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Need some Trike advice

Post by Blackacre1066 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:34 am



It's time to look for a trike. I currently have a 94 1500A with 52000 miles on it. It is paid for😄. Would it be better to have it CSC triked and add CB and Bluetooth or would it make more sense to buy a 05-09 1800 with 100k that is already triked? Cost on them appears to be in the low $20s.

Suggestions and rational will be appreciated.



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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by themainviking » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:48 am

According to a friend of mine who had his 1500 triked, the 1500s are a tad underpowered, and use too much fuel when triked. The GL1800 may afford you a bit more git up and go, and a longer distance between fuel stops. Same friend sold his triked 1500 and bought an 1800, which he then triked. He does say he lost some comfort, but it was worth it to be able to keep up with the pack. The foregoing is all third party hearsay for legality and liability reasons, :lol: :lol:
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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by newday777 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:47 am

To get yours triked will be @12,000-$13,000+/-.
Putting a trike conversion on your bike will not be worth as much as an 1800 trike at the point you decide to sell it later on. Sell your 1500 and get an 1800 already triked. There are low mile 1800 trikes fairly reasonable available. I've seen a couple 2005 with under 25,000 miles sold in the spring in SoCal for $17,500-$19,000. Plus the 1800 has more power.

In the For Sale section is this 07 w/Motortrike kit for $21,600 @30,000 mile in Illinois.
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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by tfdeputydawg » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:07 am

Find a 1500 or an 1800 that has a Hannigan conversion on it to test ride. You will know what you want after that ride!!!
Both bikes are fine for "power" when triked! You don't loose any comfort, as a natter of fact, the ride is smoother with the extended wheel base, wider stance and IRS suspension of the Hannigan.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by WingAdmin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:51 am

It's interesting - originally people were triking their GL1100's and GL1200's, and it was great!

Then the GL1500 came out, with its abundance of low-end torque, and suddenly the GL1100 and GL1200 were unacceptable trike platforms because they were "underpowered."

Then with the GL1800, with even more power, the GL1500 is suddenly not a good trike platform, because it is "underpowered."

It all depends on what you want from the trike. Do you want something that can still even lift the front wheel if you try, and can accelerate fast enough that you need to hang on tight? Then you're probably looking at a GL1800. If you're looking for a comfortable cruiser and aren't really that interested in hard acceleration, then any of the bikes would be a suitable platform.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by Blackacre1066 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Thanks to all. Saw a lovely 2010 Hannigan but was out of pocketbook range. Picking up my 2007 Motortrike with 33K on Tuesday.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by jeffcosmo » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:21 pm

Hoping not to get flamed here, as this has always been a question for me that I have not had answered adequately:

Why a trike (meaning two wheels in the rear), instead of a sidecar??
For me, a sidecar makes more sense in that:
A) the bike can be returned to a single track conveyance fair easily.
B) the sidecar holds more stuff, a lot more, actually.
C) the wider track of a sidecar makes it more stable while cornering, unless the outfit is not setup properly (meaning the S/C weighs 1/3 of the bike, no less).
D) A sidecar can seat up to four, two in the 'car, two on the bike (obviously a larger 'car, but always three with any 'car).
E) It's easier missing potholes, etc. on a two-track vehicle than a three-track.
That's all that I can think of right now, awaiting what I have missed vis-a-vis the trike advantages.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by alwrmcusn » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:04 am

For jeffcosmo:
You have not missed anything. All of the points you stated are valid. But they also are the reasons many/most prefer the "trike" conversion. In other words if you want a side car ride, then get a side car ride. If you want a trike ride, then get a trike ride. A few years ago I personally considered several options before settling on the trike configuration.
I considered adding a side car. I decided I did not like the cornering oddities....yes I know you learn how.
I considered and really wanted the Can-Am Spyder...test rode two and found the steering to be really twitchy. I was told that they were not set up properly and/or I'd get used to it.
I considered the "training wheels" design...talked to a couple of riders who had that and found that they were less than thrilled with the handling and that the so called ease of switching from 2 to 4 wheel was not quite what was advertised.
So for me I decided, the bike (2009 RSV) was paid for so I opted for the Hannigan conversion. I really liked it. But that is not a selling point for you or everyone else.
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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by tfdeputydawg » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:53 am

Blackacre1066 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:51 pm
Thanks to all. Saw a lovely 2010 Hannigan but was out of pocketbook range. Picking up my 2007 Motortrike with 33K on Tuesday.
With the severe offset of the drive shaft(which Hannigan doesn't have)please make sure you find out the service interval on the U-joints/drive shaft and maintain that schedule!
You will love "triking"

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by newday777 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:58 am

tfdeputydawg wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:53 am
Blackacre1066 wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:51 pm
Thanks to all. Saw a lovely 2010 Hannigan but was out of pocketbook range. Picking up my 2007 Motortrike with 33K on Tuesday.
With the severe offset of the drive shaft(which Hannigan doesn't have)please make sure you find out the service interval on the U-joints/drive shaft and maintain that schedule!
You will love "triking"
Motortrike now offers a heavier duty driveshaft upgrade to try to cut down on their driveshaft failures. Will it help??? Only time will show the results but I do agree a straight driveshaft will last longer than an offset will.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by honda1982 » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:28 pm

I have 90 1500 hannigan its under powered compared to my 88 an milage is alot less i also have the extra fuel tank whitch heps i can still gets me 200 miles at least havent ran it out but thats where i fuel up at if not before that i like the ride compared to others i had tried it was trike in 98 before i got it. It was more expense to trike mine than to buy this one good luck

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by Blackacre1066 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:24 pm

A different trike question - 2007 Suspension pre-load panel - Its a Motor Trike conversion. The GW manual is not clear and neither is the panel.
(See picture). Up button increases both numbers, down decreases both numbers. Neither number panel pushes as a "memory". Can someone explain this? What should the number be for one up? Two up? How does the darn thing work?



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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by newday777 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:40 pm

Because motortrike doesn't use the stock preload adjuster from the wing, they use their own air bags to raise the rear end, the honda instructions are no longer used and no presets.

Google motortrike owners manual for 2007 gl1800 and go with those instructions to adjust the rear level.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by Blackacre1066 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:31 pm

Thanks Newday777 - found exactly what I needed!

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by newday777 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:34 pm

You are welcome. Sorry I didn't have the retrieval of all the information.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by Yvanhoe48 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:47 am

Hi guys,
Yes a trike. I've made this decision 3 years ago and I'm just delighted about it. The choice was a bit difficult but it came down to 2 trikes kit for my 2004 Goldwing 1800A . There was CSC California side car and MotorTrike. The CSC is awesome but pricy and very wide.... almost the width of a small sedan auto. I was looking at nearly 15 K US. The #2 was Motortrike and with over 200 dealership in the US and 3 close to me in Canada, the choice was the best one for me. I've ride over 12,000 miles with it and as far as I'm concerned MotorTrike is definitely one of the best if not # 1. At about 10K US for a complete kit installed by the dealer, with all the options, you can't go wrong. The ride is less smooth than a standard Goldwing but the stability and the easiness of cornering with a 4 degrees tilt in the fork is just .... bliss. Remember to put a rear end tire in front with reverse rotation (Michelin Pilot 15/20,000 miles) and you got yourself a superb cruising machine that you can ride into your very old age. I'm 69 and I'M planning to ride for at least another 5/6 years... God permitting.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by blackbird » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:41 pm

My wife and I decided to make the conversion to a trike as I am getting to the point of "age-related-things-can-go-wrong". But mainly that 2 chicken legs will have trouble holding up 1000# bike and rider/co-rider. We thoroughly enjoyed 2-wheel riding on the 08-1800 (along with an 1100, a BMW, a PC800), but I can safely say that I don't have some the immediate concerns riding the trike as opposed to 2 wheels. Also, my co-rider is licensed on the trike (required in WA state), so in the event I am unable to ride, she can get us to the next exit, town, hospital or whatever the situation demands.
We opted to trike our 1800, but there is a plethora of ready-made trikes out there. I chose the Roadsmith due to the longer wheelbase (axel not directly under co-rider which does result in a smoother ride in the back seat), independent suspension, anti-sway bar and extra fuel tank. So far everything is excellent. The only complaint about Roadsmith is their lack of putting a kit together to keep the brakes linked.

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:57 pm

Perhaps something with a little added functionality...



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Post by call-abe » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:33 am

Just returned from a month long, 3,400+ mile motorcycle journey across 9 States on my 1990 Goldwing Trike. It was a great ride! Anyway, as to the various questions raised in these discussions:

1) I would ALWAYS go with a conversion kit (i.e. simply adding the two "bogie wheels") and NOT a Hannigan or other similar version. Voyager as well as the one I have (Tow-Pac) are two nice kits that come to mind... Yes, you're then wearing three wheels instead of two (you keep the OEM center rear tire for power). HOWEVER: You get to KEEP the OEM luggage compartments and their greater space than allowed in those other trikes!

2) Besides keeping your luggage capacity (a highly important thing for me making the new Goldwing totally unacceptable), doing the conversion kit described allows you to not only keep a whole lot more of your luggage -- BUT A WHOLE LOT MORE OF YOUR CASH!!! You can purchase one of these type kits for perhaps under $5,000 and install them yourself. And getting a handy mechanic to do this wouldn't be too much additional. So with a used GL1500, say, and this kit: You may have a total cost of $12-15K. The Hannigan et. al. setups would perhaps give you a total cost, I'd assume, of AT LEAST $7-10K more!

3) What I've experienced in this older model Tow-Pac kit on my bike (purchased used by me with the kit on already) is one detraction besides wearing three tires instead of two in the back: The lack of any precise means of ALIGNING the trike tires. When I purchased this bike 1 1/2 years ago, one of the trike tires was only giving me about 400 miles of life! It was severely out of alignment. Since then, thru "Kentucky Windage" methods (i.e. a little here and a little there), I've gotten it to about 3K per tire and still am better adjusting things thru the use of improvised shims. But it sure would be great if some laser measure setup...or perhaps indicator plates could be contrived to more quickly and accurately set the alignments of the two "bogie wheels" one puts on!

Of course, buying those 8" trailer tires only costs about $25 per tire (including installation if purchasing from Walmart) -- which is A LOT cheaper than the auto tires on a Hannigan et. al.!!! But its a pain to change tires, especially on a longer trip - so better measures of setting up and keeping alignment should be contrived. (NOTE: My kit is an older model - perhaps that issue has already been solved by the manufacturers at Tow-Pac or Voyager...I don't know).

CONCLUSION

I bought my trike because my balance is slightly impaired by a motorcycle spill thanks the to Illinois Tollway and its poor road condition maintainance 15 years ago. I could ride two wheel style still, and could even detach my Tow-Pac kit if desiring to -- but getting a keeping the trike kit on makes my wife of 33 years sleep easier at night. (One of the compromises of marriage, eh?). As I progress further into my 60s and 70s, it may also increasingly come in handy as well. But I still get to ride...still get to travel - so it's fine by me.

Hope my insights prove helpful. I enjoy my motorcycle (which even being a 1990 GL1500 it has only 50K miles on it - and therefore may be my last bike over the coming years). It's a "head turner" where I see many men at stop lights looking longingly (and sadly) over -- and I know they, too, would wish to "escape" on it, too! (Poor bastards!) :) Anyway, a trike conversion kit I feel is the way to go unless you got plenty of money, and buy a brand new bike to make the huge expense of the alternative to even START to make sense. Ride well...and ride frugally my friends!!! :)

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Re: Need some Trike advice

Post by TheChief » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:13 am

I gotta jump in here.

My first "trike" was a '90 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 with a Voyager kit. The Yammy had 29K+ on the odo when I bought it. We put the Voyager on it because I had trouble keeping the bike up with the GF onboard (LONG story). Our first ride after the conversion was from Richmond to DC for Rolling Thunder. 75 mph was no sweat... Eventually we put over 25,000 miles on that rig. It had been neglected before I bought it, and it was starting to nickel and dime me, so I bought a '99 SE with just over 50K on the odo.

I took the Voyager off the Yammy and put it on the Wing. Added Progressieve 416's, Progressive fork springs, some 'flame thrower' HIDs, upgraded to fiber glass antennas, and we proceeded to add 15K to the odo.

This year my intentions were to do my normal winter maintenance and upgrades, but that all changed on October 20th.

My GF was out running errands and on the way home she spotted this gorgeous 1500 with a Voyager. She comes in hollering, "Get dressed, I have something to show you..." I get up, get dressed, and we head out in the truck. About 10 minutes from the house I spot the bike sitting in a muffler shop parking lot with a for sale sign taped to the windshield.

I roll up, jump out of the truck, and I'm flabbergasted. Here is a 2000 SE with a Voyager, its the same color as my '99, it has some "bling" and some extra lights (that I'm taking off), and it is gorgeous. I call the number on the sign, we dicker for a minute, and I head to the bank to get a check.

An hour and a half later I'm riding her home, and she is sweet....

Now then to get back on topic, My Yammy and the '99 Wing got in the mid 30's for mileage, and that's with 500+ pounds of rider/passenger and the Voyager to haul around. Both bikes will cruise at 75 all day long.

The "new" bike has been very well cared for. It hasn't been ridden much recently, so it has some minor issues to deal with, but I can say it gets roughly the same mileage as the '99, and it handles like a dream.

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