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GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:18 pm



Goldwingdocs user peppilepew came up with an idea for a product that solves a long standing problem - the GL1500 shifter.

The GL1500 shifter shaft comes out of the transmission, poking through an oil seal that keeps the oil inside the engine. From there it connects to a lever which offsets it for about an inch, where it connects to another shaft, which pokes out for about another five or six inches. At the end of this long shaft is where the shifter arm actually connects, and that's what you step on. A horrible design!

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As you would expect, the end result is that all the leverage on the shifter shaft that occurs from people stomping on the shifter eventually wears out the oil seal - and sometimes the bearings inside the transmission. The oil seal is a bear to change, but the bearings require engine removal and splitting the case - a very costly and time-consuming procedure.

peppilepew came up with a better way: a pivoting brace that fastens to the end of the shift shaft, right next to the shifter arm, that supports the far end. This takes all the strain off the shaft, and allows the shifter to move only in the way it is supposed to move. This is what he came up with:

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Carved precisely out of a solid aluminum billet with a CNC machine, this very precisely designed and manufactured item does exactly what it is designed to do. The pivot itself has a teflon-coated bushing inserted into it, for many years of problem-free shifting. How well does it work?





As you can see, it works amazingly well. Installation took me about 90 minutes, and that was including stopping along the way to take pictures. A small bit of trimming is required to the exhaust heat shield, I cover this in my How To install article. Unfortunately for me, I discovered along the way that it was too late for me - the oil seal on my shifter has already given up the ghost:

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See How to replace your GL1500 shifter oil seal for more on this process.

The unit is made of extremely high quality materials, and high quality fasteners are included. The only issue I had was fastening the pinch bolt on the shift shaft, as the exhaust gets in the way. More about this in my How To article. Perhaps having the pinch bolt insert from the other side would fix this.

**Note: The new version of the brace now being sold has made this change, so that the pinch bolt comes in from the right instead of the left.

The patent-pending GL1500 shifter brace gets two thumbs up from me - I wish I had it years ago!

The shifter brace will be available directly from peppilepew (website coming shortly), this web site, and are already available from Cyclemax.


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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby dingdong » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:18 am

Funny you should mention the pinch bolt. That is the first thing I noticed when I saw the finished product installed. Wondered if it would have more clearance on the other side.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:44 am

dingdong wrote:Funny you should mention the pinch bolt. That is the first thing I noticed when I saw the finished product installed. Wondered if it would have more clearance on the other side.


I tried fitting it that way just to see what the clearance would be like, and it appeared like it would fit. Of course, the opposite side of the pinch area would have to be tapped instead, and the flat would have to be, well, flattened, to give the head of the bolt enough friction to butt up against.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby rottiman » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:19 pm

Well, got mine on this afternoon. I had already changed the seal while doing a whole lot of other off-season service and had wide open access to the whole area. Gotta say this item is a first-class job. It installed exactly as the enclosed instructions indicated. Took about 20 minutes to install and let me tell you the difference is night and day. The shifter now is precise and crisp. Gotta rate this one *****. I highly recommend this to all 1500 owners. :) ;)
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby Wingsconsin » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:22 pm

rottiman wrote:Well, got mine on this afternoon. I had already changed the seal while doing a whole lot of other off-season service and had wide open access to the whole area. Gotta say this item is a first-class job. It installed exactly as the enclosed instructions indicated. Took about 20 minutes to install and let me tell you the difference is night and day. The shifter now is precise and crisp. Gotta rate this one *****. I highly recommend this to all 1500 owners. :) ;)


Can you describe the changing the seal process for those of us who have yet to do it... :?
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby cbx4evr » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:23 pm

Replacing the seal itself isn't too difficult. The most work will be to get everything removed so you can access it.

Once you have done that you can punch a small hole in the seal and drive in a screw which you can then pull on to remove the seal from the housing. Once removed you just carefully press in the new seal. Put something around the splined end of the shaft so you don't damage the seal sliding it on the shaft.

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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:25 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:
rottiman wrote:Well, got mine on this afternoon. I had already changed the seal while doing a whole lot of other off-season service and had wide open access to the whole area. Gotta say this item is a first-class job. It installed exactly as the enclosed instructions indicated. Took about 20 minutes to install and let me tell you the difference is night and day. The shifter now is precise and crisp. Gotta rate this one *****. I highly recommend this to all 1500 owners. :) ;)


Can you describe the changing the seal process for those of us who have yet to do it... :?


Right here: How to replace your GL1500 shifter oil seal
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby wpgfire » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:25 am

OK. Now that I've ordered mine, I can tell you that Cyclemax has 'em on sale for $99 + shipping ($8) until Monday (Dec 2/13). Then they go back to $115 + shipping. Looks like a good product. If I decide to keep my Valk I may just have to purchase another.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace QUESTION

Postby TrikeBob » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:36 pm

I use a toe/heel shifter. Will the brace work with that type shifter?
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby gordonv » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:34 pm

wpgfire wrote:If I decide to keep my Valk I may just have to purchase another.



That is my first question, would this work on a Valkyrie? I don't know for sure, but the GW and Valk mount their crash guards differently. But I would think that the GL1500 motor case would have the same mounting points.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby tblank » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:49 pm

Will this work on an '85 1200 interstate? I've got a heel and toe shifter that is hard for me to get used to with floorboards. Every other bike I've had used pegs. Not much wiggle room with case savers.
Also, I looked in Cyclemax but couldn't find the shifter.
Thanks heaps for the oil seal replacement explanation.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:26 pm

tblank wrote:Will this work on an '85 1200 interstate? I've got a heel and toe shifter that is hard for me to get used to with floorboards. Every other bike I've had used pegs. Not much wiggle room with case savers.
Also, I looked in Cyclemax but couldn't find the shifter.
Thanks heaps for the oil seal replacement explanation.


No, the GL1200 has a completely different shifter, and doesn't suffer from the same problem as the GL1500.

Cyclemax is out of stock at the moment, I believe.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby tblank » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:19 pm

Thank you sir for your helpful and timely reply. Will have to look into the oil seal issue. Again Many thanks for your service here.
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Re: GL1500 Shifter Brace

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 09, 2014 11:44 am

I can finally do a final update on this review now that I have the shifter installed and experience riding with it.

This past week was the first I got some real seat time on my GL1500, where I was in traffic and doing lots of shifting. The first thing I had to get used to was FINDING the shifter - the combination of the shifter no longer sagging to where it used to be, plus new riding boots without worn soles (I had worn a hole through the soles of my old ones) meant I kept missing the shifter when trying to downshift! That took about five minutes to get used to.

Now that I have some miles on it, I can say that it is a TREMENDOUS difference. The shifter is solid and precise, you can pre-load it accurately, and there is zero slop. What an improvement! I would highly recommend this product for ALL GL1500 owners.


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