new stem on the front tire we saw the storm coming and got the heck out of there before it hit. We made it back to the hotel just as it cut lose.----------------------Hal
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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:14 am

HALBUDD wrote:This was from wingding in Fort Wayne In. the temps were in the 90s to 100s we had to use kickstand plates to keep the bikes from sinking into the blacktop.This was a bad thunderstorm with straight line winds it blew these bikes right over and many more. It also put the Harley show tent up in a tree and damaged some of their display bikes.It was a mess at the fairgrounds there were helmets all over the place. If they had been on their center stands they would have had a lot more damage to them. You can see a lot of them were attached to their trailers.There was a trailer up the hill in the back the guy did not put anything in front of the wheels to keep it from rolling. The wind pushed it all the way across the parking lot and into the side of a nice 1800. the tongue of the trailer punched a hole into the engine.--------------------------------Hal


I remember this. I had my bike ont he sidestand, with a plate (which I normally use only on grass/dirt, or on a hot day on asphalt). It was in excess of 100 degrees there that day, the hottest weather in which I have ever ridden.

That was not just an average "thunderstorm" - it was an extremely severe storm, with very high winds. There was a LOT of damage done, not just some bikes tipped over.

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby Grindl » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:13 pm

I'd have to say I use both stands . And it is based more on situation , area of the country , and current and prevailing weather conditions . And the pavement I'm parking on . If I pull in somewhere , on a trip , and I see side-stand gouges in the asphalt , I'll use the side-stand with a plate under it . For what-ever reason ; this seems to be more of a issue through-out the mid-west , than the far west . I think the paving companies out west use more aggregate and ground rubber in the asphalt out here , and it makes it less susceptible to high temps . I try to use the center-stand when-ever possible , simply because I firmly believe it is better for longevity on the motor . You are keeping all the hot oil equally spread in the bottom-end , thus distributing the heat equally through-out the engine , and allowing the engine to dissipate the heat more equally . Could be one of the factors that cause the right side head gasket to burn out first . All the heat goes to that side when it's on the side-stand . Heat surge to the head / Block gasket joint . Never seen a original factory left-side head gasket go bad before the right side . But it's just a theory .

To those who live outside the U.S. ; there are periods throughout the spring and summer months where we get converging weather patterns in the middle of the country . This is the cause of our hundreds of tornadoes , and something called a , "Micro-burst". This is a isolated weather system , very localized , and has extremely high winds , in excess of 120-150 mph , and usually straight down out of the sky . Along with hail , heavy rain , and thunderstorms following . That is what happened in Indiana at the bike meet . And glad to say that only machines were damaged , and no loss of life . Trust me ; ya don't want to be caught out in the open , in a Micro-burst . Ever .

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Re: Am I the only one?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:37 pm

I should mention that micro-bursts come straight down, until they hit the ground, at which point they spread out in all directions - at wind speeds potentially well in excess of 100 mph. These brought down many airplanes before it was fully understood what the phenomena actually was, and now all large airports have detectors around the area to warn of them before airplanes venture into them.

It's particularly dangerous for airplanes landing or taking off, where they will hit the wind rushing out from the microburst as they approach it, which causes the airplane to balloon (rise up) from added lift. The pilots then reduce power and/or pitch up to compensate - and suddenly they are through the microburst, and that massive headwind turns into a massive tailwind, and the airplane falls out of the sky.





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