How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer


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How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby sportsfreaked » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:05 am



The problem arose where my fuel light would not come on when it was suppose to (low on fuel) and on my travel navigator/computer I had the flashing dashes under QTY and RANGE. The fix is a $0.66 THC Thermistor part on the fuel sending unit. This is how to fix that issue.

I ordered my via Newark.com. The part number for the THC Thermistor from Newark is 20F735. The actual manufacture of the Thermistor is AMPHENOL ADVANCED SENSORS and their manufacturing part # RL2004-582-97-D. I ordered 4 of the thermistors from Newark and with USPS shipping it was $8.00. You will need a soldering iron and a solder removal tool as well.

First thing is to remove the seat and then remove the fuel sending unit from the tank. When you remove the sending unit you will see a small canister towards the bottom that has a yellow wire connected to it.
It's best to leave the canister connected to the rod. If you look at the bottom of the canister you will see a blob (technical term) of solder. This is where one lead is soldered to the canister. Remove the solder from the bottom of the canister.

You then want to remove the black "top" from the canister. This will take patience and a very small screwdriver or small pry tool. You will see some "tabs" I believe two of them. Try to bend those back and away. Then remove the black piece from the top.
You can see the lead where it is soldered to the black top. You can cut that lead and remove the solder from the black top. You can now cut the yellow wire on top of the black top. Take a small drill bit and drill out the old thermistor. It will look like this when you are done


Inside the canister is the other lead (wire) that you unsoldered in the beginning. You will need a pair of tweezers to remove it if it hasn't already fallen out. You will see a small home in the bottom of the canister in the center and this is where one lead will go thru and soldered to the canister. This is the Thermistor You will need to carefully bend the leads so it looks like this
take one lead and feed it thru the hole in the bottom of the canister.
You will need to cut the lead towards the bottom of the canister. This is how mine looked after cutting it for reference
I used a piece of tape to hold the long lead to the metal post to hold it in place while I soldered the bottom.

Now strip a very small amount of insulation from the yellow wire. Apply some solder to the bare wire that you just stripped and feed the yellow wire thru the top of the black piece. Now feed the lead from the thermistor thru the bottom of the black piece. Move the black piece down towards the canister. Now solder the wire to the lead
Now push the black top into the canister and bend the tabs back over. You can then snip the rest of the lead that is left over. I then dropped some solder into the top of the black top where the yellow wire feeds into.

Just put the sending the unit back in the tank and now your fuel light will come on when low on fuel and your travel computer QTY and Range will now work as well. Hope this helps someone. Ed


Thanks to all who answer and help. It is greatly appreciated!
Ed

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:17 am

You've got my attention for another small project. My low fuel light does not come on, and I have the flashing dashes under QTY and Range. I will be looking into ordering the thermistor and try to install. Thanks for doing this.

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:12 am

One thing that wasn't corrected in my post is that its easier to solder the thermistor to the cap first then lower it into the canister thru the hole cut and then solder to the bottom of the can. The thermistor should be in the middle of the canister roughly.
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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:14 am

Thanks for the update. Last fall I decided to run the fuel down to see if the low fuel light would come on. The bike was starting to miss and engine was running hotter than normal, and I was still showing 1 bar on the dash fuel gauge. Decided to fill it up and with the tank being a 21.6 litre tank, I put 21.4 litres into it. I now start looking for a fuel stop when I get to 2 bars, and definitely fuel when I hit one bar. When I fill the tank after showing 2 bars on the dash fuel gauge, I only put in approximately 16 litres so I know I still have a good amount of fuel left.

If I had not stumbled onto your thread, I would just live with it. I now have a way ahead to fix a small issue that is a nice to have.

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:44 am

Checked the QTY and RANGE setting on my travel computer this morning and both are flashing as you mentioned. Thermistors came in yesterday. Now to schedule a time for a fix.

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby sportsfreaked » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Ernest let me know how it comes out if you would. Doing this should fix your fuel light and your flashing dashes on the travel computer.

I have mine all back together after putting on new progressive air shocks and front fork springs as well as greasing the steering bearing and well now the clutch is dead :( I have ordered a rebuild kit for the m/c and hopefully that will fix the problem. I have no hydraulic pressure at all so I'm pretty sure the m/c is shot.

Can't wait to hear back from you on the thermistor repair. I know you will do a fine job on it and probably find a way to make it a tad better ;)
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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:37 pm

Will post my fix with pictures as well.

As for the clutch MC, rebuilt mine, but it is still not where I want it to be so I will be bleeding the clutch hydraulic again. Lots of places for air to get trapped. I also have an 3 litre ultrasonic cleaner coming for my birthday, my sister is heading up the buy. From looking on other threads and forums, this cleaner should be a valuable asset for rebuilding all sorts of things such as a master cylinder.
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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:54 pm

Did the fix and did a thread with pictures. So far the travel computer QTY and RANGE functions are working, no more flashing dashes. Letting the fuel drop, expect the low warning light to come on with about 4 litres remaining in the tank, presently at 5.5 litres.

Took about two hours from start to finish. Thanks, your thread was extremely helpful.

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:07 pm

Ernest good news I'm glad it is up and working. It's just nice to have that info handy on the travel computer.
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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby sportsfreaked » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:51 pm

Ernest I am curious to your fuel light come one?
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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:09 pm

Chickened out with the first fill up. QTY read 4.5, probably closer to 4 litres remaining. Filled up and put in 18.4 litres. I now have a bench mark and willing to take it down to 2 or 2.5 litres. Hoping this does the trick. Other than chickening out on the light, everything else is working. Down to 6 litres at the moment.

Going to get at the fuel injectors. Have second '85 LTD at my brothers. He is shipping the injectors from the one at his place. I'll clean them then install. Clean the ones I take out and put back in the other '85. Win-win all round.

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Re: How to repair Fuel light and Travel Navigator/computer

Postby Rednaxs60 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:38 pm

Went out today and let the fuel drop in the tank. The low fuel level light came on when the QTY indicator said I had approximately 4.0 litres left in the tank. Rode about 2 more Kms and filled up. Put 19.5 litres in the tank. Fuel tank capacity is 22 litres, so I have 2.5 litres remaining when the light comes on. Now I know what to expect.

All indicators for the fuel system are now working.

Good little project.


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