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run a tube type tire?

Postby pudd750 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:27 pm



anyone know what makes a tubeless tire ? i have a new tube type bridgestone 160-90-15 tube type and was wondering he ill effects if installed thanks- it seems ive heard its ok as long as i install a tube- dont want to do that



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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby SteveB123 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:54 pm

pudd750 wrote:anyone know what makes a tubeless tire ? i have a new tube type bridgestone 160-90-15 tube type and was wondering he ill effects if installed thanks- it seems ive heard its ok as long as i install a tube- dont want to do that


Every tire manfacturer makes tubeless tires.
What is your rationale for not running a tube in a tube-type tire?
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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby RoadRogue » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:52 pm

If you dont put a tube in a tube type tire it will not hold the air, it will leak out period. 8-)
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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby pudd750 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:11 pm

SteveB123 wrote:
pudd750 wrote:anyone know what makes a tubeless tire ? i have a new tube type bridgestone 160-90-15 tube type and was wondering he ill effects if installed thanks- it seems ive heard its ok as long as i install a tube- dont want to do that


Every tire manfacturer makes tubeless tires.
What is your rationale for not running a tube in a tube-type tire?

just dont like tubes- specially in a tubeless rim-- ive found Honda aluminum tubeless rims to be made of real good material, clean the bead up and it wont leak, nor have i found much of any oxidation in the bead area- hate to run a tube in such a nice setup

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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby pudd750 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:13 pm

RoadRogue wrote:If you dont put a tube in a tube type tire it will not hold the air, it will leak out period. 8-)

thanks i thought that was the case-

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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby feetup » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:48 am

The biggest difference between a tubeless and a tube type tire is the bead. The tubeless tire has a soft rubber sealing layer over the bead whereas the tube type has a hard bead, of the same rubber as the sidewall and tread, and often they merely have the fabric of the carcass impregnated with rubber wrapped around the wire bead. The tubeless tire is also lined with the same soft rubber to keep the air from getting between the carcass layers, and separating them, which would lead to catastrophic failure. It is not intended to hold air, and short of gluing it on with a vulcanizing rubber I don't know of any way to seal it at the bead, and no way other than lining it with a tube to keep the air from getting into the structure of the tire. The rim dimensions will be the same for both types within a given tire size.

How old is the tire you have? If it is older, the rubber is likely aged to hardness, like cheese. Not what you want keeping your butt separated from the asphalt.

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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby 86pearlblue » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:33 pm

How old is the tire you have? If it is older, the rubber is likely aged to hardness, like cheese. Not what you want keeping your butt separated from the asphalt.


10 years is the recommended age to take tires out of service. In this pic, it shows the tire was made in the 6th week of 2011.
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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:21 pm

86pearlblue wrote:
How old is the tire you have? If it is older, the rubber is likely aged to hardness, like cheese. Not what you want keeping your butt separated from the asphalt.


10 years is the recommended age to take tires out of service. In this pic, it shows the tire was made in the 6th week of 2011.


More like 6-7 years. I would never use a tire that is 10 years old. Have a look at: How to tell the age of your tires

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Re: run a tube type tire?

Postby pudd750 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:23 pm

i have a Bridgestone Excedra with an 04 pour date- i was going to whine about makers pouring tube type tires, but there are a lot of spoked retro bikes out there and always will be, so they can run a cheaper tire and altho probably not much cheaper to buy , save the makers money by not giving them an inner skin of smooth rubber




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