Project Scrappy Starts


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nlovern
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Project Scrappy Starts

Postby nlovern » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:47 am



Hi,
Nathan Lovern here. Im starting to take Scrappy down, 80 GL1100. it only has 24,000 on it. But has sat outside for 20 years with no plugs in it. When I drained the oil a gallon of water came out. :lol:
Luckly the radiator looked good ant the anirfreeze was clean and bright green. All good there I hope. That motor has no oil leaks or greese on it anywhere just dust n dirt. Harness looks good except where the CDI box was cut off. theres several inches of wire there to add a new plug when I find a cdi box for it. Sure wish it was a points system. (Will a GL1000 points head fit on a 1100?) Just courious.
Not going to use the fairing or luggage boxes. all are good no cracks. If anyone wants them a kind donation to the scrappy fund and anyone can have them :-)Hope to not have over $500 in her. Still need a title for a gl1100 to.
I have pics on my facebook if anyone wants to keep up with my project. Do I need to keep the 3 pound weight on the front if the fairing is not on it?
Thanks everyone for being here and your great site.
Nathan Lovern



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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby tom84std » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:56 am

Nathan I've got to ask the obvious question. The plug holes were exposed and the crankcase had water, does it turn over? I wonder if the carbs had old gas or got any water in? I'm sort of looking for an old wing project too, but not actively searching. If it's meant to be, one will show itself. I'll go look on facebook.

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:00 am

If you remove the fairing, the 3 lb weight also gets removed, and in its place is where the headlight goes.

nlovern
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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby nlovern » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:28 am

The motor doesn't turn over. the spark plug holes are filled with rust. shifter stuck, back wheel wont turn with clutch lever pulled in. Clutch plates stuck together.

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby deanbw » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:00 pm

not trying to rain in your spark plug holes but my guess is you will have more than 500 in just getting the engine to run. you can buy an engine shipped to you for that much, my be something to think about, a lot less headaches. You are going to have rusted shifter shafts, cylinder walls, valve stems, cam lobes, lots of things will most likely be shot and not worth replacing, just my thoughts but best of luck to you.

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby nlovern » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:32 pm

deanbw wrote:not trying to rain in your spark plug holes but my guess is you will have more than 500 in just getting the engine to run. you can buy an engine shipped to you for that much, my be something to think about, a lot less headaches. You are going to have rusted shifter shafts, cylinder walls, valve stems, cam lobes, lots of things will most likely be shot and not worth replacing, just my thoughts but best of luck to you.

Hi,
Ive got a motor this weekend for $300. Was lucky to find one so close to me and lucky the wife said I could use $300. Its scarry when a woman says you can use mny :-)

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby Overdog » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:35 pm

I'm fairly new to wings myself but if I've learned one thing so far it's that the 1100s went through a bunch of changes from 80 to 83. Your swap my not be exactly plug-and-play if your new motor is a different year than your bike. There's a ton of knowledge on this forum...I'm sure somebody can get you through it.....

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby k1w1t1m » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:38 pm

From your description I'd say your current motor is a boat anchor. Twenty years of water in the bores means the motor is probably one solid lump of rust inside and even if freed the bores are long gone. The replacement motor should fit fine, I don't think they made many changes to the 1100s. The weight on the forks and the box behind it can be taken off, they are replaced by the headlight. All the wring goes in the headlight bucket. You will need to get hold of some ears to hold the headlight. IIRC some other Hondas ears are the same and fit.

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Re: Project Scrappy Starts

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:20 am

Right, for the most part, with minor changes, 1100 engines are all alike, and you can fit one from any year into your bike without many changes. I agree that the current engine you have is very likely rusty scrap.




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