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Moly 60 Paste

Postby jrowley9 » Mon May 18, 2015 11:32 pm



I am getting ready to do some work on my 82 Goldwing 1100. I was reading the DYI article and it said to use Moly 60 paste. Is that even till available? Can the M-77 be used in it's place?



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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:12 am

I bought two tubes of the Honda product off Ebay. I don't know if it is available through Honda dealers or other stores. It was a little expensive, compared to other "greases" but I used it because that's what the manual said to use. There are other products out there that probably work just as well. I'm not familiar with the product you mentioned, but if the molybdenum content is equal to the Honda 60, I'd say it would be a good substitute.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby dingdong » Tue May 19, 2015 7:58 am

The reason for the Moly60 is the high content "60%" of Molybdenum. The M77 seems to meet that requirements.

WHAT THE MANUFACTURER STATES ABOUT THE PRODUCT:
"- Primary Use – Part assembly; running in; as a press-fitting lubricant where high temperature is a factor. - Special Characteristics – Wider and higher operating temperature range than organic oil based pastes; extreme loads; low speeds.
- Physical Form – Black, soap thickened, silicone fluid based paste containing more than 60% MoS2.
- Applications – Lubricating during running-in of gears, splines, journal bearings, cams; reducing torque in tightening threads and bolts; lubricating bearing shafts, O-rings, packings and seals, brake assemblies; press-fitting.
- Temperature Range – Solids from –50 to 750 degrees Fahrenheit (-45 to 399 degrees Celsius); base oil from –40 to 450 degrees Fahrenheit (-40 to 232 degrees Celsius).
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby jrowley9 » Tue May 19, 2015 9:15 am

Thank you. Every site I have found describes the M-77 Honda paste as the Moly 60 replacement and it seems that Honda may not make the M-60 anymore. Could not even find any on e-bay but I am sure it comes and goes.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 19, 2015 9:43 am

The original Honda Moly 60 paste has been discontinued - without notice - by Honda.

The stated replacement is Honda M-77 paste, and from the MSDS, it appears to fit the parameters. It's a high Moly (50-70%) lubricating paste. I would feel safe utilizing it to lubricate my splines.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby jrowley9 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:16 pm

Thank you again. Just wanted to make sure I get the right stuff.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby Fatwing Chris » Tue May 19, 2015 4:50 pm

Loctite 51048 is supposed to be the equivalent of Moly 60 although I haven't tried it.I'm still working on a tube of Moly 60 I've had for quite a while.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby rockford75 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:28 pm

jrowley9 wrote:I am getting ready to do some work on my 82 Goldwing 1100. I was reading the DYI article and it said to use Moly 60 paste. Is that even till available? Can the M-77 be used in it's place?


I bought 2 tubes off ebay for $14 each. Iam in Alberta Canada I walked in my local Honda Shop they sell moly 60@ @$23 a tube. Pricey but worth it.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby jrowley9 » Fri May 22, 2015 5:36 pm

Thank you, I ended up getting the M-77 which seems to be the acceptable replacement. I was a bit shocked at the price for a 3 oz tube but I am told it will last for some time.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby rockford75 » Fri May 22, 2015 8:04 pm

jrowley9 wrote:Thank you, I ended up getting the M-77 which seems to be the acceptable replacement. I was a bit shocked at the price for a 3 oz tube but I am told it will last for some time.


I heard about that paste. Supposed to be a good replacement. Let me know how it works.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby triwing » Fri May 22, 2015 8:39 pm

Have used moly grease from a low price auto store, & was more than other stuff they had. Seemed to work well, has a different smell. Had a good grade of a name brand that had been using for years from before, saw no real difference as far as both kept splines & all in the same shape as when it was last apart for tires replacement, still plenty of fresh grease . Most used old wings I've bought are dry in the drive splines, & drive flange stuck is in the wheel, with NO FRESH grease any where, with the old grease dried up. Not enough grease from the factory to suite me, the first time I changed my tires on my 91 that was bought NEW. Many shops don't use any when they do a tire change, don't clean wheels where the tires bead seats, no new valve stems, & the tires leak. Myself, mount, balance, own tires, clean rims, new valve stems, & my tires don't leak, unless something happens to damage them. Still have 3/4 of a 3lb coffee can of name brand grease left from years ago, still looks, smells, & works great, so will continue to use it.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby harvey01 » Sat May 23, 2015 10:40 am

I just ordered a tube of Honda Moly 60 paste from Amazon for $11.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby redial » Sat May 23, 2015 9:41 pm

On Fleabay, it is advertised here for AU$41.75, plus AU$21.00 postage, from the UK, but it is listed as "Moly 60 / M77" so it sounds like it is having it each way.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby Old Fogey » Sun May 31, 2015 7:54 pm

M77, made by Dow Corning, is NOT the same as the Honda Moly60 PASTE. It's an assembly lube, commonly used to stop brake pad squealing.
It's lithium based, as against silicone, the temp. rating for the M77 is 450 deg. The temp rating for Moly 60 is 750 deg. in a sliding application.

If you can't get the Honda paste, why not try this with even higher Moly content @ 73%:

http://guarddogmoly.com/product/gd-570- ... antiseize/
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby newday777 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:13 am

I've long been using the Loctite Moly Paste with superior results, no drips as happens with any grease that will end up in leaking down onto the rim and tire on bikes that have had grease used in place of the Honda or Loctite Moly Paste, especially in high heat areas like the south western states where temps regularly top out over 105°- 120 + degrees F, add heat buildup in an enclosed shed during storage periods, some will see 140°- 150° degrees in sheds and most Moly Grease and other grease products slump and leak out below.
I've had to buy the Loctite Moly Paste on line, it comes in an 8 oz tub with an application brush attached to the screw on lid, compared to Honda's 3 oz tube which was @$9 at the time when it was stocked at the dealers. Cost on line for the Loctite Moly Paste was @ $30 with shipping, it's been a few years since I ordered any as I have @1/2 a tub left.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:17 am

The loctite moly paste is very good.

I have the same jar (in fact two of them). And I know they will last me for a very very long time.
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby Gallan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:31 am

Honda 08734-0001 Moly 60 at Amazon.com for $12.08. Now to see if it shows up.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby tom84std » Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:06 pm

I asked at the Honda shop and he showed me the Moly 60 replacement and the price. $22 for a small tube. I told him that I've used Mobil 1 bearing grease for fifteen years with good luck. He said it wouldn't hurt a thing to keep right on using it. I left the Honda product right where I found it.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:08 pm

tom84std wrote:I asked at the Honda shop and he showed me the Moly 60 replacement and the price. $22 for a small tube. I told him that I've used Mobil 1 bearing grease for fifteen years with good luck. He said it wouldn't hurt a thing to keep right on using it. I left the Honda product right where I found it.


is the Mobil 1 bearing grease your using synthetic?

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby tom84std » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:24 pm

The stuff I've been using is synthetic. 1 pound can. I've been using it long before I even knew there was a special spline grease made by Honda. Like I say I've been using the stuff for about fifteen years now and never had any noticeable wear on the splines. Keep in mind though I'm into the wheel about three times a year for one thing or another. With the bike on the stand and a pan under the drive, I spray carburetor cleaner on the spline. Agitate with a brush and rinse with another shot of the carb cleaner. Repeat to insure it's totally clean. I do the same thing to the wheel spline too. Wipe clean and dry with a cloth and apply grease, making sure it's getting into the cracks and grooves. Enough, but not enough to squeeze out and sling around.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:43 pm

sounds good to me. I've done some checking and that Honda moly paste isn't cheap especially for that small tube. i did however find about 8 of the same Honda paste on eBay from between 20-38 bucks a tube, so i guess i do have a couple of choices....get it from eBay or go to my local auto parts store and get the mobile 1 synthetic bearing grease and break down the final drive 2 to 4 times a year to repack it.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby redial » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:56 pm

Or the other choice maybe to get some Loctite moly, and only have to pull it down once a year at tyre changing time ;)
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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:26 pm

yeah, well, that's a possibility too.

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:46 pm

Go the easy route

Buy the proper grease - then you don't have to worry about anything until you need to change a tyre. :)

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Re: Moly 60 Paste

Postby harvey01 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:37 pm

Well I ordered the Moly60 but they shipped the M77. I hope it is better. Certainly easier to carry some when travelling.


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