Turning on your GPS without stopping!


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Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by mightymousesr » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:48 am



After searching through various forums all I could find is: you need to insert a relay, use your reverse button to interrupt the speedo input to the GPS blah blah. Well a little comment caught my eye about on the 2010 and newer Goldwing not needing all that work. So I gave it a try,
I cut the speedometer input wire at the plug just where the wiring goes into the trunk a 6 wire connector with a (white wire/black stripe) on one corner I cut this wire then ran the two extended wires (speaker wire works great) to my pocket on the right side, installed a switch just above this door, I used a switch that has a cover you open to turn on. Went for a ride. at any speed with cruise on I uncover, then flip my switch (now the wires are disconnected) give it a second and push my buttons to turn on my GPS , BINGO! GPS is on now I lower the cover on the switch which recloses the wires allowing the GPS to read input again. I used this style of switch because the covers come in various colors (mine is Carbon Fiber), most of these switches are metal, location gives some weather protection, mostly I can't inadvertently bump the switch and turn off the system.
NO MORE STOPPING!



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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by MikeB » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:16 pm

That is excellent investigational work. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by jinx » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:57 am

The mod of using just a switch was mentioned in the original post and was posted back in 2009 on an other site and it will only work on the 2009 and up. Also in the original post it is stated that just cutting the speed sense and adding a switch will not work on 2006 - 2008 but if you can come up with a better way of doing the mod on 2006 -2008 please post . I would love to hear it.

Now what do you think of my automatic activation mod for the nav ? Please post any improvement on that one.
I will help you out with it . I have a version 4 that is much in-proved over the original one posted here but I will not
post any updates due to the people who either criticize or try to take credit for other peoples work.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by wingman895 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:55 pm

Can a picture of this connector be added to this post and a map of its location. Would love to try this but am nervous about cutting the wrong wire. Not afraid of the work, have rebuild a 1500 tranny in the past

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by lorenzob » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:55 pm

Hi Jinx,
do we have a photo of this setup & also of the switch locATION?
thanks ,
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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by lorenzob » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:27 pm

hi mightymousesr,
will this instruction work on a 2009 gl1800 with nav, cause you mentioned you applied this to a 2010 gl1800?
thanks
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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by barnawi » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:06 am

mightymousesr wrote:After searching through various forums all I could find is: you need to insert a relay, use your reverse button to interrupt the speedo input to the GPS blah blah. Well a little comment caught my eye about on the 2010 and newer Goldwing not needing all that work. So I gave it a try,
I cut the speedometer input wire at the plug just where the wiring goes into the trunk a 6 wire connector with a (white wire/black stripe) on one corner I cut this wire then ran the two extended wires (speaker wire works great) to my pocket on the right side, installed a switch just above this door, I used a switch that has a cover you open to turn on. Went for a ride. at any speed with cruise on I uncover, then flip my switch (now the wires are disconnected) give it a second and push my buttons to turn on my GPS , BINGO! GPS is on now I lower the cover on the switch which recloses the wires allowing the GPS to read input again. I used this style of switch because the covers come in various colors (mine is Carbon Fiber), most of these switches are metal, location gives some weather protection, mostly I can't inadvertently bump the switch and turn off the system.
NO MORE STOPPING!
That was a great idea thanks for sharing the info.
Ride safe

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by wgnut1 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:50 pm

A simple way is to switch your ignition to accessory position, push the gps button a few times and voila, gps works. Remember to switch ignition back to on position and it's smart if you engage clutch during process. You can either restart the bike with the start button or slowly release the clutch and the bike will bump start. Just be prepared if you do this in a lower gear because the bike may jump. I suggest getting bike up to a reasonable speed, engage clutch, switch to accessory, push gps button several times, turn key to on position, push start button and slowly release the clutch.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by lorenzob » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:12 pm

That's a better idea.
Thanks

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping on 2008 GL1800!

Post by tonyacf2002 » Mon May 01, 2017 1:00 pm

I installed the "over ride" switch for "Turning on the GPS without stopping" on my 2008 GL1800. It works only if the clutch lever is pulled in. It does not work while normal riding. After the GPS is working, I change the selector switch back to normal.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by wgnut1 » Tue May 02, 2017 7:02 pm

I prefer my way, it's quick, simple, safe and no modification to the bike, Oh yeah, zero cost.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by tonyacf2002 » Tue May 02, 2017 7:35 pm

Your choice works well also. I installed the switch myself with already owned switch and wires (no cost). All I do is "switch", Clutch, push GPS buttons, "switch" and keep riding. I don't need to push clutch, shut off the engine by placing the ignition key in "ACC", push GPS buttons, switch ignition key back to run, start engine or bump start the engine. Safer?

There are probably other ways, each to their own choices. They are all good.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by wgnut1 » Tue May 02, 2017 8:13 pm

I see your point but meant safer for those riders who are not mechanically inclined and can screw up their bike. lol :D

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by JerryOfAZ » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:45 am

This has been a problem since Honda introduced the NAV in GoldWings. I came up with a system that's I believe will work for me. I have a 16 GoldWing. I add rocker switch and a small circuit with an Arduino and relay board. It's still in the design stage but when the switch is turned on, the pulse line is interrupted and the MAP button is pressed then the ENT button is pressed. A minute later, the pulse is re-enabled. If the switch is turned on when I start the GoldWing, it waits 25 seconds until the start screen is gone, then does the same thing. If the switch is turned on then off (or a pushbutton switch), the pulse is re-enabled as soon as the MAP and ENT buttons have been pressed and the switch is released. I have all the parts and it seems to do what I need in test. The cost is about 20 bucks. I'm waiting for warmer weather where my wife doesn't like to ride as much (AZ summers get warm) to put it in. It will take cutting the black/white pulse line and splicing in a wire to that and splicing in three wires to the control module in addition to power and ground. Comments are welcome and if you'd like the schematic and program for the Arduino, I'd be happy to share.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by jinx » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:23 pm

JerryOfAZ

How are you doing on that ?
I would be interested in hearing how it is going.

My first nav mod was very similar but used 556 timer and relays. You will find that it will be very reliable unless you operate other things, volume control, suspension, trunk or saddle bags open, etc. will defeat it at least on the 06-08.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by Toymechanic » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:45 pm

So will this mod give me full interactivity. I not looking to just turn the GPS on. I want to find gas stations, look at my turn list etc.etc.! Like the GPS in my car!

I even called​ Garmin to ask for a reprogram to get rid of the lockout. They said "that is how Honda wanted it".
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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by Toymechanic » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:52 pm

It is ridiculous that Honda put a lock out only on the GPS while moving. I can do anything with the radio,XM,I-pod, Aux, CB, Intercom, suspension, headlight adjustment, but for reason Honda doesn't want you trying to find your way unless you stop! Next they'll have an automatic helmet installer!

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by JerryOfAZ » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:42 am

Jinx, Everything works on the test bench. I haven't installed because I'm thinking of triking my 2016 and don't want additional wires in the way. I have a small arduino that is hooked up to a four relay panel. One relay is normally closed for the pulse line. One for the map button and one for the Enter button (last unused). The timing is stable since it's program controlled. I have a program written in Basic 4 Arduino (free) that runs everything. It's turned on by a pushbutton (only external interface) which also interrupts the pulse line for a minute if it's already on. Total of parts is under 20 (ebay and amazon) and everything fits inside a small plastic enclosure. It has seven wires coming out. I'd be happy to share the details with anyone who writes to me (schematic, program).

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by Toymechanic » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:31 am

JerryofAZ,
Does this allow a person to use all of buttons on the right lower fairing? And is there a side effect to using it for a long time(for example like the time to read the turn list, etc )?

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by JerryOfAZ » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:49 am

The circuit I devised does not interfere with normal operation at all. Since it's micro-controller controlled, I set the delay time at initial for 25 seconds and the duration of the interruption for 1 minute. Both are adjustable in the program. If you hit the button within 25 seconds of starting the bike, it waits until 25 seconds has elapsed then interrupts the pulse, closes the contact for the map button for a half second, closes the contact for the enter button for a half second then re-connects the pulse line a minute later. Longer into the ride, it does the same thing without initial delay. As I said, I haven't installed yet as I'm triking but it does what I expect on the bench.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by Toymechanic » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:56 am

So it interrupts the signal for up to a minute. So if I'm not done doing what I'm trying to do then I would just hit the button again and then continue mapping. I just keep hitting the button after every minute. Does it affect your tracking or where you've been or anything like that does that all still keep working?

I would be interested in seeing the schematic! I am comfortable with electronics.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by JerryOfAZ » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:05 pm

I sent details. Regarding the button - It can be a button or a rocker switch. If the switch is on when you start the GW, it waits 20 seconds, hits the map, then enter buttons, waits a minute, then re-connects the pulse line and everything is back to normal. If you turn off the rocker before a minute, the pulse line immediately re-connects. If you have a pushbutton switch, the circuit does the same thing and re-connects the pulse line after a minute. If you are underway and you have a pushbutton, it activates the nav and re-connects after a minute. In theory, I wouldn't think the nav would be affected at all as it doesn't require the pulse to work. The pulse is only there to restrict button clicking while moving. This is speculation on my part. If anyone is sure about this, please let me know.

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Re: Turning on your GPS without stopping!

Post by keithgrg357 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:16 pm

My 2006 has nav but it is worthless when moving, you can't even zoom in or out! My solution is the one I also use in my car. I went to the app store and downloaded an app Called 'WAZE' on my Iphone. It is an interactive navigation app that lets you send and receive road conditions such as objects in the roadway ahead, position of police speed traps, accidents etc so you be heads up. WAZE is getting very popular and you can also plan a trip and contact friends! My wife and I use it on all trips.



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