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dyna beads

Postby mtnwingrider » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:19 pm



First of all let me say this was my F/U and I don't want anyone else to suffer the same lol. I bought some dyna beads to install in my new dunlop E3 for my gl1200 85 Aspy. On there home page (https://www.bestrestproducts.com/p-194-dyna-beads.aspx) in red it gives a way to quickly blast the beads into the tire. My issue was after reading this I thought wow this will be simple. Had the tire mounted, took off their mounting weights, attached hose as directed. Shot a quick blast of air which went right thru the beads and when I removed the nozzle the first 2 ozs went all over the shop. Hmmmm I thought. Maybe to much pressure. Dropped it down to 40 psi and tried again. Same result. Well if you read the included instructions all the way to the back it clearly states if you have right angle valve stems you must put the beads into the tire when mounting it. My bad. I called Dyna Beads and told them they needed to add that to their bold in red easy to install air blowing method of instructions. So if you have permanently mounted right angle valve stems don't do what I did. I really wanted to use the beads so I will order them again and when I have a few miles on the tire I will unmount it break the bead and install the beads at that point.



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Re: dyna beads

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:29 pm

You can use this method on right-angled stems with no problem - did you remember to remove the valve core first?





See: How to install Dyna Beads

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Re: dyna beads

Postby Wilcoy02 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:51 pm

If you did not take the valve stem out they will not go in.

I have used dyna beads on several sets of tires now.
I am going to try "rideon" on my next set of tires. It is a liquid and it is supposed to do what the dyna beads do =AND it will seal any punctures in the tire.

I am trying "rideon" as my trip to Alaska will give me some comfort of no flat tires. I found rideon thru a forum where several have gone to Alaska and had no tire problems using it.

http://www.ride-on.com/

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Re: dyna beads

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:38 pm

Wilcoy02 wrote:If you did not take the valve stem out they will not go in.

I have used dyna beads on several sets of tires now.
I am going to try "rideon" on my next set of tires. It is a liquid and it is supposed to do what the dyna beads do =AND it will seal any punctures in the tire.

I am trying "rideon" as my trip to Alaska will give me some comfort of no flat tires. I found rideon thru a forum where several have gone to Alaska and had no tire problems using it.

http://www.ride-on.com/


Just be sure to let whoever changes your tires know that the stuff is in there first. It can make a big mess when demounting tires. Most places will charge extra for tires with liquid sealant inside, because they have to clean the goop off of their machines afterwards.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby robb » Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:39 pm

I agree they will go in with a 90 degree stem. Found a very small kitchen funnel and a foot of clear tubing works great. This allowed for 2 oz beads in the tube and light tapping on valve stem allowed the beads to move faster. Using air can be problematic if an air filter is not used, moisture will clump the beads.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby thrasherg » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:25 pm

I did it just as Admin shows, removed the valve from the right angle valve stem, then put a piece of transparent tubing on the valve, poured the BB's into the tubing and then with a small screw driver, just tapped the Valve stem lightly and all the little balls slowly run down and into the tyre.. I takes about 10 minutes per tyre, but it beats demounting the wheel, breaking the bead a pouring the balls in!! Worth a try.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby MikeB » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:03 pm

WingAdmin wrote:You can use this method on right-angled stems with no problem - did you remember to remove the valve core first?





See: How to install Dyna Beads

If you look closely at the 90 degree stems in WingAdmin's video you will see that they are not OEM stems. They are the solid metal stems with a nut that holds them in place. Like this one:

Those stems have a larger overall bore than the Honda OEM metal and rubber stems.

The Honda stems look like this:

Even the straight OEM stems have a necked down bore to them. I had trouble getting the beads in the stems of my ST1100. Seemed like it took me about three or four times as long to get them in than with the after market metal stems.
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Re: dyna beads

Postby tfdeputydawg » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:26 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Wilcoy02 wrote:If you did not take the valve stem out they will not go in.

I have used dyna beads on several sets of tires now.
I am going to try "rideon" on my next set of tires. It is a liquid and it is supposed to do what the dyna beads do =AND it will seal any punctures in the tire.

I am trying "rideon" as my trip to Alaska will give me some comfort of no flat tires. I found rideon thru a forum where several have gone to Alaska and had no tire problems using it.

http://www.ride-on.com/


Just be sure to let whoever changes your tires know that the stuff is in there first. It can make a big mess when demounting tires. Most places will charge extra for tires with liquid sealant inside, because they have to clean the goop off of their machines afterwards.

I would debate the mess statement with you!!!
Have used RideOn for years. It stays where it belongs and does not make a mess. However, one must follow the directions and take the bike for a "ride" after putting it in the tires to disperse it properly.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby mtnwingrider » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:57 pm

Well Im glad they went in for you guys. First I'm not stupid enough to try or even think they would go in with the valve stem in. Give me a little credit here guys. Second the valve stem in Admins video has a nice curve in it. Mine are hard right angle valve stems. As a last resort I tried gathering some of the beads up and tried putting them in by hand. They would NOT go thru the angle on my stems. When I called Dyna Beads they were adamant about not trying to put them thru right angle stems. On the back of their instructions it also clearly says not to go thru right angle stems. These are the style of stems I have http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcy ... re_valves/ As I said in my post this was not their fault but mine for not following instructions.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby MikeB » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:16 am

Ahhh.. now that is a stem of a different color. Had I known that, I would not have posted what I did. No, those will not pass the beads. Now they MIGHT pass Counteract balance Beads but not Dyna Beads. http://www.counteractbalancing.com/ Counteract beads are a little smaller in diameter than Dyna Beads. I know this because I have used both. Both work fine for balancing.
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Re: dyna beads

Postby Wilcoy02 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:54 am

This is a good post for the next person who is looking into dyna beads. We all now know they will not go in a 90 degree angled stem. We try to be basic in our posts.
I learned this today --so now I can cross that off my list of things to do today.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby themainviking » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:37 am

I have a GL1800 with the stock 90 degree valves, with TPMS. It took about fifteen minutes per tire, but I put Dyna Beads in through these valve stems. I did put the beads in with the tires lying on their sides, before putting them back on the motorcycle. That may have helped. I bought a whole bunch of dyna beads when I ordered, to save shipping, so I had not been back to their site for a couple of years and therefore did not remember to not put the beads in through ninety degree valves. Sometimes ignorance is a wonderful thing... :lol:
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Re: dyna beads

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:10 am

tfdeputydawg wrote:I would debate the mess statement with you!!!
Have used RideOn for years. It stays where it belongs and does not make a mess. However, one must follow the directions and take the bike for a "ride" after putting it in the tires to disperse it properly.


Having been the guy who cleaned the huge mess off the tire changing machine (the tires that came with my GL1500 had ride-on in them), I can let you know this is an accurate statement. :)

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Re: dyna beads

Postby FM-USA » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:11 am

WingAdmin wrote:
tfdeputydawg wrote:I would debate the mess statement with you!!!
Have used RideOn for years. It stays where it belongs and does not make a mess. However, one must follow the directions and take the bike for a "ride" after putting it in the tires to disperse it properly.


Having been the guy who cleaned the huge mess off the tire changing machine (the tires that came with my GL1500 had ride-on in them), I can let you know this is an accurate statement. :)

Way back, wasn't there a product that needed to be ridden on for at least one hundred miles so it cures by the tires heat. When cured, it's a gelatin membrane that stayed in place but was soft enough to seal around nails and screws.
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Re: dyna beads

Postby tfdeputydawg » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:06 am

WingAdmin wrote:
tfdeputydawg wrote:I would debate the mess statement with you!!!
Have used RideOn for years. It stays where it belongs and does not make a mess. However, one must follow the directions and take the bike for a "ride" after putting it in the tires to disperse it properly.


Having been the guy who cleaned the huge mess off the tire changing machine (the tires that came with my GL1500 had ride-on in them), I can let you know this is an accurate statement. :)


Did U install it properly? (Valve stem at the 3 or the 9 0'clock, position). Did you shoot a blast of air in the valve before putting the stem back in? Did U immediately go for a ride, to get proper dispersement? What exactly did you have to clean up off the changer? Heard that complaint, about the changer mess, from my tire changer the first time I bought tires there. Promised him I'd clean the changer if there was any mess (by the way RideOn is water soluble). Turns out the "mess" was made by Slime, not RideOn!
I have no vested interest in the Company, just like the product a lot and never, ever have had any problems!

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Re: dyna beads

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:23 pm

tfdeputydawg wrote:
WingAdmin wrote:
tfdeputydawg wrote:I would debate the mess statement with you!!!
Have used RideOn for years. It stays where it belongs and does not make a mess. However, one must follow the directions and take the bike for a "ride" after putting it in the tires to disperse it properly.


Having been the guy who cleaned the huge mess off the tire changing machine (the tires that came with my GL1500 had ride-on in them), I can let you know this is an accurate statement. :)


Did U install it properly? (Valve stem at the 3 or the 9 0'clock, position). Did you shoot a blast of air in the valve before putting the stem back in? Did U immediately go for a ride, to get proper dispersement? What exactly did you have to clean up off the changer? Heard that complaint, about the changer mess, from my tire changer the first time I bought tires there. Promised him I'd clean the changer if there was any mess (by the way RideOn is water soluble). Turns out the "mess" was made by Slime, not RideOn!
I have no vested interest in the Company, just like the product a lot and never, ever have had any problems!


I didn't put it in the tire, it was in there when I bought the bike. It did not come out when I deflated the tire (took the valve stem out, just air came out), but when I broke the bead on the bottom side, it dripped out everywhere.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby tfdeputydawg » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:54 am

I didn't put it in the tire, it was in there when I bought the bike. It did not come out when I deflated the tire (took the valve stem out, just air came out), but when I broke the bead on the bottom side, it dripped out everywhere.

Thanks for your response>
Do you remember what color the product was?

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Re: dyna beads

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:51 am

tfdeputydawg wrote:
I didn't put it in the tire, it was in there when I bought the bike. It did not come out when I deflated the tire (took the valve stem out, just air came out), but when I broke the bead on the bottom side, it dripped out everywhere.

Thanks for your response>
Do you remember what color the product was?


It's been a few years, but I *think* it was green, like the Slime product.

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Re: dyna beads

Postby tfdeputydawg » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:07 am

WingAdmin wrote:
tfdeputydawg wrote:
I didn't put it in the tire, it was in there when I bought the bike. It did not come out when I deflated the tire (took the valve stem out, just air came out), but when I broke the bead on the bottom side, it dripped out everywhere.

Thanks for your response>
Do you remember what color the product was?


It's been a few years, but I *think* it was green, like the Slime product.

Thank you! If green it was most likely Slime and that's exactly what it is, a "Slimy" mess. RideOn is a salmon color and stays "put".

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Re: dyna beads

Postby greatwhite » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:33 pm

I have put Dyna Beads into my GL1500 tires with the stock 90 degree stems twice.
I used a two foot long piece of clear tubing and the bottle that came with it. i cut the bottom off of the bottle so that air would help them down . I held a vibrating tool against the tubing close to the stem while i held the bottle up and they went right in.




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