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Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:47 am
by hap2
I had to get a tow truck to move my motorcycle.

The guy said he knew what he was doing.

But first, he didn’t bring dollys to move the front wheel of the bike forward. I asked why & he said “they are pretty ratchety”. So then he dragged the front wheel of the bike on the ground & onto the deck of the truck, probably causing damage to the front tire.

He put the 2 front straps around the top of the front shock absorbers & asked me “good enough?” I said “no. I was told the best place is around the triple tree” & had to show him where it was.

I know that maximum 4 straps is all you need (2 in the front), but he used 8
2 front corners (finally around the triple tree)
1 strapped around the front wheel hooked up to the winch
1 wide on from one side of the deck to the other securing down the SEAT.
2 from each side of the bolted in trailer hitch to the corners of the deck
2 from each side of the bike tightened the the chrome engine protectors

It took an hour just loading it onto the deck & securing it down.
Then he radioed a helper to undo all the straps & unload it. That took 1/2 hr.

Pretty scary & time consuming

Just amazing

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:09 am
by WingAdmin
Connecting the front wheel to the winch is a really bad idea. This puts major stress on the front forks in a manner they were not designed to handle. It binds up the front suspension and can cause wear and damage to the forks and/or bushings.

Strapping it down with ratchet straps is correct. If they must use the winch, connect it to the triple tree (which connects to the frame), not the wheel/suspension. Across the seat is also wrong, but very common - much better to pull the side covers off and attach to the frame directly.

The engine protectors also aren't great for strapping down - better again to go directly to the frame.

Hopefully your bike survived the experience OK.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:20 am
by hap2
What can I do to make sure no damage was done other than eyeball it?

I nay have to take note from lessons learned on the forum to show the to tow truck guy (hopefully a different guy) fro next time. (I almost knew right away this guy had no idea how to secure a wing. He had to just stop & think for a few minutes many times) NOT "cool".

If u had that experience would you tell the tow company? (I feel like it, but also think they're in bed with each other & I don't wanna b flagged)

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:24 am
by hap2
This guy also had the kickstand down. Good idea?

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:59 am
by AZgl1800
Kickstand down is a BAD idea!

Tying to the trailer hitch IMO is also a bad idea, it is not made to be jerked sideways, I would remove the rear plastic and inspect the trailer hitch mounting to be sure the bolts have not been sheared, and/or the frame of the mount bent.

I would call the tow company and tell them that guy does not know how to secure a Goldwing,
you just might help an future Goldwing rider that does not know what not to do.

I watched a tow truck driver put a bike on a tilting flat bed a couple of months ago, it was not his first rodeo.
He did it right. and then he asked the bike owner to inspect his work.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:07 am
by hap2
What if there's damage & the tow company refuses to accept that they did the damage?

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:17 am
by WingAdmin
hap2 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 10:24 am
This guy also had the kickstand down. Good idea?
Absolutely not! You want the bike's suspension to absorb bumps and impacts. Instead, the kickstand transmits them directly into the frame. You should inspect the kickstand and frame around the kickstand for damage or cracking.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:34 am
by AZgl1800
The only thing needed to secure a bike sideways, is a single strap wrapped around the bottom of the rear wheel/tire and secured to both sides of the trailer/tow truck.

That allows the suspension to absorb all of the road shock, like it was designed to do in the first place.

Straps over the top of the bike in any fashion are bad news.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am
by minimac
It's probably a good idea for everyone else to search the site and find how and where to strap down your ride if the need should ever arise. I was fortunate the one time I needed to be flatbedded (due to a cracked valve stem) off of the interstate, that the driver was a motorcyclist also and knew what to do.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:40 am
by DarthJ
minimac wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am
It's probably a good idea for everyone else to search the site and find how and where to strap down your ride if the need should ever arise. I was fortunate the one time I needed to be flatbedded (due to a cracked valve stem) off of the interstate, that the driver was a motorcyclist also and knew what to do.
Exactly, the ONE time I needed my Wing towed, I had already read how to do it, and showed the driver how. We also rolled the bike onto the platform (scary BTW, lol) but I like the idea of the winch around the triple tree. He had the sidestand up, and did 4 straps on the right areas.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:22 am
by WingAdmin
minimac wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am
It's probably a good idea for everyone else to search the site and find how and where to strap down your ride if the need should ever arise. I was fortunate the one time I needed to be flatbedded (due to a cracked valve stem) off of the interstate, that the driver was a motorcyclist also and knew what to do.
It's right here in the How To section: How to tie down Goldwings for transport

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:46 am
by AZgl1800
WingAdmin wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:22 am
minimac wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am
It's probably a good idea for everyone else to search the site and find how and where to strap down your ride if the need should ever arise. I was fortunate the one time I needed to be flatbedded (due to a cracked valve stem) off of the interstate, that the driver was a motorcyclist also and knew what to do.
It's right here in the How To section: How to tie down Goldwings for transport
I totally disagree with GWRRA suggesting to use the handgrip for a tie down point.
Pure stupidity IMO, and is not letting the rear suspension do what it is designed to do.
The handgrip will get destroyed if that is over tightened.

A single strap around the rear wheel tied to both sides of the trailer/truck is ALL that is needed for the back of the bike. I have done it this way for decades, and never, ever, had a bike come loose or threaten to become unmanageable.

IF possible, I will tie the front wheel to the wheel chock, all of my trailers are open frames, so that is super easy to do.
That gives added protection to it ever coming loose and backing up.
Proper tie town from the Triple Tree is all we need to do, with straps that are NOT overloaded.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:36 pm
by C-dub
hap2 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 10:20 am
What can I do to make sure no damage was done other than eyeball it?

I nay have to take note from lessons learned on the forum to show the to tow truck guy (hopefully a different guy) fro next time. (I almost knew right away this guy had no idea how to secure a wing. He had to just stop & think for a few minutes many times) NOT "cool".

If u had that experience would you tell the tow company? (I feel like it, but also think they're in bed with each other & I don't wanna b flagged)
I'm sure this tow truck driver and most other primarily pick up wrecks rather than just disabled vehicles let alone motorcycles. They probably figure that whatever damage they cause will be attributed to the accident and not their "towing."

Hopefully, there won't be a next time.

Re: Scary towing experience

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:11 pm
by hap2
right..I hope not either. I DO have to uhaul motorcycle trailer the bike about 100 miles soon, so need to learn where exactly to out the straps. 2 straps around the triple tree for each of the front corners. I get that, but where on the sides (if I take the covers off) & where at the rear?

Thanks again