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led lights

Postby dvjoiner » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 pm



Do led brake lights word with Signal Dynamics BackOFF Wig Wag Brake Light Flasher
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Re: led lights

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:09 pm

Yes. All of their brake light flashers work on LEDs or incandescent bulbs.

Keep in mind that "wig wag" brake lights are illegal in every state and Canadian province (they're restricted to emergency vehicles only). It doesn't stop people from using them, but if you get a cop in a bad mood behind you, you may expect to be pulled over for them.

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Re: led lights

Postby SilverDave » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:20 pm

However the other Back-Off " Flasher" model is legal in every province, and every state except California....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signal-Dynamics ... 1953wt_933

but sadly ....
Does not support LED lights


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Re: led lights

Postby dingdong » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:09 am

Can anyone provide a link to the regulation that governs brake light modulators? I can't seem to find anything except opinion stated as fact. I have a modulator but it doesn't "wig wag" it flashes all the lights at the same time.
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Re: led lights

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:30 pm

SilverDave wrote:However the other Back-Off " Flasher" model is legal in every province, and every state except California....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signal-Dynamics ... 1953wt_933

but sadly ....
Does not support LED lights


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All of their models do support LED lights. I put one on my 1100, which was strictly LED lights.

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Re: led lights

Postby eklimek » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:27 pm

(f) the brake light shall operate when the appropriate control is actuated;

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/e ... 0611_e.htm
O. Reg. 80/11, s. 14.

SCHEDULE 6
INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR MOTORCYCLES EXCEPT MOTORCYCLES WITH TWO FRONT WHEELS
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It does not operate in an intermittent manner to light the filaments Of all lamps

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Re: led lights

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:09 pm

There's nothing in that Ontario code that I read that prevents the flashing of brake lights. In fact, the Ontario motorcycle handbook recommends you manually flash your brake lights when braking, it is taught during the MOT motorcycle course, and when taking your motorcycle road test in Ontario, if you fail to flash your brake lights when braking, they will deduct points. Fail to do it more than a few times, and you can fail your road test.

So I find it hard to believe that Ontario would then outlaw flashing brake lights. Most states have an exclusion, like this one, from Tennessee:

"Continuous flashing brake light systems for motorcycles are permissible where the brake lamp pulses rapidly for no more than five (5) seconds when the brake is applied and then converts to a continuous light as a normal brake lamp until such time as the brake is released"

To me, letting up and reapplying your brakes in order to flash your lights is moronic, when you are supposed to be braking. Getting into the habit of always doing this when braking, could mean that when you NEED to brake in an emergency, you could automatically revert to this behavior. In a panic stop, when you MOST need people behind you to know that you are braking, you shouldn't be letting up and reapplying brakes just to flash your brake light. This is where automatic brake light flashers excel.

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Re: led lights

Postby eklimek » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:05 pm

Flashing red rear signage, not brake lights, is covered by the Act. Until OEM specs are restored the motor vehicle would be none compliant upon inspection, except in Tennesse or any other jurisdiction permitting such modification. I don't offer legal advice.

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Re: led lights

Postby st4r50 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Copied from the Virginia code website

CHAPTER 79
An Act to amend and reenact § 46.2-1012 of the Code of Virginia, relating to motorcycle brake lights.
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Approved February 25, 2009



Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That § 46.2-1012 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 46.2-1012. Headlights, auxiliary headlights, tail lights, brake lights, and illumination of license plates on motorcycles.

Every motorcycle shall be equipped with at least one headlight which shall be of a type that has been approved by the Superintendent and shall be capable of projecting sufficient light to the front of such motorcycle to render discernible a person or object at a distance of 200 feet. However, the lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light to persons approaching such motorcycles. In addition, each motorcycle may be equipped with not more than two auxiliary headlights of a type approved by the Superintendent.

Motorcycles may be equipped with means of modulating the high beam of their headlights between high and low beam at a rate of 200 to 280 flashes per minute. Such headlights shall not be so modulated during periods when headlights would ordinarily be required to be lighted under § 46.2-1030.

Every motorcycle registered in the Commonwealth and operated on the highways of the Commonwealth shall be equipped with at least one brake light of a type approved by the Superintendent. Motorcycles may be equipped with one or more auxiliary brake lights of a type approved by the Superintendent. The Superintendent may by regulation prescribe or limit the size, number, location, and configuration of such auxiliary brake lights.

Every motorcycle shall carry at the rear at least one or more red lights plainly visible in clear weather from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of such vehicle. Such tail lights shall be constructed and so mounted in their relation to the rear license plate as to illuminate the license plate with a white light so that the same may be read from a distance of 50 feet to the rear of such vehicle. Alternatively, a separate white light shall be so mounted as to illuminate the rear license plate from a distance of 50 feet to the rear of such vehicle. Any such tail lights or special white light shall be of a type approved by the Superintendent.

Motorcycles may be equipped with a means of varying the brightness of the vehicle's brake light for a duration of not more than five seconds upon application of the vehicle's brakes.


It's legal in Virginia provided it meets this section, "varying the brightness of the vehicle's brake light for a duration of not more than five seconds upon application of the vehicle's brakes."
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Re: led lights

Postby Bouvier1 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:12 am

To me, letting up and reapplying your brakes in order to flash your lights is moronic, when you are supposed to be braking

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Isn't this what ABS system does?




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