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landing gear

Postby actionpack » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:23 pm







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Re: landing gear

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:00 pm

Unfortunately the guy who made these had his place wiped out when Katrina hit, and he never went back into production.

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Re: landing gear

Postby actionpack » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:58 pm

WingAdmin wrote:Unfortunately the guy who made these had his place wiped out when Katrina hit, and he never went back into production.

well that sucks , he had a good idea for sure
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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:01 pm

Can you remind me when Katrina went through please.Pete was sending emails to people here in Australia on 12.12.2010
about sales.He may have moved his camp?

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Re: landing gear

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:55 am

docgood wrote:Can you remind me when Katrina went through please.Pete was sending emails to people here in Australia on 12.12.2010
about sales.He may have moved his camp?


It was in August of 2005. I've never heard that he was active again, only that he had given it up. Do you have any more information beyond that?

I know there are other similar systems being sold.

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Re: landing gear

Postby thrasherg » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:01 am

But what happens if the road surface is not horizontal? I would think this would cause the bike to lean with the camber on the road, making it feel very unsafe? The video shows a lovely flat parking lot, but here in Texas, we have many roads with pot holes and steep cambers (To get rain water off quick) and that would cause the bike to lean unnaturally when stopping? Seems like a nice idea but I wouldn't want that particular version on my wing, would want a version that keeps the wing vertical..

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Re: landing gear

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:09 am

I was wondering the same thing. The way *I* would design it would be that each side would have its own slave hydraulic cylinder. Valves going to each slave cylinder would open, and the master would start to pump hydraulic fluid into the system. The wheels would come down, and if one contacted the ground before the other (because the bike was on an incline), it would just stop, and the other wheel would move down farther to compensate (taking the first wheel's fluid). When the down cycle had completed, the valves would close, locking the wheels in their current position.

The problem would be when you started to ride off, and before the wheels came up - if the road leveled out, the wheels would forcefully tip the bike over. Perhaps the valves should open (restricted, to dampen movement) when the bike starts to move?

I don't know...it sounds like an awful lot of things waiting to go wrong, all of which would cause you to tip over. I think I'll just use my feet.

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Re: landing gear

Postby thrasherg » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:14 am

That is my concern, plus as you say, if the wheel can come down, it would go straight into a pot hole (With my luck) and then as I moved forward it would come up out of the pothole and pitch the bike over, making me swerve into something.. I guess I will stick to using my legs to keep the bike upright!! :)

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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:33 pm

My gear still not installed. The intention in to use the gear-up gear-down manually.That is, not to install the automatic speed measure to the front wheel. I feel that I only need it when parking or stopping, such as at home, fuel station, shopping centres, traffic light systems, etc. I have mentioned this elsewhere. I bought mine from a bloke (guy) in Victoria, Australia who had installed it OK but then had a stroke and went to trike conversion,at I might say huge cost for here. I am waiting for my mate (buddy) down near Brisbane to get over his tumble from the ride-on mower and it should probably be a goer in our spring.
I share all your concerns about the uneven roads, cambers and pot holes - we have a lot of them just now after the recent floods but improving - with the manual operation at, or near stationery this should be under control. Any comments here please.
WingAdmin, that other system you have highlighted is the exact system I have waiting installation. I paid AUD$2,500 landed at my post office from the seller. Seemed fair enough. The imported got it direct from
Pete G. and paid freight from the states, import duty, plus the local GSTax of 10% on the total amount.
The Government here,like everywhere, dont miss you.

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Re: landing gear

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:06 pm

Let us know how it works once you've got it installed, I'm curious to hear how it works for you.

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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:16 pm

Wilco.
Must use more that 5 characters, this should do it. Time for a bike hike.

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Re: landing gear

Postby rl_alford » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:45 pm

I just got the legup landingear for my 2009 goldwing from landingear.com
Works good.

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Re: landing gear

Postby muffh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:35 pm

might be interesting to use

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Re: landing gear

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:40 am

I know there has been quite a bit of discussion here about them - but nobody with any direct experience. Perhaps you could post some pictures and tell us what you think about them.

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Re: landing gear

Postby twostrokes48 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:30 pm

Bringing back another old thread. The 98 wing I got last month has the landing gear set up on it. Much of the concerns mentioned are a fact. Not good on unlevel surfaces. Scared hell out of me, thought I was going over. Actually it was safe but my mind wouldn't accept the angle. Other things I noticed. It is not good off pavement at all. My driveway is dirt for about 200 feet. Has some minor ruts not noticeable that much in a car. But, if I get wrong with them the landing gear wheels keeps the rear tire from getting traction and I just sit there and spin the tire. Have to raise the wheels to get it rolling again. They show a smooth lowering of the wheels at speeds of say 10mph. I noticed that if you are not perfectly level to the road, one wheel will hit first and throw you into turning the bike and hard to get back under control. Easy to hit a curb, or worse turn into oncoming traffic. Also when you raise them or they automaticlly raise at 15mph, you better have the bike perfectly straight or you will feel a real quick dip one direction or the other depending on which way you are leaning the bikes weight when the wheels come up. You don't realize it because the moment before they come up,you are stable even if your weight is wrong the way you are sitting.

Now it is good for slow parking lot movement or gas stations, or parking, especially if your are two up. That being said. I still now make sure I have set my feet on pavement, balance bike, then raise or lower the wheels. That is the only time I use them. Off road like in rallys in a field, only for parking.

So now you have it from someone who has one.

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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:32 pm

Thanks for the information first hand twostroke. It is pretty well what I thought, use only when stopped, and raise prior to take off. I still have not installed mine due to too many reasons to list. Hopefully later this month or early October. I have to travel about 1100 kms to get it done.Do you think that your system is installed too low allowing the wheels to contact at a lower lever. Do you think it is necessary to have both wheels at the same height or could they be a bit higher and used as a form of side stand? I never had the intention of installing the automatic raise/lower mechanism, mine will be strickly manual and hopefully I get used to the idea of using the landing gear when parked or stopped or slowly approaching same on level parking lots etc. I think your choice of using them only when parked or at very slow motion is excellent advice. Thanks again for a very informative notice.

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Re: landing gear

Postby twostrokes48 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:46 am

I'm not sure the height of how they are installed could be changed, might look at that.. I may end up disconnecting the auto feature also.. The only thing would be if for some reason you were distracted when you were taking off, and then punched it with the wheels down.. You can hit 40mph real quick..don't know , by the time you realize it and hit the button, might be too late to maintain control...

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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:36 pm

Matter of try and see I guess. I like the look of them on your machine. Let me know which way you go with any alterations although the previous owner probably went through all of this too. Thanks again.

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Re: landing gear

Postby docgood » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:38 pm

I think the install instructions are on the net and there may be something about adjustments in them. I will look later and see what I have and let you know.
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Re: landing gear

Postby faithtalker1 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:18 am

Sounded and looked like a good idea initially, but after reading further I can see they may be more problem then they are worth especially for the cost, The other thing is when they say it will not lower at certain speeds and so forth, i don't know about you guys, but I have had many an electronic failure of things that were or were not supposed to do something or another.,

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Re: landing gear

Postby twostrokes48 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:16 am

faithtalker1 wrote:Sounded and looked like a good idea initially, but after reading further I can see they may be more problem then they are worth especially for the cost, The other thing is when they say it will not lower at certain speeds and so forth, i don't know about you guys, but I have had many an electronic failure of things that were or were not supposed to do something or another.,

I agree,
and I have already had a couple instances where when first getting on the bike, getting it started, the wheels just came up. I don't know yet if I accidently hit the button or not. It cought me by surprise enough that all I was thinking is get the bike balanced. So, no harm, but I keep thinking, what if it would have done that when the wife was climbing on the back and I was just sitting there doing nothing. So I still "brace with feet on ground" everytime she is getting on or off. Seems when I get lax about things, that's when s#%t happens.

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Re: landing gear

Postby faithtalker1 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:54 pm

Yeah that or I couldn't even imagine what would happen if the wheels come down while going around a turn or something like that. I would think all it would take is one bad mishap and it would be all over but the crying. Sometimes things can't be any easier than they are and still be safe.

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Re: landing gear

Postby Head » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:17 pm

That's actually quite old, about 15 years ago people In Europe had a couple of much better designs' with bigger, inflated tires.
One was a two seater like a motorcycle,and fully enclosed powered with a Bmw motor.It would go up to 130 mph. I loved it!
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Re: landing gear

Postby twostrokes48 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:29 pm

Hadn't heard of anything like that...
I just had my first problem (breakdown) of the landing gear. I blew a hydraulic line. Had to disassemble half the bike to get to the points to disconnect the line at both ends...meaning I have a big labor charge coming when I pay the bill. Nearly had a heart attack when I got the new line which had to be custom made..$95.00...Now I wait until the bike is back together to get the labor bill..My wallet is crying....Looked like it was rubbing on something and just finely rubbed a weak spot that blew the next time I put the wheels down...
Won't be able to afford many of these problems. On a good note, should have the bike back tomorrow afternoon and we still have great riding weather.

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Re: landing gear

Postby twostrokes48 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:54 pm

Well, the wing is back home in the garage...landing gear working as it should again. My mechanic can make another car payment on me but all is well except the weather. Having one of our little flirts with winter...cold (for here), 45 with north wind 20mph and rain/drizzle...for the next couple days. So, no riding until maybe the end of the week.




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