Beads to balance tires


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Beads to balance tires

Postby Keef » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:25 am



I like to hear from you all that use tire beads in your tires. I am fixing to change my tires and wondering to use them or not!
My main question is: Do you still get your tires balanced at a shop? Do you put them in the tire before or after getting them balanced?
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Re: Beads to balance tires

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby NVSB4 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:32 am

spiralout wrote:Lots of threads on this already

As spialout says, there are lots of discussion threads, but primarily about which beads people prefer.

Keef wrote:I like to hear from you all that use tire beads in your tires. I am fixing to change my tires and wondering to use them or not! My main question is: Do you still get your tires balanced at a shop? Do you put them in the tire before or after getting them balanced?

I think everyone agrees that some sort of tire balancing media are a better way to go than weights.
Saying that, you don't get your tires balanced, just insert your beads.
If the shop that's putting on the tire won't do it, you can do it yourself.
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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby robb » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:29 pm

Been using Airsoft pellets for years with excellent results. Since I change my own tires they are installed before the beads are sealed. Purchased at any Walmart. Too big to enter by stem but have the same affect on balancing. They are run in all my vehicles and though they are plastic will not deteriorate even after 60k of use.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Crosman-Airso ... t/15103405

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby mrtwowheel » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:51 pm

I've been using copper coated BB's. The copper wears off but the BB's don't rust. I use the same weight recommended for the tire size by the bead manufacturers.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby golden highway » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:10 pm

Wow another oil, tires....I mean beads thread. I guess this is different then oil and tires since when it comes to balancing beads almost everyone agrees they work.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby spiralout » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:54 pm

golden highway wrote:Wow another oil, tires....I mean beads thread...

I tried to nip it in the bud ;)

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby Keef » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:18 pm

Wow!!!!!

A lot of threads, BUT only one person answered my question. (Do you still get your tires balanced at the shop using beads)....

Thanks NVSB4 for the answer!!!!

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby suvcw04 » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:35 pm

Keef wrote:Wow!!!!!

A lot of threads, BUT only one person answered my question. (Do you still get your tires balanced at the shop using beads)....

Thanks NVSB4 for the answer!!!!


It won't hurt, but, unless you have a grossly out of balance tire, you don't need to. If beads alone won't take care of the balance, there is something else going on.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:55 pm

Keef wrote:Wow!!!!!

A lot of threads, BUT only one person answered my question. (Do you still get your tires balanced at the shop using beads)....

Thanks NVSB4 for the answer!!!!


NO. You cannot spin balance tires that contain beads. They will NEVER balance correctly. The beads balance the tires by moving around as the tire interacts with the road. When a tire is spin balanced, there is no road against the tire, and the beads will not operate correctly. When they add a weight to the tire, the point of imbalance indicated by the spin balancer machine will actually move. They add more weights to correct that imbalance, and it stays imbalanced, but again the point of imbalance once again moves.

If you are running beads, you pull the weights off the wheels, and don't attempt to get them balanced at a shop.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby suvcw04 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:10 pm

suvcw04 wrote:
Keef wrote:Wow!!!!!

A lot of threads, BUT only one person answered my question. (Do you still get your tires balanced at the shop using beads)....

Thanks NVSB4 for the answer!!!!


It won't hurt, but, unless you have a grossly out of balance tire, you don't need to. If beads alone won't take care of the balance, there is something else going on.


I just noticed my original answer did not go far enough. If your tire has been balanced WITHOUT beads, you can pull the weights, or leave them. Trying to balance a tire that beads in it is like a dog chasing it's own tail.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby tktrnr » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:26 pm

4 sets of tires with Dyna beads only so far. Don't waste your time/money on adding more weights. The idea is to have as little weight added as possible.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby robb » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:59 am

I just noticed my original answer did not go far enough. If your tire has been balanced WITHOUT beads, you can pull the weights, or leave them. Trying to balance a tire that beads in it is like a dog chasing it's own tail.


It tire has wights, leave them on. Beads will keep the tire in balance as it wears. Why guess when you can know it's right.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby bobberwing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:09 pm

I have used dyna beads on a couple of bikes including gl1200 and 1800 but went back to weights. call me old fashion just seems like less hassle espesially if you spill them on garage floor.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby minimac » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:07 pm

They're supposed to go inside the tire, not on the floor! :D

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby bobberwing » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:52 pm

Next time I will read the instructions more better. At least my garage floor is now balanced!

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby bntyhntr6975 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:55 pm

When I bought my '95 Aspy, it had dyna beads in the front tire. Tire was cupped pretty bad so I was replacing it. What a mess those beads made when unmounting tire! They might work, but I'll stick with Ride On. Been using it in my VTX for awhile now, and like it, so thats what I have in the Aspy now.

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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby Dogsled » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:39 pm

When I got my wing I had a long time bike tireman put new rubber on. I got some new dunlop elite 3's and took it all up to him. There was no shimmy or issues with the stuff I took to him and the bike rode fine. He took the old rubber off and used a shop balancer on the rims. He found both wheels to need a little weight (before the rubber).....he popped on the few needed ounces and said it was something I would have never felt, but it was balanced. He put the new rubber on and it was spot on being balanced.
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Re: Beads to balance tires

Postby Keef » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:21 pm

Thanks all for the good answer's...............




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