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Avon Venom report. Thanks Admin.

Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:51 am



Thanks to Admin and his love affair with Avon Venom tires I put a new set on and just returned from a 3500 mile ride, 2 up with trailer, to Washington DC. I have only good things to report. We rode in the rain a good portion of the trip including the BRP (storms every 15 to 20 miles) as well as Skyline drive. They performed extremely well under all conditions and were so very quiet. I removed a set of E3s that still had lots of miles left but I just got fed up with the noise and cupping. Thought you guys, looking to get new rubber, might like a first hand report on the Venoms. Did I say they were quiet?

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Postby littlebeaver » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:28 pm

Sir did you also use the Dyna Beads? Did the wife notice it at all...? Did the twister affect you guys in anyway?

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Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:55 pm

Yes I used Dyna beads as well as a traditional balance. Yes the wife noticed the difference but mostly from me complaining. :lol:


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Postby cbx4evr » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:17 pm

I am paddling the same boat. Changed my front from an E3 last fall and the rear this past week. I certainly am not missing the howling noise. Didn't realize how badly cupped the rear was until I had it off.

So far loving the Venoms. We leave on a trip Tuesday so we'll really get a feel for them over the next two weeks.
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Postby bstig60 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:44 pm

I just returned from a 2500 mile trip thru parts of 6 states. Some freeway riding at high speed (80+) and secondary roads at lower speeds with some mountain roads thrown in for good measure. I rode some in the rain, but mostly dry roads. The Venoms were near new and performed well in all conditions. Minimal signs of wear after the trip. The tires ran quiet with the exception of cornering. I did notice some tire noise in the corners.
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Postby jtstevenson » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:36 pm

I know I'm probably going to open up a huge subject, but I need to know what is out there. I bought my first wing in 2011; a 1998 1500SE. It had 7134 miles on it with original tires. They were gone at 8500 miles and the recommendation was Dunlop E3's. At 18,972 miles I have only gotten 10,460 miles out of them. I ride year-round and if it is not pouring when I leave the house, I'm on the bike. I live in western NC so most of my riding is less than straight; other than a few road trips down the interstate.
Now I'm hearing bad reports about the E3's. I've read hurrays for Michelin Pilot GT on wings, and folks said they are much better than E3's. And now the same for Avon Venoms. By the way, which model of Venoms are being discussed here? I guess I am just shocked by how often it looks like I'm going to be buying tires. :o
I would appreciate some advice as to which ones, why, and why not of brands. Thanks.

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Postby bstig60 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:46 pm

My bike had Avon Venom's on it when I bought the bike. The only had a few hundred miles on them. I have put a little more than 4000 miles on the bike since I bought about a month ago and the rear tire is more than half worn out. At this rate, I may get 7500 out of the rear tire and for the price of $200 plus for the rear tire I am not pleased with the Avon at all. If I am going to be changing rear tires 3 or 4 times per year, I will find something much cheaper. I have gotten good wear using Metzler's ME880 series on other bikes, but they are not as heavy as the GW. I have heard some talk about someone using Shinko's. I have used them and Kenda's in the past on my cruiser and dual sport with good performance and wear.
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Postby jtstevenson » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:01 pm

Thanks for the information.

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Postby 86GW1200 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:02 pm

Not sure where the cupping and short tire life is about? My '86 Aspencade got just over 20,000 miles out of my last set....no cupping. I replaced them with another set in January of this year....I ride about 10,000 miles a year, rain or shine. Local and highway. Bike now has about 79,000 miles. I am 6'3" and about 265 pounds. I ride 2 up sometimes. Longest trip so far was to Savannah Ga....They do make a bit of noise as they wear down...but with the wind and radio it is not bad.

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Postby cbx4evr » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:19 pm

I'm just back from my vacation and have to say the Venoms were great. It does look like they did wear some though but it was hot, the bike was fully loaded and some of the road surfaces were what seemed to me, abrasive. There are so many factors to tire life. I don't think that I will get the 33,000km that my E3 gave me but at least these Venom's don't howl every time you lean it over.

So far I'm satisfied. We'll see how they do in the long term.

One thing I won't do is use a Shinko or a Kenda on my GoldWing. I just don't think they are there yet. There may come a day but not now. I too have usedShinko and Kendas on my KLR 650 and they were fine for that application. The Kenda is actually my tire of choice after trying a few.
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Postby bstig60 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:09 pm

My Avons howl when I lean the bike over. But at this point, I don't know if its the front or the rear. My bike had Avon's on it when I bought it. The front was a Venom but after looking closer, the rear tire is an Avon ARRO II V36. Seems it is a radial Sport Bike tire and an old one at that. The tire was new. But I think that explains the wear issue I have. I will try an Avon Venom on the rear when I replace it later this year and see how it does.
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Postby cbx4evr » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:46 am

I Googled "Avon ARRO II V36" because I'm curious. The only thing that came up tire related was a link to this thread. What is the date on that tire? I think if it were me I would just change it now. A sport bike tire isn't designed for the weight of a GoldWing. Is the size even correct?
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Postby bstig60 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:23 am

The tire is the correct size and has the correct load carrying capacity. The markings on the tire are Avon AZ ARO II AV36; size is 160/80ZR16 V280 ..... I will have to look at the tire date, but I recall it is an older tire, but was new when it was installed.
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Postby GRAPEAPE94 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:09 pm

I don't know. I have been running E-3s on my '06 since new (except when Dunlop was on strike, then Bridgestones) and have not experienced any of the problems that others mention. I like the way that they perform both in the wet and dry, get good wear considering how I ride (aggressive) at about 18000 miles before having to change and maybe I am deaf but I am not getting the noise that others mention.

What with Traxion front and rear, a fork brace and Torque Loops my 86000 mile wing is just where I like it. I can get out on the highway , set the cruise, get my XM radio on the channel I like (5) and just go all day long.

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Postby john.woodgate » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:17 pm

Guys, I am over the pond in the UK so maybe it is just unfamiliar terms or different names for familiar terms, but what is cupping? For that matter what are dyna-beads?

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Postby WingAdmin » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:19 pm

john.woodgate wrote:Guys, I am over the pond in the UK so maybe it is just unfamiliar terms or different names for familiar terms, but what is cupping? For that matter what are dyna-beads?


Cupping is a scallop shaped wear phenomenon that happens (mostly) to front tires. It can be caused by many things - poor tire design, underinflation, among other things. It causes a loud buzzing or vibration when leaning in turns.

Dyna Beads - read about them here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1662




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