Starting after winter storage


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Starting after winter storage

Postby tbeiler » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:50 pm



I bought an 1986 GW Aspencade last fall, drove it for about 300 miles before storing it for winter.
To get it ready for riding, I plan to change the oil and put in a new air filter.
Would it be a good idea to pour a little oil (how much oil) into the spark plug holes to get cylinders lubed up, before I turn the crank over. I am assuming that since it has been stored, the cylinders will be very dry.
As far as type of air flter, do your recommend a standard paper air filter or a K & N. Can the oil from the K&N filter contaminate anything downstream of filter.
Any other maintenance items before I fire her up? :lol:



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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby cbx4evr » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:17 pm

I'm not a fan of the K&N filter but that's my opinion and you will get the opposite. It's a decision best made on your own.

When I fire my bike up in the spring I do not remove plugs and squirt oil in there. I suppose it wouldn't hurt but when I am anxious to get it running I tend to get lazy.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:36 pm

You're better off squirting the oil in the cylinders and cranking it BEFORE you put it away for storage. That said it won't hurt to do it now, but I don't know that it's going to give you a huge amount of benefit.

I'm with cbx, I'm not a fan of the K&N filters. They simply let too much particulate through into the engine.

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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby Big Blue UK » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:52 am

Can you not not just run the engine for a few seconds once a fortnight/month, assuming you regularly plug it into the mains. Mine gets started once a fortnight in winter.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby Doug B. » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:38 am

I wouldn't squirt oil in the cylinders PRIOR to starting first thing in the spring. Oil is just on the other side of the rings to do any lubing that needs to be done. Storing away in the fall possibly, but I never do.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby SteveB123 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:07 am

LegsandaWing wrote:Can you not not just run the engine for a few seconds once a fortnight/month,


I guess he can, once time travel is available.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby bustedwing » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:11 am

There is no real need to squirt oil in the cylinders now. When you put the bike into storage one of the most important things to do is add fuel stabilizer and run the bike so it gets into the carbs. You CAN squirt a little oil into the cylinders then, but it's not a dire necessity.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:50 am

LegsandaWing wrote:Can you not not just run the engine for a few seconds once a fortnight/month, assuming you regularly plug it into the mains. Mine gets started once a fortnight in winter.


This is pretty much the worst thing you can do. One of the byproducts of engine combustion is water. When you start the bike for a minute or two, that water being produced hits the cold exhaust system and condenses on the inside of it. You then shut it off, and that water, along with the various corrosive elements in the exhaust, corrodes the exhaust system, rusting it from the inside out.

This is why, when you are putting your bike away for the winter, you should take it for a ride for a good hour, making sure the exhaust is very hot, and that any remaining moisture will be evaporated.

As well, the time when an engine experiences the most wear is at cold startup, before oil has begun to circulate. When the bike has sat for a week or two, and all of the oil has drained completely to the sump, when you first start it up, you're running with minimal lubrication and maximum wear. By starting it for a few minutes every couple of weeks during the winter, with cold oil, you're basically repeatedly causing the most possible amount of wear to the internal components of your engine.

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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby wilmo » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:25 pm

one suggestion I've been told is to put the run switch on kill and just crank it for a few seconds to prime the oil pump. Then put it on run and start it. Don't really know how effective it is but I don't think it hurts. No matter what, the first start after a long dry spell is the worst thing for it. But what do ya do? To not damage anything don't ever start it again? :roll:

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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby SteveB123 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:32 pm

wilmo wrote:one suggestion I've been told is to put the run switch on kill and just crank it for a few seconds to prime the oil pump. Then put it on run and start it. Don't really know how effective it is but I don't think it hurts. No matter what, the first start after a long dry spell is the worst thing for it. But what do ya do? To not damage anything don't ever start it again? :roll:


Pull the plugs, THEN the kill switch and crank. No compression, so very little internal pressures on bearings etc.
Spins up the oil, and fuel into the carbs.
Plugs in, ignition on, and it's showtime.
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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:34 pm

tbeiler wrote:I bought an 1986 GW Aspencade last fall, drove it for about 300 miles before storing it for winter.
To get it ready for riding, I plan to change the oil and put in a new air filter.
Would it be a good idea to pour a little oil (how much oil) into the spark plug holes to get cylinders lubed up, before I turn the crank over. I am assuming that since it has been stored, the cylinders will be very dry.
As far as type of air flter, do your recommend a standard paper air filter or a K & N. Can the oil from the K&N filter contaminate anything downstream of filter.
Any other maintenance items before I fire her up? :lol:


Cranking with the kill switch off as you mention is an excellent way to pre-lubricate the engine without the stress of it actually running.

For my bikes, I end up using standard Honda air filters. I've read some very bad analysis about K&N, particularly in their propensity to allow large particles through, and I stay away from them.

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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby tbeiler » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:18 pm

Hi Guys - Thanks for the info. The idea of pulling the plugs and cranking with kill switch on to lube everything up makes good sense to me. Also good info about not starting the bike regularly basis. I can see how condensation would build up in the muffler system and start the rusting from inside/out by not allowing all condensation to evaporate. I also read the details about K&N filters studies (found them by searching) and it seems they would be a poorer choice than the standard Honda filters, since they would let larger particulates through the system. I know what I'll be doing come the nice weather. Thanks, TB

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Re: Starting after winter storage

Postby wilmo » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:03 pm

SteveB123 wrote:Pull the plugs, THEN the kill switch and crank. No compression, so very little internal pressures on bearings etc.
Spins up the oil, and fuel into the carbs.
Plugs in, ignition on, and it's showtime.

whoops forgot to mention that. I had my plugs out when I did it




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