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challman
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new old gl1100

Postby challman » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:57 pm



I am an old Harley guy. I just purchased a 1983 gl1100L. I love the way it rides. I rode it home from the bike shop last Saterday. It was 38 degrees out. I have never had a fairing, so I was very impressed by how warm I was able to keep. I noticed a little wobble in the front end at around 30 mph a couple of times while I was messing with the radio. I have been on numerous Japanese bikes that do this so I wasn't to scared, but you can imagine that I was shocked that a Goldwing does this.
Reading on the board I see many of them do this.
This bike has been Very well taken care of. Being a Harley guy It didn't concern me how old this bike was, A Harley, of course would have probably been completely gone over at least by now, and I doubt that the GL ever has.

Everything seems to be great..

I have ordered a set of timing belts and intend to replace them and the radiator hoses as soon as it warms up out (above 45 will be fine)

Here is my question. I purchased a bike of this age and mileage (62,00) because of the Gold wings reputation for never breaking down. As I browse the the forums, I realize that this thing might not really be as bullet proof and rock solid as I thought.

Am I likely to have issues with this bike? I mean I thought I was buying a bike I could jump on and head west till I see the ocean and back. (from Indiana)

Do I most likely have such a bike? Or should I think about fixing it a up little, selling it, and buying something a little newer.
I usually put 12 to 20 thousand on a bike in a year.

opinions?

Here are some pics



Here are pics of the 1st Japanese bike I ever owned. Got it real cheap and wanted to play with my new welder. It's cool... Too bad it isn't worth anything




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Re: new old gl1100

Postby HALBUDD » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:15 pm

Welcome challman as you have read this bikes due have their own little problems but the are almost indestructible,Ive never heard of a HD that would go 300k. You have a nice looking bike all you need to do is give it some TLC and she will last you for a life time. If you dont know what should be done first just ask and someone will answer. ie belts,fluids,and so on.have fun and hi from New Albany In. good riding Hal
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Re: new old gl1100

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:49 pm

Don't get nervous.Remember,we are. bringing back to life near 20 to 35 year old vehicles.Can you imagine how many there are on the road around the world?By now,the prone to fail areas have been identified,and resolved.We post these problems and solutions to help ourselves keep the bike in it's most reliable shape.Personaly I would never buy any used vehi le (car,4 wheeler,bike)and not give it a full going over.Lipstick on a pig.Ya gotta get right to the bacon.

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:03 am

Welcome aboard, you have a really clean wing there, very nice, there's something about the age of the bike that I enjoy, I fell in love with my 81, can't hardly stay off it, the dudes here have really got me thru some tough times with it, most of the stuff I just read and with what I already know everything seems to come into focus much better..I like Harley's, I think they are cool bikes..I like all bikes..Welcome..

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challman
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Re: new old gl1100

Postby challman » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:10 am

Thanks guys. I swore off Harleys because I came to realize that they are a Machine Designed to Tear itself appart. This is the reason quit. I told myself that this time around I was going to buy a full bagger. I said I wanted everything on it including the kitchen sink. Well I have such a model. I plan on changing belts and hoses right away. I have been going through the parts and service manuals. Thanks to this forum. The thing that bothers me is that there are these chains which are internal and require such a high degree of disassembly to replace. The drive chain and the starter chain. It seems unlikely to me that the starter chain wouldn't need replaced soon. I guess that since it is oil bathed and not under much tension while running it might last a long time.

The other thing that bothers me is the clutch replacement requires engine removal.

Harleys are easy to work on. I haven't worked on the wing yet, but it looks like nearly anything that needs done requires a lot of disassembly to get to it. Anyway. I am on it just as soon as the weather gets better.

I was amased about how smoothly this thing rides, and how light it feels once you get it moving. I will definately be tearing the floor boards off and putting pegs on. The floor boards are too wide, and with the engine guards in front of them, they really don't give me much room to move my feet anyway.. Hope I like the pegs.




Thanks all

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby thrasherg » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:05 pm

I would suggest giving the wiring a good look over, after 20+ years corrosion will have started in some places, if you have the time, open each connector, clean them and put a small amount of dielectric grease and close it. Do check the 3 pin plug from the alternator, they are very prone to corroding (due to the large currents) other than that change fluids and check hoses and you should be good to go..

Gary

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:51 pm

I disassembled the engine on a 76 gl1000 to re-ring it and lap the valves.And that's about all i had to do.156000 miles.Everything else was in factory specs.The insides of the wing engine is a brick.Keep it clean inside.Service it like a Subaru engine,those things run forever too.

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:53 pm

I'll look to see if my extra pegs are ok.You'll need the shifting lever too.

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:52 pm

When I got my 1100, I spent the first few years doing maintenance and fixing up all the little things than can go wrong on these bikes. Since then, I've rarely had any problems, and I have no qualm with taking it on long distance trips. They really are bulletproof when properly maintained!

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby MSGT-R » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:45 am

Wow, that's a clean bike! You got a gem. Welcome to the clan.

Wobble: Check the fork oil level, tire pressure, and for any butt-sag in the rear (it should ride level). The addition of a Superbrace is always good.
Don't spook the road sheep.

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:22 pm

I want his bike...I wonder if he will give it to me, I mean you know as a gift or something nice like that.. :lol:

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby britman » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:50 pm

Like all old things its just preventive maintenance . On my 83 which i rebuilt 5 years ago i just rebuilt the forks the 30 year old seals had gone bad as long as you keep a eye on it . Mine will wobble at the front if you ride it with one hand and the superbrace it dont need one it has a factory brace . But now that you have one yourl want to get another one . Igot one for 200 bucks without all the plastics and the speed difference is unreal

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby Ed Z » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:28 am

If you take the time to go through and clean/grease each and every wiring connector, change the timing belts, run a couple tanks with Sea Foam in them, then you'll have a bike that will take you anywhere you want to go... Pay special attention to the regulator wiring plug and the stator (3 yellow wires) plug...
To rid the front end wobble at 30 mph, you may need to replace the steering stem bearings... First I'd try just adjusting the ones in there correctly and then replace if it doesn't completely cure the issue... Do consider checking the wheel bearings and grease the final drive splines too... Change out all the fluids (oils, brake fluids, and antifreeze)... You'll be good to go for another 100k miles if you keep up and the maintenance stuff...

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challman
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Re: new old gl1100

Postby challman » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:11 am

You guys are great! Thanks for all the advice. I really can't wait till spring.

Did anyone notice in my pics the Stereo enclosure and speakers? Can someone fill me in on what this is? I haven't found anything like it on the internet, but I am hoping to find something like but updated so I don't have to either pick a 2 shaft stereo, or cut this one up.

Also.. Has anyone here but speakers in th bottom pannels of the main section of the fairing? I am thinking that I can fit 2 3 /2 inch speakers in them. Any ideas?

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Re: new old gl1100

Postby MSGT-R » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:57 am

You have a Vetter Cycle Sound assembly in there. The Honda parts are drilled directly into the fairing assembly, and the radio (Clarion Type-I or II) is several pieces installed in the lower cavity. Very heavy and bulky. They were okay for their time, but not the greatest anymore. Sierra Electronics still fixes them..
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Re: new old gl1100

Postby Ed Z » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:21 am

Before you invest alot of money into the 1100, do test ride a 1500... With some searching and time you can get one in the $5,000 range that is not too high on mileage and in reasonably good shape... If you plan on doing long trips, you will be hard pressed to find anything better... Do consider the SE model (has all the goodies plus reverse)...

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/mcd/2235510550.html
(Aspencade)
not SE but does have revese




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