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Nitrogen

Postby gordon49 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:08 am



Any one running nitrogen in their Goldwing? I run it in my Explorer so checked with Honda shop and they put it in the tires. Except for a nail in rear tire has done very well. Don't have to top off as much as with air.



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Re: Nitrogen

Postby Blackngold » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:48 am

Well thats like asking about everyones fav. brand of oil or who makes the best tire? Your going to get lots of different opinions. Without going into lots of detail, Just know this, nit. is very plentiful and therefore should be cheap,dont pay much for it if you decide to use it.

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Re: Nitrogen

Postby tfdeputydawg » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:17 am

Yes, many varied answers on this.
The air you breath is 78% nitrogen.
Unless there is a way present to completely evacuate all air from a tire, one will never achieve 100% Nit. in a tire!
As mentioned, never ever pay anything for this service.

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Re: Nitrogen

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:30 pm

I don;t buy into the nitrogen frenzy at all. If I was driving in F1 I would use nitrogen otherwise air seems to work fairly well and it's been around for quite some time.
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Re: Nitrogen

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:17 pm

Nitrogen is good if you want absolutely dry "air" in there as long as you can purge all traces of atmosphere when you seat the bead.Otherwise I believe it to be the latest "snake oil remedy" designed to seperate you from your money. 8-)
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Re: Nitrogen

Postby eklimek » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:21 pm

Love the concept. Heating cycle and high temperture rubber compounds dgrade in the presence of oxygen. Hence eliminate oxygen to extend tire life.

http://www.getnitrogen.org/why/index.php

"Commercial Airlines – The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) requires nitrogen in all commercial aircraft tires to eliminate the potential for water vapor (inherent in normal compressed air) from freezing at high altitudes. In addition, aircraft manufacturers such as Boeing use nitrogen membranes in their On-Board Inert Gas Generation Systems (OBIGGS) to "top" fuel tanks with nitrogen - an inert gas that does not support combustion. "

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Re: Nitrogen

Postby dingdong » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:58 am

Somehow I don't foresee riding at 30,000 feet and as for degradation, my tires usually degrade on the outside way too fast to worry about the inside. I'll hang on to my bucks, thank you very much!
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Re: Nitrogen

Postby bustedwing » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:45 pm

I'll go along with ding dong on this one, unless you evacuate all moisture from your tire from the beginning, you already have some NIT in normal O2, and my tires wear out from the outside in so I believe it s another "snake oil" as Road Rogue said. Save your money for some good bling.
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Re: Nitrogen

Postby seabee_ » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:11 pm

Nitrogen is like high octane gas. Sure, it may have some benefits, but why spend more money on something that isn't needed? Air is made up of mostly nitrogen, a little more nitrogen isn't going to make a difference in a car/motorcycle tire. Maybe for an airplane tire..... It's all hype for some shops to make more money. I don't think their machines will really make 'pure' nitrogen to fill your tires, so at best, you're getting a little more 'nitrogen enriched' air to fill your tires. Save your pennies and use them for something else to use for your tires. Me? I would feel better 'checking' my air pressure at least once a week.
But hey, what do I know? I just install tires for a living. :roll:
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Re: Nitrogen

Postby fixbikes » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:14 pm

I figure that most tires are run at about 30 psig (pounds per square inch gauge), and unless you can pull a vacuum on your tires without unseating the bead, they have about 14.7 pounds (absolute) in them before you install the valve core. So, at best, you are going to have 2/3 nitrogen (assuming you have scientific grade nitrogen in a bottle on hand, which would be chemically pure), and about 1/3 normal, everyday atmosphere in there. So is it worth extra money ? Unless you are running an F1 that is going to get to really high tire temps, rather quickly, and a change in pressure from thermal expansion can cost you a race, or worse, (and money is no object), then I don't think it is any more than snake oil. Nitrogen or not, I am still going to be checking my tire pressure at least once a week, anyway.
Routine maintenance will beat fail-safe every time over the long run.
Now, if it would markedly extend my TREAD life, well....




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