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E-3 tires

Postby twostrokes48 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:57 pm



I just put a new set of E3's on my bike before leaving on this trip. My bike now emits this shrill whine/whistle from the tires. It is loud and constant, gets much louder when I lean the bike in either direction and get a little on the sides.....Anyone else experience this with these tires????



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Re: E-3 tires

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:35 pm

Yes. I fixed it by putting a set of Avon Venoms on instead. :)

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby RoadRogue » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:35 am

Yes , All E3's sound like you have a UFO hovering over you when you lean them over.

Wingadmin, I loved my Avons on the 1100 as did you, how do you rate them on the 1500? same kind of handling characteristics?
I have E3's on my 1500 and aside from the noise I am not impressed with them at all. They slide easily in the rain (3rd gear roll on and the rear end is squirming all over the place), make way too much noise and cause the bike wander/wallow in the twisties and sweepers. They are NOT suited to my style of riding. In my opimion if all you want is a relatively long wearing tire for tame (read boring) interstate type of riding and you dont plan on ever getting them wet they maybe for you. I am going to the Darkside on Monday with the Austone taxi tire. I will keep you posted as to my findings 8-)
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby twostrokes48 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:52 am

Hmmmm, long lasting...so how many miles should I expect to get before I can get a new pair of shoes on this baby??? My riding is about 25% twisties, 75% boring cross country miles. This slide out I experienced, I wondered if it was the tires that was partical to blame as I normally would not have expected it in the weather I was riding in with NEW tires.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:41 am

I've got a set of Avon's sitting in my garage to replace the E 3's when necessary. Front will be coming off soon.

Mileage on the E 3's - I seem to recall folks getting 30,000 miles out of the rear. I've got about 18,000 miles on mine and there is still lots left. The mileage figure has so many variables though so results will differ.

I'm looking forward to the Venom's. I had no handling issues with the Dunlop's but I drive like a Grandpa. Wait a minute I am a Grandpa. Noise and cupping are my complaints.
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:23 pm

RoadRogue wrote:Yes , All E3's sound like you have a UFO hovering over you when you lean them over.

Wingadmin, I loved my Avons on the 1100 as did you, how do you rate them on the 1500? same kind of handling characteristics?
I have E3's on my 1500 and aside from the noise I am not impressed with them at all. They slide easily in the rain (3rd gear roll on and the rear end is squirming all over the place), make way too much noise and cause the bike wander/wallow in the twisties and sweepers. They are NOT suited to my style of riding. In my opimion if all you want is a relatively long wearing tire for tame (read boring) interstate type of riding and you dont plan on ever getting them wet they maybe for you. I am going to the Darkside on Monday with the Austone taxi tire. I will keep you posted as to my findings 8-)


On the 1500 I find them equally as impressive as I did on the 1100. The rear tire has a huge band in the middle with no siping at all - looks like a slick racing tire, and I had really worried about water evacuation, but after riding through that torrential downpour through the Appalachians and staying firmly planted throughout, I have no concerns anymore. I have been unable to break the rear Avon loose, where I had several "exciting" moments when that happened on the E3's that the bike came with.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby RoadRogue » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:31 pm

WingAdming wrote:On the 1500 I find them equally as impressive as I did on the 1100. The rear tire has a huge band in the middle with no siping at all - looks like a slick racing tire, and I had really worried about water evacuation, but after riding through that torrential downpour through the Appalachians and staying firmly planted throughout, I have no concerns anymore. I have been unable to break the rear Avon loose, where I had several "exciting" moments when that happened on the E3's that the bike came with.


This was the biggest problem for me too with the E3's , I had absolutely no confidence in them when the road was wet. Even on dry pavement I broke the rear loose while accelerating in first from a stop sign ,turning left onto the hiway. Big power slide to the right, skinny little black stripe on the ground behind me (Ok that one was fun, reminded me of the old Valkerie comercials where the guy is drifting the valk on the dry lake bed).

I have a new E3 on the front (10000km ago)I will probably keep it until I wear it out unless it slips out on me ,then I will go back to the Avon VenomX again. However the rear is about as bald as I am. New Austone CT arrives tomorrow.
I know what I am doing tomorrow after work. hopefully it goes on smoothly as I ride my bike to work every day and need it to be back together with the new rubber seated before bed time.If it was the 1100 I would say that I could do it in about an hour, but I havent taken the rear off the 1500 yet, I will have your how to article on the laptop within easy arms reach, got my moly60 ready too.
Does any body have a favorite bead lube to aid in seating their tires, soapy water is out for me because I dont want the water inside the tire, I use Dyna beads. When I put the front tire on earlier this spring I used Lemon Pledge sprayed on a rag and wiped around the bead. worked like a charm. no excess moisture to clog up the Dyna beads. 8-)
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:06 pm

RoadRogue wrote:Does any body have a favorite bead lube to aid in seating their tires, soapy water is out for me because I dont want the water inside the tire, I use Dyna beads. When I put the front tire on earlier this spring I used Lemon Pledge sprayed on a rag and wiped around the bead. worked like a charm. no excess moisture to clog up the Dyna beads. 8-)


Armor All. It goes on, dries, and stays reasonably slippery.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby charliektm400exc » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:58 pm

RoadRogue wrote:Does any body have a favorite bead lube to aid in seating their tires, soapy water is out for me because I dont want the water inside the tire, I use Dyna beads. When I put the front tire on earlier this spring I used Lemon Pledge sprayed on a rag and wiped around the bead. worked like a charm. no excess moisture to clog up the Dyna beads. 8-)


Mushed up soap with enough water added that it's just thin enough to put on with your fingers.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby moneypit » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:00 pm

yup sure did I just changed the E3 on the front to a Michelin Commander 2 and the super anoughing high pitch noise is gone and no more Death Wobble now I have Commander 2 on both ends and its amazing how quit and smooth it rides .

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby ct1500 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:05 pm

Newer E3's with the MT designation for multi tread do not sing in the corners anymore.
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby JohnSargent » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:55 am

Well, just put a new E3 on the front. Thought twice about it because of the wobble but my mechanic advisor swears by the tire adni will give it one more try. I still have a little wobble at low speed that has got me thinking bearing. Looked good when tire was changed but could be the reason too. We'll see. The singing from the rear will be changed when I have to replace the tire. It is a little annoying but tolerable.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby Overdog » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:23 pm

moneypit wrote:yup sure did I just changed the E3 on the front to a Michelin Commander 2 and the super anoughing high pitch noise is gone and no more Death Wobble now I have Commander 2 on both ends and its amazing how quit and smooth it rides .



What size tire are you running on the front? I have an 83 Interstate and don't see a 120/90 18 listed anywhere

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby rufus15 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:11 pm

I'm curious, just bought a set of E-3's to replace factory stones. ct1500 mentioned the MT designation on them and is suppose to have fixed any problems. I'll look for it on my tires prior to mounting them. I do have a question if someone can help. Just rolled over 9,500 miles with the original tires and rear tire has developed a flat spot down the center, but front appears to to be fine and in great shape. Keep 36 up front and 44 in the rear, and wondering if this is normal with this mileage not to mention everyone has an idea of what psi is needed for both tires to make them last.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:05 am

other than the noise the first set of E3's were the best set I've had on my 1500 wing, keeping the air pressure up is number one with E3's or the bike will wollow and have bad handling in general
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:03 am

rufus15 wrote:I'm curious, just bought a set of E-3's to replace factory stones. ct1500 mentioned the MT designation on them and is suppose to have fixed any problems. I'll look for it on my tires prior to mounting them. I do have a question if someone can help. Just rolled over 9,500 miles with the original tires and rear tire has developed a flat spot down the center, but front appears to to be fine and in great shape. Keep 36 up front and 44 in the rear, and wondering if this is normal with this mileage not to mention everyone has an idea of what psi is needed for both tires to make them last.


I've never had a tire on a bike that DIDN'T develop that flat bit down the center of its rear tire after time.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby PastoT » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:47 pm

I run E-3s exclusively and have had them sing to me if the front is cupped or the back is feathered. Easy prevention and on occasion a slow fix; run 41/44 PSI front and back, if you run 200 miles on a front that is below 40 it will cup and sing to you fast; I reversed my front tires chorus after returning the pressure from 38 to 41 and riding - it took 100 miles (it was a nice twisty road as well). My third set on this bike are the dual compound and I'm running dyna beads and again 41/44 psi and at 8k no cupping or feathering and I usually hit the open road with a trailer. Rear will normally gain a flat center if you live on the slab. This summer I had lots of miles on twisty state highways and the rest on interstate and I fully expect to get 19k miles or more out of these as well.
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby rufus15 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:49 am

Thanks for the input, mounting them soon and I'll increase the front to to 41 to start. Just one more thing I have to add, never came across a tire that was cupped and would love to see a picture if someone can provide one so I know what to look for. Thanks.

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Re: E-3 tires

Postby dingdong » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:07 am

extreme case of cupping. viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24634
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Re: E-3 tires

Postby joeincalif » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:48 am

After only getting about 8 - 10,000 miles from radials on my 1800 Gold Wings I look forward to getting twice that mileage on my 1500 as many of you have said your getting. Of course, most of my miles are on twisty mountain roads and I do ride hard so even if I get 15000 I will be happy.
I have E3's on my 97 SE now and absolutely no wobble at all.


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