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Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by Goldwinger 007 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:03 pm



Have a 2008 Goldwing 9,535 miles. Should I buy Deltran Battery Tender Jr. .........or...........Battery Tender Plus?



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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:49 pm

Goldwinger 007 wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:03 pm
Have a 2008 Goldwing 9,535 miles. Should I buy Deltran Battery Tender Jr. .........or...........Battery Tender Plus?
Unless you have a pressing reason for the Plus, I would go for the Battery Tender Jr - the only difference between the two is the amp capacity. The Jr. has a 0.75 amp capacity, the Plus has a 1.25 amp capacity. So the Plus can charge twice as fast...but in use, you would normally keep them connected most or all of the time, so a faster charging time really isn't of that much benefit.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by thrasherg » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:20 pm

I have run a Jr for the last 10 years and never had an issue, so I would suggest just going for that and save some money over buying the plus. The plus is useful for large batteries where recharging might take longer, so the higher current rating is useful. As the goldwing really doesn’t have a large battery (compared to cars and trucks) the Jr should be fine.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by Goldwinger 007 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:04 am

Thanks Gary. That makes perfect sense. I'm going to order the Battery Tender, Jr.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by raven41951 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:09 pm

The jr is all you need to keep the battery topped off. I have several Juniors but replaced them with the four output station to accommodate all the toys.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:57 pm

I always get the 2 amp version, for the reason that sometimes I use it on car sized batteries, or to bring up the battery on my 1800 if I forgot to plug in the Battery Tender when I pulled it into the shop..... ( 3 or 4 weeks not running will drain the battery enough it won't start )

I have done that twice over the last 18 months.... walk into the shop and look at the voltmeter and it is sitting on 10.5 volts :( :(

a 750 mA version might bring it back up in 3 weeks, and most likely will, but the 2 amp version will bring it up overnight enough for the bike to start... That happened to me just last Friday, went out to check the bike's voltmeter to make sure it would be ready to go because I planned to leave at 0700 Saturday morning.... a dead battery would delay my start so long, I would miss the rally meet.

The voltmeter was just barely above 10 volts, plugged in the Battery Tender, and at 0700 the bike started just like always.
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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by thrasherg » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:18 am

AZgl1800 wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:57 pm
I always get the 2 amp version, for the reason that sometimes I use it on car sized batteries, or to bring up the battery on my 1800 if I forgot to plug in the Battery Tender when I pulled it into the shop..... ( 3 or 4 weeks not running will drain the battery enough it won't start )

I have done that twice over the last 18 months.... walk into the shop and look at the voltmeter and it is sitting on 10.5 volts :( :(

a 750 mA version might bring it back up in 3 weeks, and most likely will, but the 2 amp version will bring it up overnight enough for the bike to start... That happened to me just last Friday, went out to check the bike's voltmeter to make sure it would be ready to go because I planned to leave at 0700 Saturday morning.... a dead battery would delay my start so long, I would miss the rally meet.

The voltmeter was just barely above 10 volts, plugged in the Battery Tender, and at 0700 the bike started just like always.
This is a valid point, but he is really using this as a charger and not a tender, a tender is meant to be connected and left connected during long periods of time when the bike is not used. It is probably cheaper to buy a cheap charger for use when you need to actually charge the battery rather than a 2 amp tender. I have a cigarette plug on my wing that is wired directly to the battery, it is intended to run compressors and accessories, because I never know if I will be using my bike the next day or in 2 weeks time, I put a cigarette plug on my tender, and every evening when I get home from work I just plug the tender into the cigarette socket. That way wether the bike is left for 12 hours or 12 days, the battery is always ready, and it is so easy to just plug/unplug the cigarette plug before and after a ride.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by raven41951 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:32 pm

I'm wondering what kind of drain you have on the battery. I got my 1800 last year at the end of the riding season and it sat in "storage" for the winter. I did not put the tender hardware on it so it sat unattended for 3 months. I got to it and put the key in and it fired right up.

Point is, if you leave a volt meter on it, its going to drain the battery. Any accessory connected directly to the battery and not completely off will drain the battery. Honda designed their own electronics to not leave a load on the battery when idle, but after market items will always drain the battery unless switched off or on a relay that will isolate it when off.

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:51 pm

thrasherg wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:18 am


This is a valid point, but he is really using this as a charger and not a tender, a tender is meant to be connected and left connected during long periods of time when the bike is not used. It is probably cheaper to buy a cheap charger for use when you need to actually charge the battery rather than a 2 amp tender. I have a cigarette plug on my wing that is wired directly to the battery, it is intended to run compressors and accessories, because I never know if I will be using my bike the next day or in 2 weeks time, I put a cigarette plug on my tender, and every evening when I get home from work I just plug the tender into the cigarette socket. That way wether the bike is left for 12 hours or 12 days, the battery is always ready, and it is so easy to just plug/unplug the cigarette plug before and after a ride.

Gary
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my Battery Tender is plugged into the standard 2-wire rubber plug adapter... it goes thru a fuse and straight to the battery terminals. That BT is left on the bike 24/365..... the only 'non-standard' current draw on my bike is an analog voltmeter that I wired direct to the battery "on purpose" because I want to be able to ascertain the batteries condition w/o having to go find a key... the VM current drain is less than the bike's standby current, so that is not an issue.

just because I bought a 2 amp BT does not mean I am trying to use it as a 'charger'... it just happens to have enough capability to do that on a slightly discharged battery.... whereas a 750 milliAmp version would take weeks to do the same thing.... why get hung up on whether I spent $17 for the little one, or $25 for the 2 amp version??

I have two big automatic chargers for big batteries and both have "Engine Start" capability.... however, neither of those can be used as a BT, they would ruin a small battery. and neither of them is rated for an AGM battery.
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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by topgun » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:41 am

John
Whenever I think 10.5 voltage it sounds like a battery with a week cell
As others mentioned leaving set during winter months I also could fire up my 1500 without additional charge and you KNOW how they need voltage! Haven't had the 18 long enough yet to winter.......

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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:50 pm

when I first purchased my 1800, it was signed over to me on 18 January two days before a bad snow storm.

I bought it from Honda of Russellville, AR and trailered it home as that is a long, cold, trip in the winter months and drizzling rain before that storm.... and I traded in my ST-1100 ( so enuff on trailers )

got the 1800 home, and no room to park it in the garage, so, I rolled it up onto the front porch and it sat there until March 1st or there abouts.... 5 weeks at least IIRC.

The temps finally climbed high enough for me to brave getting on the bike, and I now had a space for it in the shop.... so, I went to start it up.....

It started, but oh so slow did the starter turn.... don't know how low that battery was, but it was no where near 12 volts...

I said a lot of bad words to myself for not having unrolled a long extension cord, and plugging the Battery Tender up to it....

Thinking about this now, I went out and looked to see if I plugged it back in after getting home last night from a long run.... nope, but it is now.

The "always on" Analog voltmeter was showing 12.6 ish.... hard to be sure, it has 10-12-14 on the scale. Stays at 14+ a tiny bit when riding down the road.
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Re: Battery Tenders for GL1800

Post by raven41951 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:47 am

Battery Tender also has a digital voltmeter that plugs into the SAE plug. It has an auto off function and a button to activate it but I do not leave it attached jic. I ran the connector into the trunk with a 25 foot cord so I cab reach my tender easily. It rolls up in the trunk and I also have the BT USB adapter to power/charge accessories while riding.

I once left a usb adapter on the cable on my 1500. It has a little LED indicator to show it is active. After about 2-3 days the bike would not start. Threw is adaptor away and never had that problem again.



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