Removing the rear wheel without disassembling the bike


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Removing the rear wheel without disassembling the bike

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:42 pm



I had these instructions saved as a "to store for future use" document - not quite sure where it came from, the date on the file is almost three years old, and I'll put the disclaimer on it that I did not write it. Your mileage may vary:

Here's an alternative way to get the back wheel off of a 1500, You don't have to remove trunks or lights. No electrical connectors to take loose. You can even leave your hitch on!

  1. Put the bike on the center stand. You don't need any jacks or blocks. Empty the trunks if you've got much weight in them.
  2. Remove the seat (two allen-head bolts on each side in the handles).
  3. Remove the shields at the fronts of the mufflers (two bolts on each side).
  4. Loosen (do not remove) the exhaust pipe/muffler clamps (total of four bolts, two at the front of each muffler).
  5. Remove the muffler bolts under the trunks (one each side), and rotate the mufflers down.
  6. Support the rear assembly with a jack or block (taking precautions to protect the rear body work). Open the side trunks. On the inside wall of each trunk, near the front, is a rubber plug (on the SE/Aspencade, the air hose passes through this plug in the right trunk). Remove the plugs and REMOVE the bolt behind each plug (one each side).
  7. Where the seat was, near the back, and just behind the shock mounts, are two bolts, one on each side of the frame, holding the rear frame to the main frame. Loosen (do not remove) these two bolts.
  8. Step around to the back of the bike, take hold of the trunks underneath, and lift. The whole rear end (trunks, lights, hitch and all) will lift up and pivot on the two upper frame bolts, exposing the rear wheel and axle! Raise it up until the antennas touch the handlebars, and secure it in place. I looped a rope around the handlebars and tied it to the trunk rack to hold it up.
  9. Loosen the bottom left shock bolt. Pull the axle and the brake caliper (lay the caliper on the crash bar). Slide the wheel left and it's out! The reason for the change in step 6 above is that when you lower the rear end back into position for reassembly, the two lower bolts will prevent you from putting it back down if they are not completely removed.
  10. Reassembly is in reverse order of assembly. YOU MAY NEED A SECOND PERSON to help you lower the trunk pack back into position. This is because it may be necessary to pull out on the fronts of the side trunks while lowering them, so they will pass over the top mounts of the rear crash bars.
  11. With support under the back end of the trunk pack, use a small mirror to look through the access holes in the side trunks. Line up the bolt holes in the rear crash bars with the holes in the frame. Start the bolts, then lower the trunk pack into position and tighten the bolts. The whole rear assembly is held on by the two top bolts, the bolts at the tops of the rear crash bars (the ones behind the rubber plugs) and the muffler bolts.

The frame pieces behind the trunks do not have holes for the bolts, just slots. When you reassemble the trunk pack to the frame, you can support the back of the trunk pack so the slots are just above the bolts. Start the bolts through the crash bars into the frame, then when you lower the pack into position, the slots will engage the bolts. Then you can tighten them down.
If you're on the side of the road, you can lower the rear assembly back down, put the seat back on, and lock your parts in the trunk while you get your tire repaired. This gives you access to the swing arm and shocks, too. You can service the whole rear end, replace shocks, etc., without disassembling the trunks.

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The rear subframe on the GL1500 (the frame that holds the trunks) is held by six bolts. Two at the top of the frame, under the seat near the rear; two behind the mufflers on the sides; and two behind the fronts of the side trunks. Loosen the top two, and remove the bottom four, and the whole subframe/trunk assembly will swing up away from the rear wheel.
Here's the EASY way to get the rear wheel off of a 1500. With practice, it takes about 15 minutes. And you can do it on the side of the road if you need to. You don't have to remove trunks or lights.

This procedure will vary depending on the accessories you have installed, like trunk bars, hitches, horns, etc. Normally, there should be no electrical connectors to take loose. In many cases, you can even leave your hitch on.

Recommended tools:

3/8" rachet
6" extension (3/8" drive)
3" extension (3/8" drive)
1/4" nut driver handle
8 mm socket (1/4" drive)
10 mm socket (3/8" drive)
12 mm socket (3/8" drive)
14 mm socket (3/8" drive)
Light
Small mechanic's mirror
Hydraulic jack or jack stand
Axle wrench from Honda tool kit
Allen wrench from Honda tool kit

  1. Put the bike on the center stand. You don't need any jacks or blocks under the bike. Empty all three trunks.
  2. Remove the seat. Remove the four Allen-head bolts, two on each side in the ends of the lift handles. Pull the seat cover pouch (SE) or the rear seat pad (Aspencade/Interstate) forward, out from under the passenger backrest. Lift the rear of the seat, and slide it back to disengage it from the front seat mount.
  3. Using a 14 mm socket, loosen (do not remove) the two rear-most bolts on either side of the upper frame. These two bolts secure the top of the rear subframe. They must be loosened to allow the subframe to pivot up.
  4. Remove both the left and right upper side covers.
  5. Using an 8 mm socket on a nut driver handle, remove the metal shields that cover the fronts of the mufflers. They are each held on with two bolts. After the bolts are removed, pull down on the covers to disengage them from the body. Keep track of the rubber pieces that are attached.
  6. Using a 10 mm socket on a 6" extension, loosen (do not remove) the exhaust pipe-to-muffler clamps. There are a total of four bolts, two at the front of each muffler.
  7. Using a 12 mm socket on a 6" extension, remove the muffler bolts that secure the mufflers to the subframe, one bolt on each side.
  8. Rotate the mufflers down. Twist the left-side muffler clockwise, the right-side muffler counter-clockwise. The mufflers will rotate on the exhaust pipes where you loosened the clamps in step 5. Rotate them only far enough to allow the axle to clear in step 16.
  9. Open the side trunks. On the inside wall of each trunk, near the front, is a rubber plug (on the SE/Aspencade, the air hose passes through this plug in the right trunk). Remove the plugs.
  10. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, loosen the bolt behind each plug, one on each side. These bolts are the top mounting bolts for the rear crash bars, and they secure the bottom of the rear subframe.
  11. Place a jack or jack stand under the rear trunk assembly (taking precautions to protect the rear bodywork). Lift the rear of the trunk pack about 1 inch from its installed position.
  12. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, remove the bolts you loosened in step 10.
  13. Step around to the back of the bike, take hold of the trunks underneath, and lift. The whole rear end (trunks, lights, hitch and all) will lift up and pivot on the two upper subframe bolts, exposing the rear wheel and axle.
  14. Raise the trunk pack up until the antennas touch the handlebars, and secure it in place. I simply loop a rope around the handlebars and tie it to my trunk rack to hold it up.
  15. Using a 14 mm socket on a 6" extension, loosen the bottom left shock bolt until the bottom end of the brake caliper is free.
  16. Remove the rear axle. Using the axle wrench from the Honda tool kit, remove the axle nut on the right side. Using a 10 mm socket, loosen the axle clamp bolt on the left side. Pull the axle out the left side.
  17. Remove the brake caliper. Lay the caliper on the crash bar, wiring it in place if necessary to prevent it from falling and causing damage to the brake line.
  18. Remove the spacer from the left-side center of the wheel hub.
  19. Slide the wheel to the left, off of its splines. Drop the wheel to the floor and roll it out the back.
  20. Reassembly is in reverse order of assembly, except as noted in steps 21-25 below.
    Special instructions for starting the lower subframe bolts in the side trunks:
  21. When you lower the trunk pack back into place, you may need an assistant to help you lower the trunk pack back into position. This is because it is necessary to pull out on the fronts of the side trunks while lowering them, so they will pass over the top mounts of the rear crash bars and the sides of the frame.
  22. After lowering the trunk pack into position, support the back end of the trunk pack with a jack or jack stand. Take precautions to protect the bodywork from scratching. The trunk pack should be lifted just an inch or so above its final installed position.
  23. Place a light in front of the side trunk, where it will shine between the frame and the trunk. Use a small mechanic's mirror to look through the access holes in the side trunks. Line up the bolt holes in the rear crash bars with the holes in the frame. The forked ends of the trunk pack's subframe should just clear the bolt holes. Adjust the jack under the trunk pack as necessary to give clear access to the bolt holes in the frame.
  24. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension (NOT your fingers!), start the bolts in the frame.
  25. Lower the trunk pack into position, allowing the forked ends of the subframe to settle onto the still-loose bolts.
  26. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, tighten the bolts you started in step 24.
  27. Continue the reassembly in the reverse order of disassembly.

If you're on the side of the road with a flat rear tire, you can lower the rear assembly back down, put the seat back on, and lock your parts in the trunk while you get your tire repaired.

This procedure gives you access to the swing arm and shocks, too. You can service the whole rear end, replace shocks, grease splines, etc., without disassembling the trunks.



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Re: Removing the rear wheel without disassembling the bike

Postby Grumpy1 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:20 am

Thank you this work well :) but i found it easer to drops the bolts from the light bar and tow hitch and take rear crash bar's off as this stop the under sides of the rear trunk pack from hitting and jamming , this added about 10 minites to the job . Certainly makes it easer to get to rear brakes and tyre ;)
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Re: Removing the rear wheel without disassembling the bike

Postby zlMark » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:03 pm

Good tips here. I didn't like the way the right shock airhose was being stretched so I removed it from the shock after letting the air out

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Postby rampal55 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:13 am

Successfully replace rear wheel while using this tutorial. Thanks for posting such helpful information. I am not a trained mechanic but, kinda handy with tools. Worked like a charm....Thanks again... paul

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Postby mrjay62 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:06 pm

Hi
new guy here...The bike is new to me, 3 weeks .im checking everything since its been sitting for more than 2 years.And there no record of service. 
I followed your post on lifting the truck but it's not happening. 
Can I be missing something ? Feel like the bottom rear is bolted down, I lift hard enough to push off the center stand..I caught it...
94 gl1500 SE. Grrrrr its almost 11pm and I been messing with this for 2 hours...

help help please please....

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Postby rampal55 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:47 am

Did you remove the bolts from inside the side compartments? Did you loosen the bolts under the seat? Just a thought... Do you have a trailer hitch? If so check how it is bolted to the frame/bags....

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Postby mrjay62 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:12 pm

Hi Rampal,


Yes , yes and yes. I gojng to check the trailer hitch again but I dont see were that can be holding from lifting.......
every bolt is lose ,2 from the saddle bags removed 2 off the muffler, .


thanks
Jay
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Postby mrjay62 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:04 pm

Ok it was the 2 lower bolts for the crash bars.Had to remove those.. Now im trying to get the mufflers to move..... grrrrrr! It lifts half way, crash bars are hitting the mufflers.....
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Postby mrjay62 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:14 pm

Omg I got it!!
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Postby rampal55 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:59 pm

Way to go.. Don't forget to change the fluid in the rear drive before reassembling (made that mistake once). Those how to articles are great.. thanks to all for posting... paul

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Postby Bobsiler » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:54 pm

This is a great way to access the rear. I agree with removing the air line from the shock though, it stretches far to much and pulled the air controls out of their seat. Nothing broken , headed for the tire shop!
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Postby mrjay62 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:16 pm

Hi Bob

which tires did u end up getting,,,? I been reading up on car tire for the rear...
not at all sure which one to get....

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Postby Bobsiler » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:00 pm

I'm going with a Dunlop E3. That's what was on it and what I put on the front. I got about 6200 miles out of the rear. It still has a little life in it but was starting to sing a bit in the corners.
I'm toying with the Darkside myself but I think I'm going to buy a used wheel to put the car tire on in case it doesnt work for me. From what I've read the Austone taxi tire is what I'll try.

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Postby mrjay62 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:22 pm

HS!
Thats such a coincidence! ,
I have the same tire same milage and was just looking at the Austone taxi tire!!
Now thats something! Lol

what would the size if I went with the Austone?? Do u know?

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Postby mrjay62 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:25 pm

And if anyone wants to know about my picture , Thats what happens when you Dont wear the Right Gear!!

Full face protection for me next time!
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Postby mrjay62 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:01 pm

Thanks Bob

I read that before, What im not see is the tire size my E3 is 160/80-B16. What would the Austone tire size be??
thats what I cant find...
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Postby Bobsiler » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:17 pm

It in there just have to read closely. Copied from one of the replies.
Austone 175R16

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Postby mrjay62 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:26 pm

Thank you Bill
Seen that but to me it was missing a number...

thanks again

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Postby Bobsiler » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:15 am

Google Austone taxi tire and it will pull up a couple of places it can be bought. Found one place for 154$. I know people have used them, but they are radial tires. I'm still not sure

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Postby rampal55 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:43 am

I too was uncertain about using the austone tire. I bit the bullet about 3k ago.. I love the tire and the way it handles. This is my first goldwing and the difference in handling is really noticeable (that is a good thing). Handles much better in gravel and on the road. Just my opinion..

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Postby Bobsiler » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:56 am

Did you get someone to mount it or did you have to mount it yourself?

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Postby rampal55 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:23 am

I got my regular tire guy to mount the tire to the rim.. A lot of people say they won't mount a car tire on a motorcycle rim but due to insurance, bunch of crap. Tire guys have been mounting car tires on trailer rims and vice versa... In NC as long as it is a DOT approved tire it is ok....

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Postby chouston99 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:35 pm

How do you get the trunk pack (forks)to line up with the crash bar holes?
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Re: Removing the rear wheel without disassembling the bike

Postby hondageorge » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:34 am

Special instructions for starting the lower subframe bolts in the side trunks:

it's in there..............just gotta read the instructions... start at #21 if you'd like.

I just printed them so I have a copy right next to the Wing while I'm doing it. easy-peezy that way.

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