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2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:35 pm



I want to preface this review with the fact that I've been a Goldwing owner since 2006. I was very happy with my 2006 Navi and while I thought the Navigation was poorly executed in this version, I was satisfied with the overall quality of the bike. After racking up 125,000 miles on it, I decided I would trade it in on a new 2014.

After riding this new bike 16,000 miles I have to say I'm quite dissatisfied with the 2014. Although the Navigation has come a long way forward, the overall quality of the bike has taken some steps backward. My greatest disappointment was the paint on the '14. I bought the blue one and have found the paint to be very soft and very easily marred and or scratched. The sides of the shelter are completely marred from my riding pants touching it. A bug impacting the forward facing surfaces will mar the paint. A fingernail brushing the trunk next to the lock will scratch the paint. This unacceptable.

The front left brake pads were completely worn out after 16,000 miles. The right brake pads had a couple of thousand miles wear left on them and the rear had several thousand miles wear left on them. I am not a "heavy braker" and use downshifting and equal application of both brake controls to slow or stop. Obviously Honda still has an issue with the Goldwings' brakes.

The final issue is with the heated grips. They worked intermittently soon after I received the bike. I had to wait until they completely quit working before I could get them fixed. Apparently, it's a factory defect with an electrical connector. My bike is still waiting for parts 3 weeks after I dropped it off.

This is not intended as a full review of the 2014 but more of a warning. I regret my purchase and would rather have kept my '06 than plop down $20k on a new 2014. My complaints are being examined by Honda so there have been no resolutions offered as of yet. They may make it up to me and if they do I'll be sure and post an update when it happens.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:44 am

Ok, so maybe I got a lemon. Honda's position is that the brakes wore normally. The paint is what it is (no remedy offered). As a warning to others, I now know that this model with this paint does not have a clear coat. Apparently, certain colors are not given a clear coat. Who knew? Also, the heated grip problem turned out to be an intermittent open in one of the grips itself.

Now, according to my dealer, a wire retainer near my clutch failed and parts of it damaged the clutch. The bike has been in the shop now for just shy of two months. They finally got the part from Japan needed to repair the clutch but then found the oil pump had been damaged as well. Which, in turn, damaged the motor from oil starvation. They tell me the motor will be rebuilt by the end of this week.

Sorry for turning this into a rant but not everything is perfect in the Honda world. Hello lemon-law.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby Hdwing » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:23 pm

I fill your pain I also bought a 2014 Blue Like you said the paint would have been better if they had used a 2.00 can of spray paint from a hardware store!!!!Anything that makes contact leaves scratch.
I wish I had never bought it because of the Paint so far everything else seamed ok until now. The rear brakes have all the sudden gotten spongey I know it shouldn't be that way already because I only have 5,000 miles on it due to only short rides due a hand injury and family illness. All I heard was the same about the Paint Sorry!!!!

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby buztz » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:40 pm

I don't have a 2014, but I do have a blue 2013 audio comfort navi xm abs model and I have never experienced any of the problems that you describe.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:07 am

I'm really glad for you. I'm not sure which models they chose to not put clear coat on. I believe the 2014 black may be one. I do know that your blue is a different color than the 2014 blue.

On the continuing saga of my bike, they got the motor back in the bike but there was another problem with the clutch. I'm awaiting word as to what the problem was and how much longer it will take to get it back. When I do get it back I suspect it will be a "hanger queen" that is, sit in the garage until the Lemon Law claim is resolved.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby themainviking » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:19 am

They have had your bike now for over five months straight??? WOW... just WOW. I would be apoplectic by now. Honda should have offered you a new motorcycle. Then they could have taken yours back to J.A. Pan and company and examined it. They might have discovered everything they did wrong. You might suggest this to them. Or perhaps they have already taken too many back.
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:16 pm

To be fair, the first time they had it for over a month. The second time (this time) it's been going on three months. I'm hoping this will be resolved under my state's lemon law. A claim has been filed.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby IBArider » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:42 am

OK my two cents of thought. It appears that Honda has given up on the "Goldwing Riders" when they moved production to Japan. The largest buyers are located in the USA. Honda has introduced several new models appealing to the "younger rider" but on the Goldwing they just mix matched the 1800 while not upgrading the transmission to a true overdrive 6 speed as they have on the other Honda models. The Goldwing has always been ahead of others since it's introduction in 1975 but now others are starting to move ahead. I will keep my first generation 1800 until Honda welcomes us back as an important customer like we were in the past or I'll look at other brands when the time comes. :)

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:12 pm

Latest update: I got the bike back 85 days after I dropped it off. Rode it home and it seemed okay. Went to move it using the clutch (while in gear with the motor off) and bike wouldn't budge. I've since figured out there's air in the clutch line. Gotta take it back again.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:37 am

Last update:

Honda has offered a settlement which I've decided to accept. I'm just waiting for the paperwork to wrap up and I'll turn the bike in. I have to say the settlement offer was fair (not over-generous, but fair). I've just got to wonder why not settle this when I first contacted the area rep? It seems to me they would have saved a lot of hassle, time and money if they had.

Now, do I get a BMW or take my chances with Honda again? Sure wish there were more options. (No, I'm not fishing for a debate on which is better...just a rhetorical question.)

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby thrasherg » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:28 pm

Congratulations on getting a resolution with Honda, it certainly cost you a lot of lost riding and anguish. I hope the next bike just gets ridden (and not to a dealer for repair!!). Summer is almost here, so enjoy it and best of luck with the next bike, what ever it ends up being!! :D

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:43 am

Mother Honda is the proud owner of a slightly used 2014 GL1800 and I have one less motorcycle in my garage. PITA but I'm glad it's all resolved. A warning to potential buyers. Make absolutely certain that your new bike has a clear coat on it before you buy it. You only have 90 days with Honda to resolve any paint issues.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:43 pm

I hate to hear that Honda may have decided to go cheap on their flagship, the Goldwing.
No clearcoat on a bike considered "top of the line" by many, even non-riders "know" of the Goldwing.
The comfort, performance, reliability and the pride an owner has in "his" Goldwing is something Honda should not take for granted.
Harley, BMW, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki and others would love to build the next "Goldwing" for loyal riders.
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby Fatwing Chris » Thu May 05, 2016 8:04 pm

Part of the issue with the paint is the tree huggers.A lot of vehicles are pretty much being forced to go to water based paint.Honda went to water based paint when production went to Japan from what I've read.

Good thing about the 14 and up is they finally upgraded some gears and forks in the previously sketchy trans.
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby OldZX11Rider » Thu May 05, 2016 8:25 pm

How many tree huggers ride Goldwings?
I hope Honda doesn't bow down to those that only gripe about how someone else does what they can't.

Hmmmmm...did that make any sense to anyone besides me? :lol:
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby maintainer » Fri May 06, 2016 9:25 am

I too bought an 2006 GL 1800 navi new and kept it 4 years and rode it 46000 miles. I agree with your assessment of it, mine was flawless and I did all upgrades and maintenance to it.

Honda has become insensitive, lazy, ignorant, aloof, apathetic, unresponsive (or just choose your own adjective) to Goldwing buyers/riders. They're all true and just sad.
Same overall design with only a few pathetic minor tweeks from 2001 until 2016, who does that? Ridiculous.
In 2006 mine listed for $23K and cut the deal at $21K which I at the time thought was incredibly expensive but was willing to do for the King of tourers. Now they're priced in the upper $20K to near $30K range, and while not as poorly executed or overpriced as a Hardley, they are getting there.

If I get another new tourer, it wouldn't be a Goldwing and probably would be an BMW.

There, rant over.
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby brownlensman » Fri May 06, 2016 9:46 am

I looked really hard at the BMW K1600 as the engineering of it appealed to me. I ended up getting a 2016 Goldwing ABS. Yeah, they haven't changed much of anything on the wing in 16 years but what it is is still preferable to what else is out there. For me, that is. I am so disappointed in the service after the sale and poor customer relations that I came very close to buying a different brand. I've gotten pretty good at servicing my bikes so I'm crossing my fingers that I won't need any warranty service. And I made damn sure it had a clear coat before hand.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 06, 2016 12:10 pm

brownlensman wrote:I looked really hard at the BMW K1600 as the engineering of it appealed to me. I ended up getting a 2016 Goldwing ABS. Yeah, they haven't changed much of anything on the wing in 16 years but what it is is still preferable to what else is out there. For me, that is. I am so disappointed in the service after the sale and poor customer relations that I came very close to buying a different brand. I've gotten pretty good at servicing my bikes so I'm crossing my fingers that I won't need any warranty service. And I made damn sure it had a clear coat before hand.


Those K1600's are really nice pieces of engineering, but I have two main problems with them:

- The massive integration of CANBus. Want to change a light or add something? The bike will complain, because it's not CANBus compliant. Makes it tough to do your own maintenance as well.

- Lots of problems. LOTS. Recalls, failures, there's even a Facebook page dedicated to all the problems and recalls faced by K1600 owners.

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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri May 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Wow! Nearly $30,000 for a new Goldwing? I didn't realize they were getting THAT high. :shock:
Yeah, mine is going on 25 years old and reliability, (compared to a new ' Wing or BMW?) is, ah, different, but at less than $3,000 it will still run the speed limit and haul my old bones comfortably. :lol:
Hmmmm...wish I were going on 25 again. :roll:
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby maintainer » Fri May 06, 2016 7:04 pm

OldZX11Rider wrote:Wow! Nearly $30,000 for a new Goldwing? I didn't realize they were getting THAT high. :shock:
Yeah, mine is going on 25 years old and reliability, (compared to a new ' Wing or BMW?) is, ah, different, but at less than $3,000 it will still run the speed limit and haul my old bones comfortably. :lol:
Hmmmm...wish I were going on 25 again. :roll:




Click Honda link below 4 models available, base MSRP $23999 up to top of the line for $30599.

http://m.powersports.honda.com/model/st ... -wing/2016
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri May 06, 2016 7:44 pm

I just couldn't see myself ever paying even $23,999. :shock:
Even if I won the lottery, I just don't think I could spend that much for a motorcycle. :roll:
A few weeks ago, I asked my wife if we won the lottery, would you get a new car, or the car you want? I had to explain by telling her I'd really like to have a like new 1972 Chevelle SS with the 454 big block.
Now she understood. She wants a red '66 Mustang convertible. She probably wouldn't care if it was a 289 hipo or a 6 popper.
As Goldwings go, I'd be happy with a '86 SEi. I think they're beautiful.
I really like my '94 SE, but the '86 SEi always catches my eye. :D
It may not make any sense to anyone else but that's just the way I am. :roll:
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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby Fatwing Chris » Sat May 07, 2016 8:57 am

OldZX11Rider wrote:How many tree huggers ride Goldwings?
I hope Honda doesn't bow down to those that only gripe about how someone else does what they can't.

Hmmmmm...did that make any sense to anyone besides me? :lol:


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Re: 2014 Goldwing

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat May 07, 2016 7:25 pm

You're right. But with the way things are now "green" is sold as a good thing for everyone, but somewheres in the woodpile, a senator or congressman or another politician is feathering his own nest!


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