MOTOR OIL


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MOTOR OIL

Postby GRAPEAPE94 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:33 pm



I know that many people use ROTELLA in their wings but, which version? I work part-time at an auto parts store (O'REILLY'S) and as I get a discount I might as well get my oil there as I already get my oil filter (WIX) there. I change my oil every 3,000 miles and am coming up on my 64th oil change. That's 192,00 miles on my '06. Not bad.



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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby ct1500 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:22 am

Why change now? I would stay with the oil that got you to 192k.
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby keithg64 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:36 am

If you use honda oil I would stick with that. If you are using regular Dino oil, use the rotella in the white bottle.
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby CrystalPistol » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:47 pm

Rotella 15W-40 is what they are using generally, and then there are those like me using Chevron Delo 400LE 15W-40.

For sure, improved shifting action.
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:17 pm

+1 on the Dello 400LE 8-)
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby FM-USA » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:17 am

Ditto on Delo

After a couple K miles I'll add an ounce or two of Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Smooths out shifting gears.
Been using Lucas for almost 100K miles and still on the OEM clutch.
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby CrystalPistol » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:53 pm

FM-USA wrote:Ditto on Delo

After a couple K miles I'll add an ounce or two of Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Smooths out shifting gears.
Been using Lucas for almost 100K miles and still on the OEM clutch.


I might try that ...... no moly in Lucas.
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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby FM-USA » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:23 pm

CrystalPistol wrote:
FM-USA wrote:Ditto on Delo

After a couple K miles I'll add an ounce or two of Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Smooths out shifting gears.
Been using Lucas for almost 100K miles and still on the OEM clutch.


I might try that ...... no moly in Lucas.

YEP, no Moly or Betty-Lou, Margie, Carbonaro, Cintella or Tricky-Dicky's.
Bottle and there website says can be 60% of the total oil volume, tho I wouldn't go that on a Wing. Little dab will do'ya.
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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby mikelens » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:23 am

FM-USA wrote:
CrystalPistol wrote:
FM-USA wrote:Ditto on Delo

After a couple K miles I'll add an ounce or two of Lucas Oil Stabilizer. Smooths out shifting gears.
Been using Lucas for almost 100K miles and still on the OEM clutch.


I might try that ...... no moly in Lucas.

YEP, no Moly or Betty-Lou, Margie, Carbonaro, Cintella or Tricky-Dicky's.
Bottle and there website says can be 60% of the total oil volume, tho I wouldn't go that on a Wing. Little dab will do'ya.
:D

Lucas bottle says: For wet clutch motorcycles do not exceed 10% of oil volume.

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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby FM-USA » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:38 pm

mikelens wrote:
FM-USA wrote:
CrystalPistol wrote:
I might try that ...... no moly in Lucas.

YEP, no Moly or Betty-Lou, Margie, Carbonaro, Cintella or Tricky-Dicky's.
Bottle and there website says can be 60% of the total oil volume, tho I wouldn't go that on a Wing. Little dab will do'ya.
:D

Lucas bottle says: For wet clutch motorcycles do not exceed 10% of oil volume.

YUP, 10% is more than a "LITTLE DAB WILL DO'YA".
I also read on a Kaw site that in their racing, they use over 50% mix. Kaw's must have better clutch plates. :(
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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby Bluewaterhooker0 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:00 pm

FM-USA wrote:
mikelens wrote:
FM-USA wrote:YEP, no Moly or Betty-Lou, Margie, Carbonaro, Cintella or Tricky-Dicky's.
Bottle and there website says can be 60% of the total oil volume, tho I wouldn't go that on a Wing. Little dab will do'ya.
:D

Lucas bottle says: For wet clutch motorcycles do not exceed 10% of oil volume.

YUP, 10% is more than a "LITTLE DAB WILL DO'YA".
I also read on a Kaw site that in their racing, they use over 50% mix. Kaw's must have better clutch plates. :(


May also be that as racing bikes, if they burn up a clutch every race, no big deal. They rebuild the engine after every race. I used that stuff in a truck that had BAD oil pressure issues. I kept it running for an additional 2 years (at 220,00 miles) with Lucas Oil Treatment. BUT, I would never put it in a properly running Goldwing. That stuff pours like molasses. I can't even imagine what "W" weight it would be rated as. Probably in the 100's. If you are using a good to great quality oil, and changing it on a regular basis, there is no need for any additives. That, according to many oil sites i have read, one of which I place much stock in.

I use Mobil1 10W40 Motorcycle Oil, but that's me. I've seen no statement from the OP that he has any particular problem with the bike, or the oil he's using. I'm with CT1500.....Dance with the one you brought, and the one that brought you to 192K miles. Must be good stuff ! And forget any additives.

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Re: MOTOR OIL

Postby FM-USA » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:16 pm

Quite true those racing engines can burn up a clutch per race but the clutch still needs to not slip while in use. In that respect there clutches are not slipping using a high percentage of Lucas Oil Conditioner (LOC).
I cook with molasses, LOC is not thick as molasses. Quite possible you're pouring LOC outside in a cooler environment? Yup, that make it pour like molasses.

Our Wings are one of the heaviest in weight out there and they also have the most robust of transmissions. Transmission gears need a thicker oil due to the shearing effect the gears have on oil. Motor oil wasn't made for that, and quite simply, can not withstand that for very long. When nearing the recommended oil change, for they do tend to rattle a bit. As for me I notice when my oil needs attention is in gear shifts, it becomes a bit stiffer or some call it shift drag. But I am quite in tune with my oils acids and it's viscosity "as the miles grow", so I know when my oil needs a little boost. That's little as in one or two ounces, not 10% or 50% of said oil mix as some are talking about above.

Another info tidbit.
I haul a rather heavy trailer now and then. Anywhere from a light 600 pounds to (several times) 1300 pounds. On special occasions a half dozen times 1400 to 1500 pounds.... and I am still on my OEM clutch nearing 200K... with LOC.
Now "IF" LOC was so bad for wet clutches, would you not think I would have had some sort of clutch slippage long-LONG ago?
Something I've noticed with oils and tires, there are ALWAYS a small handful of nay-sayers out there passing around "scare tactics". The sad thing about that is, the masses begin to believe THOSE FEW then the MANY who have had no ill symptoms. Those nay-sayers are like a virus, difficult to get rid of with positive proven facts. :shock:

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"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.


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