All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing


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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:05 pm



Holy cow, I thought I killed the thread! :mrgreen:

That is an excellent video! Thanks for posting!

Here's another excellent video:





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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:47 pm

A little "fluff" piece, but very nicely done. Turn up the sound, and go full screen. Two fingers of scotch is optional.




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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by Jambriwal » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:38 pm

Engine shut off feature 2 to 3 seconds. Good way to crash/ drop a bike if there is any hesitation on restart. This is a useless feature for a rider. Only reason to do this is slightly lower emission's / fuel mileage readings to satisfy EPA or other country requirements.
Just because you can engineer some features doesn't mean you should.

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:47 pm

Jambriwal wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:38 pm
Engine shut off feature 2 to 3 seconds. Good way to crash/ drop a bike if there is any hesitation on restart. This is a useless feature for a rider. Only reason to do this is slightly lower emission's / fuel mileage readings to satisfy EPA or other country requirements.
Just because you can engineer some features doesn't mean you should.
I'm pretty sure that "auto shut-off" feature, and then the restart when you twist the throttle, is Canada only.

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by FM-USA » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:16 pm

Auto shut-off is good for inner & near inner city riding, stoplights tend to be long and TOO frequent.

That system is a balance between saving fuel verses mechanical wear-n-tear costs.
Now since the Alt & Starter are in one, it's WILL BE COSTLY to repair. :twisted:

To me it's easier and cheaper to maintain my choice of shut-down at known long waits.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by thunderwing » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:56 pm

Wouldn't it be nice to have such thoughtful and deep pocketed spouses!!!






It's a couple phone thing....





Kinda shows how they feel about who they are marketing this bike to.....Gen X and younger as their target.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:38 pm

Yes, it is marketed to younger riders. And by younger I mean younger than 50, and can afford it.

I'm turning 69 next month, and I'm on my fifth Harley. I'm a touring rider, 40k in the last two years. And, make no mistake, it will be my last Harley. Look at my avatar, and you'll see that the '18 Wing won't be my first Honda, though. ;)

This thread has been very interesting, as has been the many threads on my Harley forums regarding the new Softail cruiser line, and the death of the Dyna line. Over 60% of existing Harley riders hate the Softails. And, on the several Honda websites/blogs I've been on, roughly 99% of existing Wing riders hate the new Wing, primarily because it's no longer huge enough to have big enough luggage capacity. And, on separate note, the vast majority of existing Yamaha riders like the new TC.

The comments are surprisingly similar: "My '99/'02/'07/'13 Harley/Honda is the best bike I've ever owned, and I'll never buy another." Then, why should Harley/Honda be building a bike for you?

Yamaha is building a touring bike that, by and large, existing Yamaha touring bike owners find very exiting. Harley is building a new line that both existing owners and potential new owners don't like. (Regarding younger buyers, Harley is, of course, crippled by the leather vested Hells Angels wannabe badass aura.)

Honda is building a touring bike that potential new owners will love.

Harley will lose, Yamaha will win, and Honda will win big.

I gotta tell ya, I'm more exited about the new Wing than I've ever been about another new bike in a long time.

A long, long, time. I can't wait.

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by raven41951 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:30 am

OK, its time for me to chime in. I have been reading the "99%" panning the new wing. I bought my 2016 wing a year ago now because I figured: how can they make it better? add Bluetooth? I read all the conjecture about the new front end, suspension etc. and went ahead with my purchase.

Now that I have had time to absorb as much information as I can remember (which gets less and less each year) and watched all the videos, I have decided that I am a 1 percenter. I love this new bike and I am planning to trade my 16 in on the new Airbag model if I can get a good enough deal. It seems to fit my riding style to a T.

BTW Idaho, my first bought by me ride was a '66 305 Super Hawk. Loved that bike.

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:04 am

raven41951 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:30 am
...BTW Idaho, my first bought by me ride was a '66 305 Super Hawk. Loved that bike.
Yeah, we've all got more than a few "I wish I still had it" regrets! :mrgreen: (Along with that 28" waist.)

My major struggle at the moment is red or blue. Leaning toward the red. My local dealer is a BMW/Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki dealer, but he told me he hasn't had a Wing on the floor in over 5 years. Up here in the Idaho panhandle is a major outdoors hunting and fishing area, so the ATV market is huge, and 75% of the bikes on Craigslist are dirt bikes. Only Harley sells touring bikes up here. But, the Honda dealer said he's already ordered a Goldwing Tour, 7 sp DCT, in red. Ooohhh...

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by Wingsconsin » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:04 pm

If money was no object for me...
I would have a BLUE one on order ASAP

Unfortunately -- money is an issue... and I will have to stick to my old Orange '02 for the foreseeable future.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by brettchallenger » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:18 am

Sorry if this has been mentioned, I haven't been through every single post. I note that there is a warning light for a "fog light", though this doesn't seem to be mentioned in the bike's specifications. Is this fog light on the front? High-intensity rear (red) fog lights have been compulsory on cars in Europe for decades but never on motorcycles. In fact, they have never been offered by manufacturers as a paid for extra either. I would have thought Honda could have included such an item on the new Goldwing.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:43 am

Fog lights are an optional accessory. They mount down low on either side of the front of the engine area.

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Post by brettchallenger » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:17 pm

Fog lights are an optional accessory. They mount down low on either side of the front of the engine area.


But presumably, these are front facing. There are no high-intensity rear lamps?
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:08 pm

Here are the front-facing fog lamps:

http://shop.powersports.honda.com/p/led ... 2018?pp=24

And the rear-facing extra brake lights:

http://shop.powersports.honda.com/p/led ... 2018?pp=24

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Post by brettchallenger » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:12 pm

Wow! $500 for two lamps.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by raven41951 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:13 am

Its a goldwing, you expected a freebie?

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Post by brettchallenger » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:10 am

With a bit of fiddling and the judicious use of a hammer, these would probably fit.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-2x-Univ ... CnMdzP_h8w
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Post by WingAdmin » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:39 am

Another new ad video...




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Post by brettchallenger » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:12 am

About as realistic as their pricing.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by IdahoHacker » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:26 pm

brettchallenger wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:12 am
About as realistic as their pricing.
Well, it's right in line with every other comparably equipped top-of-the-line touring bike.

Except for $43,000 CVO's, of course.

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Post by MikeB » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:25 pm

Nice video.

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Post by Rednaxs60 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:49 pm

Great video! Looking forward to seeing it at the Toronto bike show in January.
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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by ndfan77 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:52 pm

IdahoHacker wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:04 am
<snip...> My major struggle at the moment is red or blue. Leaning toward the red. My local dealer is a BMW/Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki dealer, but he told me he hasn't had a Wing on the floor in over 5 years. Up here in the Idaho panhandle is a major outdoors hunting and fishing area, so the ATV market is huge, and 75% of the bikes on Craigslist are dirt bikes. Only Harley sells touring bikes up here. But, the Honda dealer said he's already ordered a Goldwing Tour, 7 sp DCT, in red. Ooohhh...
I agonized over the blue / red choice when I bought my 2014 CTX 1300D two years ago -- for a good 45 minutes! I ended up choosing blue and for the following year often wondered whether I would have been happier with the red.

I bought my 2016 Wing in red a year ago, and haven't thought twice whether I would like another color better...

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

Post by ndfan77 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:23 am

thunderwing wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:56 pm
It's a couple phone thing....



Kinda shows how they feel about who they are marketing this bike to.....Gen X and younger as their target.

I sure wish they had shown those full-face helmets being stored in the trunk near the end of that video!

I absolutely love the new tech (even at 58). When I bought my 2016 Wing (while owning the 2014 CTX 1300D), I was surprised to find the tech on their "flagship" lagging so far what the 2014 CTX 1300D had (nearest major Honda dealer is two hours away and I bought the Wing sight-unseen from a dealer 300 miles away, after negotiating quite a bit via CycleTrader).

My biggest concerns with the 2018 Wing are:
  1. The trunk space. If two Schuberth C3 Pro's won't fit, that could be hard to work around (since I would definitely want to add the luggage rack with extra brake light, and can't imagine that fitting properly with an aftermarket trunk/lid [for increased capacity], should such an option materialize.)
  2. Why did Honda feel the need to provide wind deflectors as accessories. (Sure makes it sound like there's probably a pretty good increase in wind exposure without them.)
  3. Whether I should wait at least a year or more after such a major redesign.

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Re: All you need to know about the new 2018 Goldwing

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ndfan77 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:23 am
I sure wish they had shown those full-face helmets being stored in the trunk near the end of that video!

I absolutely love the new tech (even at 58). When I bought my 2016 Wing (while owning the 2014 CTX 1300D), I was surprised to find the tech on their "flagship" lagging so far what the 2014 CTX 1300D had (nearest major Honda dealer is two hours away and I bought the Wing sight-unseen from a dealer 300 miles away, after negotiating quite a bit via CycleTrader).

My biggest concerns with the 2018 Wing are:
  1. The trunk space. If two Schuberth C3 Pro's won't fit, that could be hard to work around (since I would definitely want to add the luggage rack with extra brake light, and can't imagine that fitting properly with an aftermarket trunk/lid [for increased capacity], should such an option materialize.)
  2. Why did Honda feel the need to provide wind deflectors as accessories. (Sure makes it sound like there's probably a pretty good increase in wind exposure without them.)
  3. Whether I should wait at least a year or more after such a major redesign.
The trunk space, in terms of fitting your helmets - you can't really know until you try!

As for the wind deflectors - they are extremely effective, as everyone who has them as aftermarket accessories today (myself included) knows. My suspicion: With the new suspension, Honda was able to narrow the fairing significantly, as there is no longer a big, wide, rotating triple tree in the front of it. This narrowing of the fairing saved weight and decreased aerodynamic drag, which increased mileage, which allowed the reduction of fuel carried, which also saved weight. The downside would be that more wind is going to enter the cockpit, by virtue of the fact that it is not being pushed out as far by the wider fairing. For those who find this new wind blast unacceptable, Honda is conveniently offering some outrageously overpriced pieces of plastic that deflect the wind outward more. I am 100% sure that Baker and others will soon offer much more reasonably priced aftermarket options.

As for waiting - consider this: The 1988 GL1500, a completely new design, was plagued with problems for the first two years, so much so that there was a model update in 1990 that revamped the throttles and transmission, after multiple recalls and service bulletins in place to fix the original issues.

The 2001 GL1800, a completely new design, and far more complex than the GL1500, was plagued with problems for the first couple of years, such as overheating, cracked frames and transmission failures.

The 2018 GL1800, a completely new design, is far more complex than the 2001 GL1800. Make your inference from that. ;)



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