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adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby halcombrick » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:42 pm



hey guys i had to go the cheap route and get a wally world battery for my 1100. when filling it up by the time im finished i have a cell that is empty, im like wtf? do i just fill that cell with distilled water when topping off the other cells or what, never done this before so im not sure what to do,,thanks


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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:49 pm

halcombrick wrote:hey guys i had to go the cheap route and get a wally world battery for my 1100. when filling it up by the time im finished i have a cell that is empty, im like wtf? do i just fill that cell with distilled water when topping off the other cells or what, never done this before so im not sure what to do,,thanks


wait a sec, you mean you didn't have enough battery acid to fill the entire battery? no, DO NOT fill the rest of the cells up with distilled water. take the battery back and get another one and make sure it has a full container of battery acid to fill ALL the cells up to the upper full mark that's on the battery. sounds like someone used that container of battery acid before YOU got it. there's no other reason you ran out of it before the battery was completely full.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby MikeB » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:46 pm

Or, you can go to a battery retailer and have them add a little acid for you. They should have lots of acid on hand.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:49 pm

of if your friends with your local auto parts store, they should do it for you also.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby Wilcoy02 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:51 pm

Make sure you charge the battery up before starting anything with it. It makes the battery last longer.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby halcombrick » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:05 pm

the acid was unopened, i have talked to a few other guys and they said they have had the same problem with walmart, and they gave them some more acid they just dont put enough in the container apparently
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby spiralout » Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:06 pm

roadwanderer2 wrote:sounds like someone used that container of battery acid before YOU got it. there's no other reason you ran out of it before the battery was completely full.

There IS another reason. That's how a lot of the Walmart Everstart motorsports batteries are sold now. The last 3 I've gotten don't come with enough to fill all the cells and my brother has gotten 1 for his 4-wheeler that was the same way. Exchanging it is just going to get you another that wont fill the cells.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:50 am

good morning guys.

well this is a first for me, I've never heard of that happening before. last time I bought a battery from walmart I never had a problem with not having enough battery acid to fill the battery. oh well, I guess cut backs have hit everywhere lol. in the mean time im getting ready to head out on my 294 mile round trip journey to the veterans hospital for a post op eye exam that should take about 20 minutes lol. wonderful a 6 hour ride for a 20 minute visit.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby robb » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:34 am

I'm still using same battery purchased from Walmart in 2000. The directions said to evenly fill the cells to a line marked on battery then top off with water to upper mark. There has never been enough acid to completely fill since some water is needed to activate. I used a bottle of drinking water. Charge overnight then use. There are some cheap batterys sold with a diluted acid mix that will fill, but once fully charged will need to be topped off with water.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby halcombrick » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:05 am

i understand that robb, but it shouldnt be so short that you have a whole cell that is empty.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby MikeB » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:13 am

halcombrick wrote:i understand that robb, but it shouldnt be so short that you have a whole cell that is empty.

Agreed. WalMart needs to correct this issue for you.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:41 pm

last time I bought a battery, last year, it was from O'reillys auto parts, and I had not only enough acid to fill the battery, but I STILL have about 1/3rd of the battery acid container left.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby robb » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:27 pm

halcombrick wrote:i understand that robb, but it shouldnt be so short that you have a whole cell that is empty.


There is usually enough to fill 5 cells to the top or 6 to 1st line. Four mowers and 3 bikes all running off Walmart batteries.

Only difference between batteries is the cell technology. The O'reillys battery has a cell that may take 5 hours to fully soak with acid. That 1/3 left over may be needed after a short time of service.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby harvey01 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:19 am

It seems to me that if Walmart wanted you to fill the batteries to some point less than the top of each cell they would explain this in their directions to prepare the battery for installation. And then tell you to add distilled water and then explain how they want the battery charged prior to installation.

I have found such directions with every battery I have ever bought whether from Sears, NAPA, Walmart, or a Yuasa.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby FM-USA » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:39 am

Since the late 60's, my first bike, I fill each of the cells to only cover the plates then evenly distribute the rest of the acid. One never knows if you're going to be shorted. Car batteries are solid black and you must constantly look down the fill hole to do this fill procedure...(P.I.T.T) (The Tush)

My Wing the PO owned it for 2 years and said the battery from his PO who installed it new about 3 years prior to that. So when I got the bike the battery was about 5 years old.
I ran the bike for 4 years before needing a battery but I may have killed it myself, didn't check it's levels for a month, when I did I found all cells down to 1/2 inch but the bike still started tho slowly.
So about 9 years on one bike battery through N. Illinois winters is doing pretty darn good.
What battery.... Yuasa. That pretty much sold me on that brand.

My last 6 new batteries of bike, car and 2 trucks in 13 years, I now have a near full bottle of EXTRA battery acid on hand. I must say, one new bike Yuasa batteries acid bottle only filled all 6 cells to about 1/8" short of the low line. So it can happen you'll be shorted a little acid from time to time, hopefully not every time.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby Hoosier Jack » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:48 pm

Ok, now if you have extra acid on hand then do you use that or complete the fill with water like was suggested?

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby PastoT » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:59 pm

I've too have always had excess acid supplied with the "you fill" batteries. I'd check the levels of the 5 cells you filled and use the tank and hose to vacuum out any excess above the upper of the two (max/min) fill lines. You should have had to cut the top off the filler neck of the acid bottle - if not then it could have very been less than supplied by the manufacturer.

BTW: I recently bought an Interstate MX free and the acid fill system has 6 individual connected cylinders of acid, sealed with aluminum foil. You just align with the battery cell holes and press down in at one time until the foil is punched. In about 10 minutes each cell is precisely filled and ready to seal and charge. I found it very convenient and easy to prep the battery and it was only $89 with military discount (like 5 or 10%). I expected to pay more and have a single bottle of acid; a nice surprise if I do say so myself.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby halcombrick » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:24 pm

i talked to the manager at walmart and he said that they have been having this problem for a while, they gave me some acid no questions asked, so problem solved.
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby detdrbuzzard » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:01 am

not my wings but my nighthawk 450, I got a battery from wally world for the 450 a few years ago and it didn't have enough acid to fill the battery
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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:22 am

halcombrick wrote:i talked to the manager at walmart and he said that they have been having this problem for a while, they gave me some acid no questions asked, so problem solved.


glad you got more battery acid from them, but ya know, if they knew about this problem and have known about it for some time, wouldn't it make sense they corrected the issue?

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby FM-USA » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:43 am

roadwanderer2 wrote:
halcombrick wrote:i talked to the manager at walmart and he said that they have been having this problem for a while, they gave me some acid no questions asked, so problem solved.


glad you got more battery acid from them, but ya know, if they knew about this problem and have known about it for some time, wouldn't it make sense they corrected the issue?

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:59 am

FM-USA wrote:
roadwanderer2 wrote:
halcombrick wrote:i talked to the manager at walmart and he said that they have been having this problem for a while, they gave me some acid no questions asked, so problem solved.


glad you got more battery acid from them, but ya know, if they knew about this problem and have known about it for some time, wouldn't it make sense they corrected the issue?

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yeah, I guess your right. geeze, what ever happened to "common sense". if you know you have a problem, FIX IT. lol.

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Re: adding acid to new walmart battery

Postby FM-USA » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:09 am

Considering the recent problems WalMart has had the past decade,..
I wonder if they're on there way down or out? :roll:
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Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:32 am

FM-USA wrote:Considering the recent problems WalMart has had the past decade,..
I wonder if they're on there way down or out? :roll:


don't know about up here, but down in south Florida there has been many Wal-Mart's closed down. or were they Kmart's

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