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Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:40 pm



I came up with this idea so nobody can steal my trailer and I can leave it at a campsite ect. I inserted a ball in the 4x4 so it will just spin if someone trys to swipe it, you will need a pad lock. Here's a photo of my handmade trailer and stand..


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Re: Trailer idea

Postby MJSantos » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:40 pm

Another idea to cut down on the extra weight how about just using an old ball and cut the threads off. Put a bicyle kick stand on the trailer tongue to hold it up.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:35 pm

Is the trailer made of plywood? What does it weigh?

I like the ball and 4x4 idea!

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby keithg64 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:57 pm

That's a good idea, I put a locking pin on the ball lock and use a kick stand syle stand.
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:25 pm

keithg64 wrote:That's a good idea, I put a locking pin on the ball lock and use a kick stand syle stand.

I suppose if someone wanted a trailer they could just bring bolt cutters..I have the 4x4 on the tongue because I could sleep in it when my wife kicks me out of the house, I tried the poor bike kick stand and it collapsed on me, right when I fell to sleep I hit my head and everything.. :lol:
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:41 pm

WingAdmin wrote:Is the trailer made of plywood? What does it weigh?

I like the ball and 4x4 idea!

It's made of LP siding 1/2"[house type siding sheets] , the trailer weight without wood is 93 lbs. + about 50lbs for wood or so .. pulls around pretty easy though, yes 12" wheels on it
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:49 pm

MJSantos wrote:Another idea to cut down on the extra weight how about just using an old ball and cut the threads off. Put a bicyle kick stand on the trailer tongue to hold it up.

Is having a trailer the best or what? I enjoy it a lot..
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:52 pm

keithg64 wrote:That's a good idea, I put a locking pin on the ball lock and use a kick stand syle stand.

If you are using a bike kick stand then that means it's homemade too, right? I had a Sears Cartop carrier type on my other trailer and also used the bike stand..Works good too..I also made my own stand here take a look...
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby Britanicus » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:13 am

I cannot tell from the pictures. Are you guys using a hitch that swivels in case of trailer tip-over?

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:35 am

No.. I don't have the swivel type just the plain old ball type, what in the World is a Tip Over...?? :lol: I do not know of such a thing nor do I wish to know :lol: .. I do carry a extra clutch cable now...I bet other's use them though..I'm sure their good if the bike falls.. :D Click on the photo and it will get larger I'm pretty sure..

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby Britanicus » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:58 pm

I saw a bike a couple years in the ditch because, as we all know, some dumb f::ker pulled in behind him and hit his trailer tipping it over and that draged the bike down. The guys was a mess. My partner was telling me about a swivel coupler that allows the trailer to tip over without dragging the bike down.

I have a hitch on the bike and will prolly make a small trailer like what you have but I am looking into the swivel coupler.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:36 pm

The swivel couplers look something like this.

I read this article online about swivel hitches:


Motorcycle riders who tow touring trailers often question if they should spend the extra money and install a swivel hitch on their trailer. This is an interesting question. Some riders say that a swivel hitch is not necessary and yet others would never tow a trailer without one.

The riders who say they are not necessary are basing their opinion on the fact that with a standard Fulton type coupler (which is the most popular type) the coupler will rotate left and right on the hitch ball about 35 to 40 degrees. Very seldom would a motorcycle (that’s towing a trailer) lean that far over in a curve. Because of this , they say a swivel hitch is not necessary for towing a trailer in normal riding conditions.

The riders who would not tow a trailer without a swivel hitch say the big advantage of installing one comes in to play, not for riding and towing, but for those rare occasions when a rider may accidentally drop his or her motorcycle or lay it over in a crash. In either one of these instances, the coupler would need to rotate much more than 35 to 40 degrees. Without a swivel hitch, the coupler could not rotate far enough, which means something is going to bend or break, whether it’s the motorcycle frame where the hitch is attached, the hitch itself, or the trailer tongue. The installation of a swivel hitch would prevent damage to any of these items due to over rotation.

So the question riders need to ask themselves when considering whether to install a swivel hitch on their trailer, is not ” will it affect my riding and towing”, but the question should be ” is it possible that I might drop my motorcycle or lay it over someday and have to do all the necessary repairs”. The answer to this question should be the same answer as to whether to install a swivel hitch or not.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:44 pm

I will gently lay over the bike on the engine guard while hooked up to the trailer and see if it clears or if it binds , it probably won't clear but I never tried it.....
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Re: Trailer idea

Postby Britanicus » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:53 pm

Just to clarify, the idea of the swivel coupler to to protect you from being dragged over when the trailer tips.

No matter how the trailer tips or the likelyhood of it happening.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:37 pm

I haven't built a trailer...yet. But I do have a hitch up in my garage attic waiting to be installed, and when I do one day build a trailer....I think I will put a swivel hitch on it.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:41 pm

Britanicus wrote:Just to clarify, the idea of the swivel coupler to to protect you from being dragged over when the trailer tips.

No matter how the trailer tips or the likelyhood of it happening.

Yep, I'm buying one thanks..

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:20 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I haven't built a trailer...yet. But I do have a hitch up in my garage attic waiting to be installed, and when I do one day build a trailer....I think I will put a swivel hitch on it.

Here is a nice looking little trailer with the box and all, that Harbor Freight carries..

http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive ... 66771.html

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby vtxcandyred » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:45 pm

I know from experience that a typical ball receiver will not cause an accident.
We were clinbing an extaordinarily steep stone driveway with a sharp wall on one side and a drop off on the other. The rear tire lost traction and started spinning and I lost control. Over the side it went. Luckily a small tree stopped it from going to the bottom. The day before we were making a u-turn in a side view cut out on the Blue Ridge Parkway. It was all paved but on a precarious angle to the right and down. I was trying to turn on an uphill to the left while the roadway was falling off to the left and down. If I had just hit the throttle it would have been a piece of cake. Thats why I tried to keep the motion the next day. Hind sight. In the foreground of the first picture you can see a six or eight inch corrugated drain pipe we narrowly missed and in the second picture at the bottom you can see the running water. After this we had about a mile climb to the top to get to the cabin. The wrecker driver came. It was Sunday July fourth. We got it out with ONLY a broken left mirror and the windshield. We finished our vacation and rode home. We live outside Toledo and were in Ashville NC. Had it fixed there ofcourse.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:44 pm

Wow. I like a good adventure but this sounds like a bit of bad luck, gravel roads and bikes are not a good mix, add a trailer and it's right down dangerous..Did you jump off or ride it down, I would have yelled all the way down ha ha :o Glad you are still with us today to tell the story, it's kinda funny now.. :lol: Were you hurt, what about your passenger?

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby vtxcandyred » Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:17 pm

littlebeaver wrote:Wow. I like a good adventure but this sounds like a bit of bad luck, gravel roads and bikes are not a good mix, add a trailer and it's right down dangerous..Did you jump off or ride it down, I would have yelled all the way down ha ha :o Glad you are still with us today to tell the story, it's kinda funny now.. :lol: Were you hurt, what about your passenger?

[color=#FF0000We stayed on until I knew it was not recoverable. I told the wife we needed to bail and I pushed against the top of the windshield. The bike was going over the edge so the top was right there. It snapped right at the base. I kind of rolled to the right and grabbed the wfe and took her with me. We kind of stopped right there stuck in the sand. The bike had stopped but I did'nt know what the deal was so I pushed her up to the road surface and told her to get away from the edge. I got up there and sat down and looked at the bike. It was in the position you see stopped by a little tree about the size of my forearm. Not big. I banged up my left shin pretty bad. It ended up bruised all the way down to the bottom of my foot. The wife was a bit banged up but not bad. She waited until we got home. She was standing just outside the front door with our son. She had a mlk crate sitting there she had been using to do some gardening. She went to step over it and caught her foot. She never regained her footing and went to the ground. She banged up the right side of her face just above and below her eye and bruised her breast pretty bad. If she would have called the cops and said I hit her, I'd still be in jail. She was banged up that bad. Between the accidents and the fall at the house. ][/color]

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:33 am

You call this a vacation, it's more like going to war, You're over there licking your wounds when you guys should be in the bedroom and stuff :lol: I'm not laughing at you but hopefully with you.. you guys went thru hell, it sounds like..Your poor wife, sitting on the back of a bike with this goofy dude that likes to run his bike and trailer over cliffs and stuff, that poor women, what else have you put this poor nice lady through..My Word Man.. setting milk crates in the way for her to trip on and smash her pretty face :lol: Hey Thanks for a great story I absolutely loved it.. I guess the bedroom was kinda painful, Hey I have a couple of questions for you, I use the hoppy powered converter to power my trailer lights, what type do you have? And do you have a swivel hitch or your stock type. What's your opinion on the swivel..? I've been trailering for many years without one..

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby vtxcandyred » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:23 pm

Hey I have a couple of questions for you, I use the hoppy powered converter to power my trailer lights, what type do you have? And do you have a swivel hitch or your stock type. What's your opinion on the swivel..? I've been trailering for many years without one..

I have a powered converter inside the right saddlebag. Not sure of the brand. I have the standard ball hitch. Only kind I've ever used.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby canon » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:24 pm

nice idea. Never thought of such a simple idea!

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby BlueThunder » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:09 am

A swivel coupler is like insurance... you hope you don't need it until you actually do.
Here is what one looks like:


The Harbor Freight motorcycle pull behind trailer needs some modifications to make it work properly. Make sure you read the reviews.

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Re: Trailer idea

Postby vtxcandyred » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:18 pm

BlueThunder wrote:A swivel coupler is like insurance... you hope you don't need it until you actually do.
Here is what one looks like:


The Harbor Freight motorcycle pull behind trailer needs some modifications to make it work properly. Make sure you read the reviews.

Don't really know why you would need one. Looking at my pictures above when it went over an embankment you can see all is well and we rode the bike for the rest of our vacation and still ride it with no problems. Two pennies.




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